ravens/crows

[manville]

Does anyone here know if Ravens or Crows are legal in Canada and where one could be purchased. Any comments would be appreciated.

[marisa]

I am not sure about legalities here but my grandfather in California has a pet Raven who lives in his house. The bird washed up to his porch during a heavy rainfal as a tiny chick. He has had it ever since. It eats leftovers and other stuff. The one downfall is that the bird is EXTREMELY smart and that can become an issue.

Marisa

[Cruciform]

It would rock to have a raven or crow for a pet. They're bright and somewhat trainable. They'll also steal from you like mad and get into things a child couldn't figure out :)

[gonesnakee]

I have a friend how has a Crow as a pet. Wicked smart bird. Legal, well not really. He tried to deal with Fish & Game in Alberta on multiple occassions & they more or less told him to leave them alone as they couldn't be bothered with him or his bird as they were too busy with poachers to worry about the "legalities" of his pet. If they don't recv. an official complaint about him & the bird they don't want to see or hear about it. I love how our Govt. agencies choose to deal with borderline issues such as this. Ignore them & they might just go away LOL. He may have it at the spring TARAS show (has in past) but most likely not as it is a contraversial issue & it doesn't need to be debated at shows. Mark

[Scales Zoo]

That crow is cool - it's amazing how smart crows and magpies are.

Both are legal to keep as pets in Saskatchewan, without any kind of permit I beleive - and in the past there have been people around here who have taught them how to talk (after splitting their tounge, which is also a controversial issue among bird people)

Ryan

[Vanan]

Corvid are illegal to own in BC as they are considered wildlife. I've tried that before (corvid-ophile here). Might sound funny to you Manville but I'm looking into getting a common mynah! lol! Yea those pesky birds in Singapore!

Maybe this spring may prove fruitful and I may end up with a magpie or raven fledgling! :D

[TheRedDragon]

I would LOVE to have a Raven as a pet, those have to be my absolute favourite birds. Too bad that Invictus won't let me have one. :p

[marisa]

Splitting the tongue is not needed. It's more of a wives tale. There are plently of people with talking crows that have never split the tongue.

Marisa

[TheRedDragon]

Good thing at that...I could never do that to an animal.

[Cruciform]

I wondered about the tongue thing. My grandfather told me that it was necessary, but I wasn't sure whether to believe him or not...

After all, when we were little as he drove us through the road into the nearby park, he'd tell us to whistle out the windows to call rabbits out.

Darn grandparents :)

[manville]

Originally posted by Vanan
Corvid are illegal to own in BC as they are considered wildlife. I've tried that before (corvid-ophile here). Might sound funny to you Manville but I'm looking into getting a common mynah! lol! Yea those pesky birds in Singapore!

Maybe this spring may prove fruitful and I may end up with a magpie or raven fledgling! :D

How do you know about those mynahs from Singapore? Have you lived there before or are you from there?

[Vanan]

lol! Guess you forgot. Yes I was born and raised a Singaporean. Moved here 5.5yrs ago. Lived in Yishun! ;)

[sapphire_moon]

Ya, and what is a large group of ravens/crows called? I am pretty sure it's called a Murder. :)


When we lived in New Hampshire and we would walk home at night. THOUSANDS (there had to be like 2-3 thousand) crows would follow us :eek: it was really creepy.

I had never seen that many before and when I looked at the trees I was wondering about the "strange black leaves" until one flew off, and the rest followed!

One night an owl attacked a raven. Bad move, the entire group went after the owl! But still, creepy enough, a few hundred stayed and followed us to our apartment building.

Very smart birds, just watch out and keep anything shiny away from them.

[Jeff Hathaway]

In Ontario, ravens require a permit, crows do not.

Jeff Hathaway
Sciensational Sssnakes!!

[manville]

Yeah i probably forgot. I am from there too and just went back there for a visit on spring. Have you seen how much changes they have made to singapore? Amazing.

[Cruciform]

One of the towns near London (Chatham I think) was having a crow problem. So a bounty was put up. All the crows move to London, about 100,000 of them.
When I lived on Proudfoot Lane, I'd walk through the wooded trail to take a shortcut to Wonderland Road. There was literally a crow on every branch, and they were totally silent. It was like that every day. I'd always start thinking about Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" :) That would have been bloody.

[Wuntu Menny]

Here's a little morsel:

One of the traits used to guage intelligence in animals is their ability/willingness to engage in playful activity.

A number of years ago, a photog from National Geo managed to capture a sequence of a group of ravens repeatedly climbing a short slope on a snow covered mountain. Once they reached the top, they would flip over on their backs and slide upside down and backward down the snowy incline only to walk back up and do it again!

I love ravens, even their belching call is music to my ears!

WM

[Vanan]

I love ravens, even their belching call is music to my ears!

Second that. All reminds me of a Bathory song "The Ravens".

Manville, I haven't been back for about 4yrs now. I can only imagine what it must be like now. Hope there are still some nice "wild" spots for the herps to hang out at, asides from Mandai Zoo.

[manville]

I have just been to the zoo, night safari, underwater world, dolphin show, bird park, and the reptile park.

[ChokeOnSmoke]

I've raised a crow and blue jay that I found injured. The crow seemed much more intelligent or at least more willing to accept human company.

[WRX]

A gathering of Raven's is also referred to as an "Unkindness"

How cool is that? :)

My parents in Winnipeg have a couple acres just outside of town. The Magpies and Crows so cool to watch. They outsmart the cats and squirrels NP.

The only issue with keeping a crow / raven as a pet would be the mess they would make. Seed eating birds = small craps. Scrap / fruit eating = projectile evacuating of the lower intestine.:mad:

Bill T

[gonesnakee]

WRX it can't be any worse than keeping a large Colubrid. You should see the "piles" left by adult Blue Beauties or Eastern Indigos, yum yum LOL Mark

[WRX]

hahaha..Same diff my friend:)

I had a Taiwan Beauty that was a little, shall we say, messy!

..But @ school in FL, I kept a 6ft Eastern Indigo which I released after a few months. He was the smartest, coolest snake I have ever kept, but boy, could he ever spread his fecal love around the tank!!!!:rolleyes:

Great snakes though!

Bill T