Bah.. Moving to Fl..

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

I am moving to Fl.. I was wondering, being I have a Wildlife permit to keep hots, I was curious if I would have to go through being "trained" to keep my hots there or if I could just use my permits as a reimbursement for the needed permits there..
If not, anyone wanna train me? ..Please?

By the way, It'll be the Ocala area.
~Xain

[SCReptiles]

FL will issue a VRL (Venomous Reptile License) to a non-resident. The cost is $100. You will need to be able to document 1000 hours of experience working with them. You will need to do that immediately. If you get the non-resident license it will be a simple transfer to FL when you move. If you wait till you move, they will make you go there the entire process down there before they will permit you. Scott went thru this when he moved from CA. He has all the documents for CA but didn’t get a non-res permit and the state made him re-do his 1000 hours before they would permit him. I have had my non-res permit for about 3 years. I still have my application and all the documentation saved in MS word. I can email that to you. Would be pretty simple to change my info on the app to yours and will give you an idea of what they want as far as proof. Or you can call 850.488.6253 to request you own application.

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Thanks Chuck.
It would great for you to send me your copy my way, get a head start on things. My email is Palustris3@aol.com
Thanks again,
Xain

[cobraman]

"By the way, It'll be the Ocala area."

You are in for a treat... That is Lt. Rick Brown's area. :(

Have fun!

[SCReptiles]

I just emailed them all off to you. let me know if they do not make it thru. Thanks --chuck

[Cruciform]

As a curious bystander, what do they consider proof?

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Chuck, It never made it through.

Who is Lt. Rick Brown's?

[Mustangrde1]

TO: Reptile and Frog Dealers, Collectors, and Interested Persons
FROM: Colonel Julie Jones Director, Division of Law Enforcement
SUBJECT: Reptile and Amphibian Regulations

Individuals (both resident and nonresident) may collect non-protected and non-regulated species of reptiles and amphibians for personal use (on lands on which one has permission)
without special permits or other authorization. Collecting for the purpose of sale, or collecting venomous species, requires licenses/ permits as noted below. This memorandum will provide
information on all protected and regulated species of herptiles in Florida.

Attached is a copy of the rules implementing sections 372.86 through 372.91, Florida Statutes. Below are relevant portions of Rules 68A-25.002 and 68A-25.006, Florida Administrative Code,
as well as portions of other rules relating to the possession and sale of reptiles and frogs in Florida.

In order to possess venomous reptile species, a license is required. The cost of this license is $100.00 per year. If you plan to exhibit the venomous reptiles at any time during the year, you must
post a $1,000 surety bond payable to the Governor of Florida. Please refer to Florida Statutes 372.88. The surety bond must be for a period of not less than one year. You may contact your
Insurance Agent for additional bond information. Please attach the bond to your completed application and return it to us.


In order to sell venomous reptile species and/ or exhibit or sell non-venomous reptiles or amphibians, you must also complete an application for the Exhibition or Sale of Wildlife. The
cost of the license varies depending on the number of specimens. The cost of the license for less than eleven specimens is $5 per year. The cost for 11 or more specimens is $50. Please
refer to the attached application( s).
As provided by Florida Administrative Code 68A-25.002 (15), after July 1, 1990, any person or entity not currently permitted to possess or exhibit venomous reptile species must qualify for a
permit by meeting the following criteria:

1) Demonstrate no less than one year of substantial, practical experience (to consist of no less than 1000 hours) in the care, feeding, handling, and husbandry of the species
for which the permit is sought, or other species within the same biological order, which are substantially similar in size, characteristics, care and nutritional
requirements to the species for which the permit is sought. 1
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For the purposes of demonstrating compliance applicants shall submit documentation of such experience, including: a description of the experience acquired, the dates the experience was obtained, and the specific location( s) where acquired, and references of no less than two individuals having personal
knowledge of your stated experience. Personal reference letters do not need to be authored by venomous reptile permittees. Additional documentation may include records of prior permits for the keeping of venomous reptiles, employment records, or any other competent documentation of the requisite experience.

2) Documented educational experience in zoology or other relevant biological sciences obtained at the college or technical school or above may substitute for up
to six months or 500 hours of the required experience.

(3) Shall not have been convicted of a violation of venomous reptile regulations for three years prior to application for such permit.

4) Must be at least 18 years old at the time of application.

F. A. C. 68A-25.006: Exhibiting and Caging Poisonous or Venomous Reptiles
1) Any person who keeps, possesses, or exhibits poisonous or venomous reptiles shall also comply with Florida Statutes 372.86-91. (Attached).
2) Poisonous reptiles shall be kept enclosed in cages, cases, pits or enclosures of the following specifications:
(a) Cages may be constructed of a variety of materials including: plate glass of at least one-quarter inch thickness, break resistant plastic of similar strength, concrete reinforced
with wire, sheet metal, molded fiberglass, plywood or interlocking lumber that has been treated to be impervious to moisture and is not less than one-half inch in thickness, or
other materials which provide equivalent stability and security against escape and unauthorized intrusion. Cages and doors shall be sealed. The doors of each cage shall
be securely locked to prevent unauthorized intrusion.
(b) A room may contain poisonous reptiles in cages that are not locked provided that such a room is locked to prevent unauthorized intrusion, is inaccessible to unauthorized
personnel, is constructed and maintained as to be escape-proof, and, for commercial facilities, has been inspected and approved as conforming to these rules by FWC
personnel prior to use.
(c) Outdoor open-topped enclosures:
1) For venomous reptile species native to the United States, the floors of outdoor cages shall be of concrete or masonry construction at least two inches in
thickness. Sides shall be of similar construction, at least eight inches in thickness, or strength equivalent, with a minimum height of four feet above the floor of the
enclosure. Outdoor enclosures need not have concrete or masonry flooring if the enclosure meets the following additional specifications:
(a) The enclosure shall have concrete or masonry walls, at least eight inches in thickness, or strength equivalent.
(b) The enclosure shall have footers made of concrete, or strength equivalent, extending not less than three feet below the grade level, outside the
perimeter.
(c) The corners of the enclosure shall be designed or guarded to prevent the escape of reptiles by climbing. 6
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(d) All landscaping of the enclosure shall be arranged to unsure that vegetation or other structures do not allow for the escape of reptiles.

2) Entrance doors shall be kept securely locked on all outdoor enclosures to prevent escape and unauthorized intrusion and the enclosure shall be equipped with
barriers to prevent visitors from falling into enclosures that are constructed below ground level.

3) For venomous reptile species not native to the United States, all outdoor enclosures shall be topped with close-meshed wire or an equivalent barrier to
provide additional security.

[SCReptiles]

Ok man, I broke it down into 3 emails and resent. Let me know. As for proof, for me a sent a detailed letter of my experience and included a reference letter from the direction on the nature center I work at and a reference letter from my partner who keeps snakes with me. I sent pics of me working all the species I applied for.

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Right on. I just got them. Thanks again,
Xain

[SCReptiles]

hope it helps dude!