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dfr
04-01-04, 03:12 PM
` This Anaconda has been crawling on this cat since the Anaconda was two feet long. And, nobody makes that 20 pound Tomcat do anything he doesn't want to do.
` I hope you enjoy the pix.
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sketchy4
04-01-04, 07:57 PM
lol cute pics

Bartman
04-01-04, 08:34 PM
thats a little dangerous imo, with the cat...he can easily mistaken that for food..but thats just me, ah well..

nice conda btw

crazykeeper
04-01-04, 08:36 PM
Awesome anaconda,s are those NERDs line?,look to be pretty tame,way to go!

dfr
04-01-04, 09:39 PM
Yup, that Anaconda is from NERD, almost six years ago.

Actually the Anaconda will not mistake a cat for its food.

If he was starving, perhaps he would choose to tackle the cat.

He is fat from the winter, however.

Besides, he only eats food that's put in his mouth.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/Zoo_p_Wheezer_lazy_snake_compressed.jpg

Bartman
04-01-04, 09:46 PM
oh, ok my bad..lol..I was a little worried haha.
thats another amazing pic! show more :D

HeatherK
04-01-04, 09:53 PM
Great pictures, thanks :D

Matt_K
04-01-04, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by dfr
Yup, that Anaconda is from NERD, almost six years ago.

Actually the Anaconda will not mistake a cat for its food.

If he was starving, perhaps he would choose to tackle the cat.

Will you post the pics of it when it happens?? It's just a matter of time...

Scales Zoo
04-01-04, 10:59 PM
Yeah, those are cute pictures, but as matt said, it is just a matter of time, the yellow is getting bigger - and you will not want to look at those pictures after an accident happnens.

I'm betting on the 'Conda! Just for the record.

Nice Cat.

Ryan

Bartman
04-01-04, 11:01 PM
so then my guess was dead on...I really hope that cats does ok!!!!!!!

Removed_2815
04-02-04, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Matt_K
Will you post the pics of it when it happens?? It's just a matter of time...
Seriously, it's going to happen. It will be very unfortunate because people should know better, but who are we to interject our opinion :rolleyes:
Post the pics when it does happen so we can show them to the next guy....
R

dfr
04-06-04, 08:25 PM
.` It's really interesting to me that none of you who expressed concern about the cat's safety expressed concern about the little girl's safety.
` Why is that?
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http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/Dscf0261.jpg

` That old Tomcat is almost 18, and way too tough and gristly to be feeding to Anacondas. He, and the Anaconda are loved pets. If I felt that I was not in control of the situation, they wouldn't be allowed together.
` Notice that, if there is a problem, it will be literally in my lap.
` That Anaconda grew up in my pocket , or around my neck, in a pet store. He swam with the Discus and Angelfish, and was handled by dozens of people every day.
` He got fed too much, because he will take food from the hand, without striking or constricting, and everybody wanted to see that, so he got way too big. He sold lots of snakes for me.
` He, and the cat, do not behave typically, for their species. I certainly wouldn't throw just any Anaconda, and cat, together.
` That old cat has been playing with Boids for years. Like the little girl, he is never with a snake, unsupervised.
` Besides all that, if I were going to feed cats to the snake, I would feed more nutritious cats, like this one.
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/Zoo_mam_cat.jpg

Matt
04-06-04, 09:53 PM
i dont think anyone expressed concern for the girl because the snake is still too small to pose much of a threat to her.
When the snake reaches 10-11 feet, Im sure you would receive plenty of concern for the girl.

dfr
04-06-04, 10:01 PM
He is 10 feet long, now. Almost 30 pounds. Unusually large for a male Yellow Anaconda.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/Dscf0526.jpg

C.m.pyrrhus
04-06-04, 10:15 PM
It's really interesting to me that none of you who expressed concern about the cat's safety expressed concern about the little girl's safety.
` Why is that?

That old Tomcat is almost 18, and way too tough and gristly to be feeding to Anacondas

Mammals are prime food for large predators much like your conda is. I highly doubt that the little girl will ever be mistaken for food, at this time.

There are many occurrences where a burm, retic, conda or other large snake have eaten cats, dogs and even goats. How is a "Tomcat" any different? Seriously, that cat stands no chance when that snake is big and hungry enough to eat the darn thing. Even the most docile and "human" of snakes have bit their owners and eaten another 'close animal' family member. That cat will put up a fight no doubt, and lets hope so. After all, it is a Tomcat. Still.....I see it as a very risky move. Your conda is not a human, as much as you think it may act as one.

JD@reptiles
04-06-04, 10:25 PM
sorry, but i wouldn't let an anaconda interact with a cat...

Bartman
04-06-04, 10:51 PM
Yea, personally i dont see the point..why take the chance..you'll feel pretty dumb if it happens..remember even if its really used to being handled like you said its no puppy, and acts purely on instinct

dfr
04-07-04, 12:34 AM
` I disagree with that. Certainly, Boids are not very brainy creatures. They're pretty simple, in fact. Especially in the intelligence department.
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` However, " ...acts purely on instinct." I don't see it.
` They have rudimentary emotions, fear and anger, at least. As far as thought, I believe they have a small amount of latitude in their behavior. They just don't have the vast range of choices that a more intelligent animal has.
` When they don't feel stressed, they can, and do, make simple decisions about their behavior. If they are pushed, they must fall back on the pre-programmed response that instinct has developed through natural selection.
` I don't go for the attitude of, " If you've seen one giant constrictor's behavior, you've seen 'em all. " That kind of old fashioned thinking can be applied to almost any creature, or group of them.
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` Here's a picture of a behavioral choice. The two Anacondas are in the middle of a 7 week courtship. They were at it constantly, I'm surprised they didn't kill each other. Yet they would stop to see what I was doing with the camera. They also stopped to take food. I doubt they would look for a meal, while mating in their natural habitat.
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http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/1-5-3-1052421132.jpg

ChristinaM
04-07-04, 08:08 AM
aside from the debate onhand, which I'm not touching as I am not in a position to say anything, not having alot of snake experience. Although I have to say that the poster seems pretty educated/experienced and does not sound like a flukey who would try something just for the heck of it It's obvious he knows his snake :) Whether the snake will attack the cat at some point, I really do not know.

But, I have to say, Gorgeous pics. Especially that last one showing the irridescence. Beautiful snakes.

Ummm, gotta ask, not the first cat, the second one....how much does that sucker weigh??? I thought my cat ( RIP) at 13lbs was a porker LOL.

HerpHannah
04-07-04, 08:43 AM
Hahahahahahahaha I love the piccys!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom went spastic!!! Awwwwww the love the annacondas
Happy Herpin'
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dfr
04-07-04, 01:39 PM
` I saw that picture of that poor fat cat somewhere on the internet, a while back. I just had to save it. It's funny, but basically sad. Pathos, maybe?
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T.O-SK8TER
04-07-04, 01:59 PM
I would never trust my burm around my cat, my cat actually goes in my room and watches my snake in his exzibit all the time. My burm always hisses at her then she will run away!

AlexPan
04-07-04, 02:09 PM
Dfr, is it only me, or is the snake eating a legless rodent lol?

AlexPan
04-07-04, 02:10 PM
By the way beutyfull snake!

dfr
04-07-04, 03:14 PM
` Never noticed that before but it does look like the rat has no legs. That pic is from a couple of yers ago. At that time I was getting one pounders from a breeder who also had hairless rats. Those things gave me the creeps.
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/dfr49/12703cx.jpg

aRoCk/.
04-09-04, 02:03 AM
yo man just do what ever u want there ur pets.

Mitch 1.0
04-15-04, 06:40 PM
u got great pics. each one is better than the last. dont keep boids, so im not gonna comment of the cat issue, but i must ask,
why do u keep doing ````` after each sentence ????

Lrptls
04-15-04, 06:57 PM
dfr i think your condas are absolutely beautiful. the kitty is cute too. i agree with you totally about boids intelligence and behaviors. one time you can put a boa and a python together and they might stress each other out. put another boa and another python together and maybe they'll bask right next to each other. i think its all in the snake and his personality. now i realise this is a whole different thing. this is a warm blooded animal with fur that could possibly serve as a tastey meal. but if that snake only eats whats put in his mouth (which is so cute by the way!!!) then i feel like the cat is safe. i would still feel a little worried because perhaps hes hungrier than i thought hed be or he would like to try something new. but dfr knows his pets better than we do so why not let him do what he wants, no one is geting hurt.

dfr
04-15-04, 09:58 PM
` Thank you, Michelle, I like your pix, too. That particular Anaconda is a very unusual individual. I have other Anacondas, and other Boids, which I wouldn't let near any other animal, warm blooded, or cold blooded! I also have a 10+ foot Boa constrictor who uses the cat for a heater.
` The snakes which I allow to interact with other animals started that behavior themselves, as babies. At that time they couldn't have harmed the cat, and behavior patterns were established then.
` Even though not highly intelligent, Boids must see another critter as prey, or as a threat, before they attack. The truth is that many Boids have such a strong feeding response that they will see almost any other creature of suitable size as prey. Some will even kill prey then find out they cannot eat it. Others are not in the habit of being secure enough to tolerate other animals.
` When I find one that has the right personality, I try to reinforce it. Still, that does not mean that I trust them completely. The interaction is only allowed when the snake is not hungry, and in a calm mood. Supervision is constant, and contact is for a limited time, only. There must be no stress to either animal. Just to me.


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