Feeder Frogs?

[Cruciform]

I was wondering if anyone collects frog eggs to raise tadpoles/frogs to feed their garters or other snakes.

I thought about collecting the adult frogs, but the thought that I might collect some parasites along with them put me off that idea.

Is there any risk in raising some feeder frogs from eggs?

[Linds]

I wouldn't recommend it simply for conservation reasons...

[Matt_K]

I believe taking wild frogs is illegal now too, well, in high numbers anyway.. I think there's actually a limit to the amount you can have in your pocession and you have to have a valid fishing license.. Maybe someone else could shed some light on that.. I know there was a guy last year that got bustes for taking a couple frog species and turtles from a lake..

[Cruciform]

Darn. The office pond has several thousand frogs in it in the summer. It barely had any the year I started but one of the coworkers wives brought in a bucket full of frogs eggs from her aunts swimming pool. Next thing you know there's a hundred little frogs underfoot at every step. :)

If I'm lucky I might be able to snap pics of the bullfrogs and the two massive turtles that pop up sometimes.

There's lots of small turtles, shy little guys, that sun on the opposite bank, but there's two monsters that only come up occasionally. Usually they only get spotted from the second floor window. I've never seen one surface while we were outside. I have no idea where they go otherwise. The muskrat family has burrowed out a lot of earth from under the banks, so they might take shelter there. They're awfully hard to miss when they're at the surface though.

With the distortion of the water I'm not sure how much it affects size, but I'd hazard a guess that the larger turtle is around 18 to 20 inchs from front of the shell to the back. The shell appears brownish under the water, but I can't tell what kind of texture it has.

Hopefully the kids who were taking the small turtles last year didn't catch or hurt the big ones. We told them to stop taking the turtles but they just came on the weekends when no one was at work.

[Linds]

I believe you can take bullfrogs from the wild with a fishing license, but I think it is only four or something. Possibly ten, I can't remember, I know it's one of those.

[C.m.pyrrhus]

I have bred Grey Tree frogs for garter snakes before. Nice thing is they make a ton of young for feeders. It only took a couple pairs to get a few hundred young. Besides WC frogs, you can always buy some CB tree frogs and raise/breed them also. Fairly simple actually. I found that tree frogs very simple to breed. If I ever had large numbers of garters again I would certainly breed them.

Tadpoles are great for the smaller neonates, and the young that make it to adulthood of course work out to be fed of to adults. Even one pair of frogs can produce many many young...

[CONCEPT03]

why destroy beautiful frogs to feed your snakes when their is millions of other food sources out their

[Dani33]

Can't you get frogs from some bait stores? I recall my dad purchasing some for bait. I guess that their would always be a worry of parasites. It may be something to look into though. I can ask him the next time I speak to him. You can use them as bait I believe for predatory fish like pike and bass. Not 100% though.

[Wizwise2000]

"Holders of valid Fishing Licences may catch and retain bullfrogs for personal use from July 21 - Oct. 15; the possession limit is 10. No firearm other than a longbow or crossbow may be used to take bullfrogs. A person may hunt bullfrogs at night without a firearm and may shine a light for that purpose.

Bullfrogs may not be taken in the City of Ottawa (formerly the Regional Municipality of Ottawa- Carleton), the Counties of Prescott and Russell, Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry, Leeds and Grenville, Lanark, Frontenac, Lennox and Addington, Prince Edward, Northumberland, Peterborough, the City of Kawartha Lakes, or in the County of Hastings south of, and including, the townships of Marmora and Lake, Tudor and Cashel, Elzevir and Grimsthorpe."

That's from the ministry of natural resources page.

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/fishing/bull.html

I catch bullfrogs every year for fishing purposes and never have any problems.

Hope this helps! :)
Shane

[Cruciform]

Concept: Because garters eat frogs, along with leeches, minnows, earthworms, etc.

If you have problems with one type of animal eating another as part of the survival process, then pet ownership is probably not for you.

[YummyCdnMale]

you knowwwwwwwwwwww!!! first of all all this i can't feed a snake a frog or a live mouse or a this or a that!!!! unless you yourself is a vegitarian i can't see you not feeding a poor little froggy to your snake AND I AM FRENCH!!!!!!! And wiswise is totaly acurate to the T Except one thing! Hastings area mainly (rice lake) you can be arrested for taking frogs out of the lake due to there exstensive bass spawning programs they have being the bass primary source of food.. But you can purchase frogs at most bait stores for about 6.00 per 10 not 12 hope it helps only will if your canadian because the u.s laws may be alot different then canadian ones

P.S No matter what you take out of any lake river streem etc you need a valid fishing license and the fish and game don't take kindly to poachers lets all remember that!!! If your in Canada pick up the zones rules and restrictions pamplet it's FREE

[Cruciform]

I wonder how the fish and game laws apply to a man-made pond.

[Jayson]

I believe there is a claus for farmers taking from their own farm land but i am not 100 % sure as all my Info is from 1998

[GreenNeutron]

Well if you are a vegetarian and you have problems feeding animals other animals, you should just get a uro or one of those monkey tailed skinks. Or an iguana if you don't mind the possibility of your animal eventually taking a chunk of meat out of you. lol.
And as for feeder frogs I agree, you should probably just raise your own from some CB ones, that would be a more reliable supply. There are several species that come fairly cheap. But yeah, if it's not a natural body of water they shouldn't really complain that much right? I mean if you introduced koi into an office pond would you need a fishing liscense to get them out? :-\

[Cruciform]

I think the only critters not introduced were the muskrats who appeared about 2 1/2 years ago and the original bullfrogs.

There's goldfish, bass, crayfish, at least two species of turtles, several species of frogs (from little peepers to the huge bullfrogs ), and who knows what else :)

There used to be a lot of goldfish over 10 inches long, but during a thaw two winters ago they all came up to the surface for the sunshine. That night there was a flash freeze and every last one of the big ones were frozen in the ice :( They're making a slow comeback though. And the ones with dark spots are becoming more common as the heron that stops by picks off the bright orange ones :)

[YummyCdnMale]

Laws do apply to your own pond depends what your doing with it. After all you can't throw a croc in there can you?...

[Kyle Barker]

one good thing about the bulls on the left coast....as many as you like/can.