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panther_dude
04-25-04, 11:38 AM
Hello anyone in canada have any nosy be's. I have a female and she really needs a mate. Right now she is 6 months so I want one for at least her 9th month so they can mate, and I dont have to worry bout infertile eggs.
DragnDrop
04-25-04, 11:43 AM
You won't have to worry about infertile eggs is you limit her food intake to something reasonable. Nine months old is a bit on the young side, though people do mate them even younger. I'd let her go until she's a year old, regulate her food in the meantime so she doesn't produce eggs. She'll have a better chance of surviving the egg production and laying process without using up the meager stored resources she'd have at the tender age of 9 months.
Just my opion, people do mate them younger, I'm all for letting the females mature properly first.
kidchameleon
04-25-04, 12:17 PM
wait, so if you feed a female chameleon less, she wont layinfertile eggs?
meow_mix450
04-25-04, 02:48 PM
well what dragndrop is saying is if you dont let her eat as much as she wants she wont lay as much eggs as usual when you let them eat as much, correct me if im wrong, just dont feed as much, when she is gravid, you have to feed her lots and give vitiems, but i dont think hes asking that ha ha, im looking for a female nosy b to breed my 2 year old nosy b male, maybe we can work soemthing out. Where did you get your female?
Meow
meow_mix450
04-25-04, 03:00 PM
can u send me a picture of the female i wanna know how she looks like when shes not gravid
Meow
Collide
04-25-04, 03:15 PM
non gravid
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/ivory3.jpg
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/ivory2.jpg
http://www.chameleonjournals.com/icham/images/Furcifer.pardalis/10.jpg
receptive
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/ivory13.jpg
gravid
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/girl8.jpg
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/girl7.jpg
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/ivory1.jpg
gravid reaction when male is seen and she is very unresponcive
http://www.elev8r.com/chams/girl9.jpg
meow_mix450
04-25-04, 03:17 PM
ha ha thank you so much! your very helpful
Meow
meow_mix450
04-25-04, 03:27 PM
Can you tell if its a female or a male when there 8 to a year old?
will they be old enough to tell from behind its butt?
Meow
Collide
04-25-04, 03:51 PM
I can tell by that age, females have skinny tails and there heads are shaped diferently then the males, they can be sexed very young by some people i think they do it by probing not sure though, but by 6 months there should be no doubt what it is.
Charm_Paradise
04-25-04, 07:14 PM
panther_dude-
Food restriction often dose not cut it in reducing egg production. Keeping the females out of view of a male will help. I have tried food restriction, and have talked to other breeders and its not as simple as one would think. Often it just slows egg production but in the end they produce the same number of eggs (compared to other clutches laid). Just be sure to keep up on the calcium (D3 if needed) if and when egg production comes. Hope this helps!
kidchameleon
04-25-04, 07:58 PM
i have one question, is it like, a definate that a female will lay eggs, even if it doesnt come in contact with a male?
choriona
04-27-04, 07:51 PM
kid - you would think so, but some females may go an entire lifetime without laying. I like to believe that if the environment is at its optimal, the animal will try to reproduce. If the husbandry is just a little off, reproduction may not seem more important than basic survival.
get what i'm saying?
kidchameleon
04-27-04, 08:00 PM
yeah, i think so. but now im just worried about my veiled laying eggs when she gets older. i dont want her to. i dont have the time/room/money to incubate the eggs and raise the babies. and also, i hear its really, really hard on the female after she lays eggs, and i woudlnt want her to become sick and/or die.
meow_mix450
04-27-04, 08:38 PM
yes u are right. there is a way better way, if it has not been near a male lets just say they wont hatch, even she did meet a male, you can freeze the egg so no babys, thats why i suggest males for beginners cause of the egg bound, you should read up on some breeding, it should tell you how to make a nest for teh female to lay eggs. Yes its very hard on the females, after she lays you must watch her for the next 24 hours correct me if im wrong, i read that she needs alot of water and food after.
Meow
Collide
04-27-04, 09:21 PM
Although egg laying is hard on the female it is what they are built to do. if proper conditions are met a female veild can live to 5+ years and thrive. And if you do not want babies dont breed her simple solution.
kidchameleon
04-28-04, 06:54 AM
thanks meowmix, thats a good idea. im gonna do some research about breeding veileds, so i know what the signs are of her getting ready to lay, what do to when/if she lays, and how to care for her afterwards.
i know, i'm not going to breed her. i'm just worried about her laying eggs in the future and possibly becoming ill afterwards.
meow_mix450
04-28-04, 02:08 PM
ya, if you read on it, i think you should be fine, how old are they right now?
Meow
kidchameleon
04-29-04, 06:51 AM
well i only have one female veiled. she is only like 3 months old.
panther_dude
04-29-04, 08:21 PM
I'm really sorry guys but if you wouldnt mind talking bout that else wheres I was asking for help in aqiuring a male not egg laying,thank you but its all good in that area. She eats 5 to 7 small to medium sized crix a day, 5 meal worms twice a week. And the crix are lightly dusted every third feeding. She wont be mating till I beleave she is at a proper weight and size. Probably be anouther 6 months or so.
So anyone knowing where to find male Nosy be in canada please let me know thank you.
Collide
04-29-04, 08:36 PM
I know a place u gan get one fairly young though for about 200 pm me i dont know if they ship ill give u the info
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