Sexing A Baby

[GP212]

I was at the pet store today( not one that I was going to before) and they have some babies. The guy there said that they were about 3 months old. They looked great! About 8 inches long I figure. I was thinking that I want to get a female so I asked him about sexing them and he said that it is still too early to tell. Is it?
The reason that I was going for the female was in case we decided down the road to get another. The tank that I have is 100 gallons so I figure I have the room. Plus I have thrre kids who might not be able to "share".

Thanks!!
Glenn

[Pia]

Unfortunately, sexing at this age is nearly impossible. If there are several of them, you can turn them belly side up and compare the tails starting at the base. The tails of males will taper more gradually than the female's and overall will be thicker. Also, males should have slightly larger heads. These differences are subtle and take a practiced eye, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference myself.

[tHeGiNo]

Unfortunately, sexing at this age is nearly impossible. If there are several of them, you can turn them belly side up and compare the tails starting at the base. The tails of males will taper more gradually than the female's and overall will be thicker. Also, males should have slightly larger heads. These differences are subtle and take a practiced eye, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference myself.

Actually, they can be sexed right out of the egg. And if you know what you are doing, this can be done with 100% accuracy. At three months, it is easily identified.

[geckoguy157]

i dunno at 3 months if you can sex them at a 100% acuracy youve got a talent ecspecialy right out of the egg

[tHeGiNo]

I will give you $20.00 for every 3 month old you bring me that I sex wrong :).

[V.hb]

thats interesting..... I would say you would get no more than a 3% accurate guess on the sex of baby beardie..

[tHeGiNo]

LOL! Right out of the egg is exaggerating a little bit, but at three months - definitely.

[V.hb]

how are you doing it at 3 months?? males and females have femoral pores at that age they dont begin to seperate until a later age.. I still wont say its easy to sex that early man.. Maybe some individuals, but not all.

[tHeGiNo]

I'm not asking you to believe me. :)

[V.hb]

iam not saying i do or i dont, just curious what your method is?

[drewlowe]

Sexing at a young age is very hard, except for the trained eye. I know of only one beardie breeders in my area that can sex at 1 month old and have the majority come out right. To do this you would have to have alot of experince with beardies.

Jamie

[ICULIZARD]

We can sex them almost right away......we also offer a free dragon of the customers choice to anyone that we make a mistake with the sex. Hasn't happened yet...... :)

When you are dealing with dragons all day.....it becomes very easy to notice the differences with babies. We don't go by the pores or tail taper etc....we go by the bulges.

ICULIZARD

[tHeGiNo]

:D Megan is the mastermind who taught me.

[Capital Dragons]

Megan is certainly right. A well trained eye can accurately sex babies almost right away. Once you know the subtle differences it is easy. Rob & Vickie Dachiu (the U.S. breeder I represent) have shown me some really neat tricks that I didn’t know about even after all the years I have been sexing babies. But no one can say 100% right out of the egg if a baby is a female. You can say 100% if it is a male because of the hemipenile bulges. However they are sometimes hard to see right out of the egg. Even some of the to U.S. breeders have been wrong from time to time. But offering an exchange policy is a great way for people to get the sex they are looking for. But sometimes people find it hard to send back a dragon after a few months that they have raised and bonded with just because it’s not what sex they need.

I like to sell babies at around 10-12 weeks because you have a good idea of color potential and sex is 100% guarantied. Food costs are more to keep them that long but you are selling a well started babies

[ICULIZARD]

That's why we offer an additional dragon of their choice, not an exchange. I realize it can be hard for people to give up a dragon that they have grown attached to.

ICULIZARD
:)

[sexxie_cucumber]

Woohoo I'm certainly buying a dragon from you next time. (no not because the additional dragon, it's because I know you care about the customer)

And, you have wonderful colorings to your and you live in canada!

[Capital Dragons]

Megan is a great person to deal with. I have been over to he place a few times now to sell her some dragons and even to buy a few and you can tell she truly loves her dragons. She keeps things very clean also. I highly recommend buying a dragon from Megan over a pet store any day. Especially with a sex granite like that!

[ICULIZARD]

Thanks :)

[Beardeddragon]

If there is no way to get a "trained eye" as u put it to look at a baby for u how can u no for sure? is a vet. sexing worth it?

[tHeGiNo]

Maybe I am a little confused here, but vets do have the same eyes that anyone else has right? How would they be able to see it with a "trained eye" but not anyone else? Or do you mean figure out surgically? But then, I cannot see why someone would do all of that just to determine the sex of a dragon.

[varanus69]

Everything i have heard about you meagan has been so possitive that i wished i lived closer to you so i could buy some nice beardies.i live in alberta now (origanally from ontario) so it is not a smart investment asfar as shipping goes for the average dragon but maybe some day i will get a very high end pair off of you. after my 2.4 adults bring in some serious money to put towards a great one.

[beardiedragon]

My experience is that hemipene bulges are the ONLY sure way to determine if it is a male and if the BD is plump and healthy should be apparent between 1-2 months. I have seen even experienced breeders make mistakes on more than one occasion when trying to get a female. Some males don’t show there hemipenes until they are much older. So once you see a hemipene, you know it's a boy but if you don’t see one it may not necessarily be a girl.

[Dragon_Slave]

Don't vets use probing to tell the sex of the dragon? How young can a dragon be probed?

[ICULIZARD]

Thanks Varanus....it's always nice to hear that we have a good reputation. We do ship, but it is only worth it when you are getting high-colour morphs.

Look forward to dealing with you in the future though :)

Megan
ICULIZARD

[sexxie_cucumber]

If I post 2 pics of my BD's rear-ends (lol) can someone help me sex them?

[Capital Dragons]

Certainly. Just make sure you get a good shot with their tails in the air like a “Scorpion”. What we need to see is if there is any bulges just past the vent at the base of the tail.:)

[Capital Dragons]

Here is what we need to see. And it might help you out as well. The male is on the bottom
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/3499female1-med.jpg http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/512/3499maleb-med.jpg

[damzookeeper]

Yup, I agree with Tim and Megan, I've been sexing my babies for the last 2 years without a mistake so far, although I will not guarentee females because some develope later than others.
But last year out of the 8 female holdbacks I had all 8 were female. Maybe it was luck, maybe not.
Here is a picture of one of my younger males.

http://www.reptilerascals.com/bd2001-11-08malejuviedragon.jpg

and I have more pictures here.
www.reptilerascals.com/beardeddragonsexing.html

[sexxie_cucumber]

I can't upload my pic i cant figure it out. I need help sexing them so if you have msn add me sexy_cucumber16@hotmail.com I'll send you a couple pics and see if ya can help me out. Thanks.