some general help.

[UpscaleBoas]

was at the ralph davis talk and know i'm starting to really get into the royal python frame of mind.

For years i've been boa obsested and thats all i knew and wanted...now that the boa collection has grown i want to learn morea bout royal's

Could you guys help me about basic price inquiries.

how much are?

platnums
pieds
albinos
genetric striped
clown
and anyothers you can think of?

also what do hets of each go for?

thanks for the help

[crazyboy]

why dont you look here: http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/currently_available/rdr_captives/pythons/2002-biglist.asp

[Bristen]

Originally posted by crazyboy
why dont you look here: http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/currently_available/rdr_captives/pythons/2002-biglist.asp

I love it when you're looking for a price and you just see "inquire".. LOL! That means it's not quite in my ball game just yet :-)... yes, pun intended heh

[Corey Woods]

how much are?

platnums - Lesser Plattys $30,000 US (Platnums $70-100K).....Ralph won't sell anymore of these just yet.

pieds 8-15K for males, 6.5-12K for females depending on the amount of white

albinos 2K-2.5K US

genetric striped 20-25K US

clown 7-10K US

Hets are generally 1/4-1/3 of the price of the homozygous animal. So, if an albino is $3000 expect to pay $1000 for a pair of hets. This doesn't always work but it's a guideline.

[MouseKilla]

I wonder how long it's going to take before the first BP morphs fall in price enough for an average guy to own one.

I guess if you're the guy breeding them you hope it won't be for a long time (and who can blame ya?) but for someone who doesn't have any ambitions to turn his collection into a business all of the morphs mentioned are way out of reach. Only people who have a lot of disposable income can afford to shell out the $3 000 it costs for the commonest of the morphs without committing to a breeding project to recover the costs.

In other words, it seems BP morphs will likely be a "breeders only" game for a long time. I'm not sure whether that's good or bad... I guess it depends on whether you are selling these rare creatures or staring enviously at them at the shows knowing you can't ever have one.

[Bristen]

Originally posted by Corey Woods
how much are?

platnums - Lesser Plattys $30,000 US (Platnums $70-100K).....Ralph won't sell anymore of these just yet.

pieds 8-15K for males, 6.5-12K for females depending on the amount of white

albinos 2K-2.5K US

genetric striped 20-25K US

clown 7-10K US

Hets are generally 1/4-1/3 of the price of the homozygous animal. So, if an albino is $3000 expect to pay $1000 for a pair of hets. This doesn't always work but it's a guideline.

Corey, thanks for reply to this thread.. some of us really have no clue what some of these high-end morphs go for.. albino and pieds are the only ones I would of had an idea... maybe you could also help me understand why the higher-end stuff always has the "inquire" price.. why not post a "ball park" number? I'm sure there's a reason for that practice, but I have no clue what that might be..?

Thanks,
Bristen.

[MouseKilla]

You didn't ask me but the reason is the same as the reason why they don't paint the price of a Ferrari on the windshield: If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

[BoidKeeper]

I wonder how long it's going to take before the first BP morphs fall in price enough for an average guy to own one.
In Canada, a long long time. Not a lot of people working with them and they have small clutchs relative to other snakes.
Cheers,
Trevor

[MouseKilla]

I think you're probably right Trevor but there may be some hope for the little guy yet.

It's true that not a lot of people are able to invest in a homozygous animal but think about all the pairs of hets and possible hets floating around out there. It appears to me that BP hets are some of the hottest commodities in the industry. Is it possible that we're only a few breeding seasons away from a sudden flood of BP morphs when all of those hets are ultimately bred out?

Maybe the small clutch sizes will limit this effect but should enough morphs hatch out in the same year their market value would take an instant punch in the gut. How much and how fast the price falls will depend on how many of these creatures come into the market in a given season.

I could be imagining the concept of a "het bubble effect", only the breeders at the top of the game could give you an idea how many hets are really out there waiting to create a spike in the supply of homozygous animals and of course their heterozygous clutch mates.

[marisa]

I hope prices DON'T fall. But not from a breeding aspect. I have only a few ball pythons so as for me personally I do not care about it from that angle.

But I would hate to be in a hobby where nothing is oer 100 bucks. Then every joe and jill could have whatever they wanted. As it is now, it takes years to work up to certain animals in certain price ranges. And I think that adds interest and ambition to the hobby. If everyone could afford a ferrari, they wouldn't be as sweet anymore. they would just be "the average drivers" car.

Marisa