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ed17
05-17-04, 10:28 PM
Hey everyone,
i just recieved this as an email and found it very interesting.....



DON'T BE A WIMP AND TAKE THIS CRAP DO SOMETHING NOW!!!!!!!


Dear friends & family,


I hear we are going to hit close to a $1.42 a Litre by the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!
By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $.80 a litre is super cheap. Me too! It is currently .78 to .89 depending on what day it is,for regular unleaded gas in Montreal, Qc. We all know that we're being screwed by the oil companies.

Does everyone remember how they drove up the prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to where they wanted them, claiming there was a shortage of oil. Well, there isn't any shortage now, and the oil is more abundant than it was 35 years ago when the price of a litre of gas was 29 cents!!!


Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at $0.78-$0.85, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.


Heres the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), PETRO CANADA, SHELL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of PETRO CANADA and SHELL buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and Ill explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!


I am sending this note to at least thirty people. If each of you send it
to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message
reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over
THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been
contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!


Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people... Well, lets face it, you just aren't a Mathematician. But I am. so trust me on this one.) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Ill bet you I didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.


PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $0.64 OR LESS RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!!!
PLEASE take a few minutes and pass this on to everyone you know!! If you can't e-mail it to at least ten people, please print out a bunch of copies and hand it out to your family and friends!!

marisa
05-17-04, 10:51 PM
Why would that work considering the little companies buy from the larger ones? LOL

Marisa

Retic chic
05-18-04, 07:47 AM
Back when I was trucking for a living, we had a discussion among ourselves about the price of fuel. We had come up with a plan to not haul anything anywhere. Lock the compound, park the trucks, and say screw it, fuel prices are too high, truck drivers are underpaid, we arent going anywhere.

We figured that between us, we were hauling fuel (haha), meat, bread, milk products, fresh produce, beer, cigarettes, coffee, paper goods, and frozen veggies. We had enough freight to sustain ourselves for over a month if we just stayed put. If we could get all the other drivers and trucking companies to join us, within a week we could grind the country to a halt.

Imagine going to the corner store for groceries and finding them out of bread, milk and meat, not to mention beer, coffee and cigarettes. I think we could have started a riot in no time.

Sunrunner
05-18-04, 08:06 AM
This is a very serious matter it is so hard for the avarage person to make it now a days between insurance and gas prices. I will not shop at shell or petro if I thought that might work, there has to be other ways though. Anyone else on this board have any?

ChokeOnSmoke
05-18-04, 08:25 AM
Retic Chic, that would have been very cruel holding the beer back.

HeatherK
05-18-04, 08:53 AM
Personally I stay away from getting fuel from the non-major gas stations.

Derrick
05-18-04, 09:07 AM
hehe I only drive a company vehicle the rest of the time I ride my bike use the bus or cab or walk :D. I get a chuckle out of coworkers that have vehicles that are costing them well over 1000$ a month between car payment, insurance and gas.

lostwithin
05-18-04, 09:32 AM
marisa,
You got it right, the smaller ones have too buy it from somebody.

Sunrunner ,
Another very good point, I at the moment, walk or hitchhike everywhere, (or bike but its broken at the moment) simply because I had too chose between driving a car, or going too university. Which I think is insane.



I'd say that was a very creative new attempt at the usual chain letter, But if people all used car pools and buses, rather then personal vehicles, that would take a HUGE dent out of the big companies pocket. It wouldn’t matter where you bought the gas, if one car was buying rather then 6, or even if everybody went in pairs, rather then there own car it would cut the gas company’s profits in half. They’d loose money fast, not too mention would hurt the environment too have less cars on the road any way. So it’s like killing 2 birds with one stone.

Jeff_Favelle
05-18-04, 10:16 AM
And the whole crazy part about it is, we're not even seeing the REAL cost of fossil fuel. Even at 2 BUCKS a litre, its still cheap, depending on your perspective. Driving is a luxury, not a right.

daver676
05-18-04, 10:32 AM
Does everyone remember how they drove up the prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to where they wanted them, claiming there was a shortage of oil. Well, there isn't any shortage now, and the oil is more abundant than it was 35 years ago when the price of a litre of gas was 29 cents!!!

Ummm.... NO!! To say there is more oil now then there was 20 years ago is just pure ignorance, not to mention an impossibility.

List your sources of the information, then people may think about taking you more seriously. Don't just cut and paste this e-mail chain letter crap. :rolleyes:

Stop being so gullible.

Invictus
05-18-04, 10:52 AM
Daver, maybe you are the one who needs to examine the ignorance factor. There are more wells being drilled every year than there are well drying up every year - which means more oil is being pulled out of the ground every single year, and it just keeps going up and up. I used to work in the upstream oil & gas sector, and believe me.. when you look at the yearly stats of total boe/d for the entire world every year, it's utterly mind boggling. So how about YOU get the facts before you start calling other people gullible, ok?

marisa
05-18-04, 11:39 AM
I say one of us comes up with a way to run our cars on snake crap.

I'd be able to drive anywhere in this world then!!!! :P

Marisa

Invictus
05-18-04, 12:14 PM
HAHAHA... good idea. I'm sure corn snake poop would make excellent fuel. If not, we should use corn poop as military weapons, and use the energy we put into weapons for our cars instead.

I think we're on to something here......

:D

Cruciform
05-18-04, 12:16 PM
The number of vehicles on the road has been increasing massively as well.

Either way, unless any of you has some hard facts, this is all BS anyway.

Chain letters are just the psychological equivalent of a computer virus. The same people that forward them are the same people who typically get infected.

BoAddict
05-18-04, 01:03 PM
the only solution to the rising fuel prices is an alternative source to cars run on gas , such as hybrids which use fuel cells,there is also natural gas cars which is cheaper but there is fewer stations that sell it.

i dont know much about the corn/ethanol thingy that is an alternative as well hell i dont even know what it is called.

what are we here in Ontario gonna do when dalton imposes another gas tax today at the budget ????

on a side note 3 years ago i was in australia i saw gas prices @ 99.9/L the conversion was 74.9 cdn todays gas prices in queensland australia are nearing a $1.00 /L the $ compares like this now 1.00 CAD
Canada Dollars = 1.04628 AUD
Australia Dollars

why is it the price really hasnt risen in australia? but has here ?
do i hear $1.25 a litre going once going twice .......

Removed_2815
05-18-04, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by BoAddict
such as hybrids which use fuel cells
The so-called "hybrid" cars are gas/electric. They still pedominantly run on octane (gas) but can also store the energy usually lost in braking (a process called regenerative braking) and use this stored electrical energy for acceleration (the process that consumes fuel greatest).
The so-called "fuel cell" cars that are being used in large numbers in Iceland run on electrical energy that is produced during the conversion of hydrogen and oxygen into water.
Just clarifying ;)
Cheers,
Ryan

BoAddict
05-18-04, 01:20 PM
thx ryan i didnt know much about them but i remember the hydrogen thingy now

Cruciform
05-18-04, 02:35 PM
And there were articles published this week about hybrid cars not actually being anywhere close to as efficient as claimed.

Still any improvement is better than none.

Removed_2815
05-18-04, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Cruciform
Still any improvement is better than none.
You're right and I think that's the key. If everyone had a hybird then you could take that little improvement and multply it over and over and that's where we'd see a change.
Plus, if the majority of North Americans would just get their obese butts out for a walk to the store (as opposed to a drive) then, not only will their health improve, emissions will be lowered and there would be more fuel to go around.
I wish people would just stop the needless driving, and don't get me started on SUV's. Do those business types really need that Hummer H2 to navigate the city streets? Pathetic....
Ryan

Siretsap
05-18-04, 02:54 PM
the hybrid is good for city driving, when you have a lot of stops and stop and goes. Once you hit the highway, your car switches to gaz, so the only good side to a hybrid is for someone who works downtown and doesn't have to use the highway too often...

Removed_2815
05-18-04, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Siretsap
the hybrid is good for city driving, when you have a lot of stops and stop and goes. Once you hit the highway, your car switches to gaz, so the only good side to a hybrid is for someone who works downtown and doesn't have to use the highway too often...
Yes, but it's not like it's worse on the highway than any other car (if anything, since hybrids are inherently smaller and lighter, it's better on the highway in terms of gas mileage) and since you don't have to work downtown in order to have to accelerate often, the hybrid is a very good alternative for the environment conscious individual no matter where you drive. It takes very little gas to maintain a speed than to accelerate to that speed, and that's where the hybrid is advantageous - you don't just hit the highway already going 100km/h ;)
Ryan

672
05-18-04, 03:21 PM
Funny how were whining about using a non-renewable natural resource...

Lisa
05-18-04, 04:08 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if point a and point b were closer together...
I commute about 50+k to work, and that's not considered far.

DedEye
05-19-04, 08:44 AM
I spend somewhere in the range of $18-20 usd everyday for my commute. I live in Flint,MI and I commute to Southfield, the whole trip is 56 miles one way! I drive a S10-ZR2 (4WD) that gets about 14 MPG.

And let's be real...If people aren't going to buy any gas today they will simply buy more tomorrow or they bought more last night. We're not just going to walk to work to teach the gas stations a lesson. Gas prices go up every spring/summer, they will fall again when fall comes around.

I am more upset about road construction than anything else. We have two seasons in Michigan; Winter and Road Construction season! They close I-75 north and south to one lane either way....It makes my commute 1hr45min when it only took 1hr in the winter. And they are saying that road construction will go through November!! Road Rage anyone?

DedEye
05-19-04, 08:44 AM
I spend somewhere in the range of $18-20 usd everyday for my commute. I live in Flint,MI and I commute to Southfield, the whole trip is 56 miles one way! I drive a S10-ZR2 (4WD) that gets about 14 MPG.

And let's be real...If people aren't going to buy any gas today they will simply buy more tomorrow or they bought more last night. We're not just going to walk to work to teach the gas stations a lesson. Gas prices go up every spring/summer, they will fall again when fall comes around.

I am more upset about road construction than anything else. We have two seasons in Michigan; Winter and Road Construction season! They close I-75 north and south to one lane either way....It makes my commute 1hr45min when it only took 1hr in the winter. And they are saying that road construction will go through November!! Road Rage anyone?


EDIT: Sorry I hit the submit button twice. LOL I may not be smart but I'm not very smart.

justinO
05-19-04, 11:24 AM
i am sure someone has posted this already, but if not, i hope everyone realizes that this will not work.

90% of companies buy their gas from, guess who, PETROCAN & SHELL! So even if every person in Canada left those two companies empty, they wouldn't even notice.

sorry, but they have us all by the balls.

sapphire_moon
05-19-04, 12:44 PM
I seen something on t.v (I know, it's in the U.S) but these kids (college kids) reworked the engine of a van to make it run on used cooking greese! like at mcdonalds or KFC frying greese and made it from like mass-california and back or something like that, but it was REALLY far. They just kept stoping at fast food places picking up used greese, and when tested for emmisions they said it was cleaner than any gas or gas/hybrid car.

daver676
05-19-04, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by sapphire_moon
I seen something on t.v (I know, it's in the U.S) but these kids (college kids) reworked the engine of a van to make it run on used cooking greese! like at mcdonalds or KFC frying greese and made it from like mass-california and back or something like that, but it was REALLY far. They just kept stoping at fast food places picking up used greese, and when tested for emmisions they said it was cleaner than any gas or gas/hybrid car.

And the exhaust smells like french fries!! No lie!!

Lisa
05-19-04, 05:55 PM
that's the same as biodiesel... you need a diesel engine to do this.