Ripleys believe it or not!?

[Sunrunner]

Ok I just watched the show there is 2 guys competing on how many scorpions they can fit in their mouths! (idiots) Now they got aprox 36 each but the one guy got stung pretty bad and his face swelled up right in front of the camera! Sick!
I don't know to much about scorpions but I believe these ones are called Arazona(sp?) Bark scorpions? Does anyone know anything about these? I was just wondering what type of potency the venom?
Thanks
Kim

[brad2004]

hey i gotta see that

[Sunrunner]

It was just on it was sick :)

[Matt_K]

Here's some info for you Kim :) http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/opa/horizons/2000/fall/pg21.htm

[NewLineReptile]

the venom is not really anything to worrie about More less like a Bee sting

Brandon

[Sunrunner]

Well they were worried about this guy he face doubled in like 2 seconds:P

And thanks for the link Matt :)

[brad2004]

they better have that on again tonight i got to see that.

[daver676]

I saw that a while back. The guy who got sick probably weighed 120 lbs soaking wet. The other guys who was fine was easily over 200. Probably why he didn't get AS sick.

[Sunrunner]

Ya but it still looked like it hurt like hell but what did he expect stuffing 35 scorpions in his mouth??? can we say "dumb ***" :)

[west hill herp]

He looked like he was in real trouble. He appeared to be having asthma like symptoms in the ambulince. Every time I see somone do a dumba$$ stunt like that one I always wounder when one will go wrong, well I gess it did last night he's lucky to be alive I can only wounder what he whent through it sure looked like he was losing his airway why would anyone risk there life to be on TV

[daver676]

Originally posted by Sunrunner
Ya but it still looked like it hurt like hell but what did he expect stuffing 35 scorpions in his mouth??? can we say "dumb ***" :)

Nope. but we can say dumbass!! :p

[Removed_2815]

Originally posted by west hill herp
He appeared to be having asthma like symptoms in the ambulince.
Yep, it's called anaphylaxis, or anaphylactic shock (and your ability to breathe is certainly compromised). The venom potency is really irrelevant if you have a hyperactive immune system (the foreign protein is the only concern). Just ask Ken (Invictus), who would likely have big problems too if stung by a scorpion's telson....
R

[Sunrunner]

See the thing I was wondering was he said he tried it a week before and got stung aprox 10 time but didnt mention and bad effects fromit other than pain could the reaction be a result from still having some of the venom in his body still? and it was definatly anaphylactic shock, I am alergic to bee's and have had that happen to myself it sucks you think your gona die :P

[Pixie]

Allergies can be a bit funny, you don't necessarily have a bad reaction the FIRST time you are exposed to an "allergen" but generally, it comes the SECOND and further times you are exposed.

The first time, the body is just realizing that it is allergic and prepares a response for the next "attack" of the allergen.

So it is very plausible that this person had been stung at an earlier time with little reaction and then the next time he was stung it cause anaphylactic shock.

Some people can react the first time they come in contact with an allergen but majoritarily, the worst reactions come from subsequent exposures.

Pixie

[MouseKilla]

Whatever the potency of the venom it seems to me that if this tool survived it wasn't quite potent enough.

[Stockwell]

LOL, agreed....Another thing people... It's TV...Don't believe everything you see, its hollywood...
I've seen people look worse than that just after "SEEING" a spider
I'm sure they sexed up the whole thing just for the WOW factor.

I actually think they should have swallowed them. It would have been slightly more interesting, but not much

[Sunrunner]

eesh but his eyes swelled shut right infront of the camera!!!

[gonesnakee]

I was watching it & then they had those 2 idiots getting ready & went to commericial. Too bad I switched channels DOH! I totally would have enjoyed watching buddy suffer, as neither he or his buddy seemed too worried about causing suffering to the scorps. Too bad Ripley's have actually lowered themselves to "Fear Factor's" level. Are their reatings really that bad that they need to do so? SAD really, Mark
P.S. did they show the Albino Alligator in that show & if so is the footage worth watching the show for? :confused:

[Removed_2815]

Originally posted by Pixie
Some people can react the first time they come in contact with an allergen but majoritarily, the worst reactions come from subsequent exposures.

Entirely correct.

Originally posted by MouseKilla
Whatever the potency of the venom it seems to me that if this tool survived it wasn't quite potent enough.

This is true too.....:)

R

[Gregg M]

Hey Kim,
The Arizona bark scorpion (C. exilicauda) can and has caused human fatalities.........
Usually only in very young, old or people with certain health conditions.......... Also an alergic reaction can kill.........
It is alot more potent than a bee sting....... Whoever said that, really does not know how hot they are.......
They were once considered to be the most toxic scorpion in the US........ But futher studies have shown that C. vittatus ( texas bark scorpion) is much more toxic.......
Put it this way, if they make an antivenin for it, it can be considered a medically significant sting.........
I have been stung well into the triple digets by both species and I can tell you first hand that C. vittatus is way worse but both are bad........ Scorpion venom for the most part does not cause any real swelling........
Maybe alittle at the immediate sting site but usually not much further than that........ Scorpion venom acts on the pain receptors........ Scorpion venom is not used to break down it food.........
The venoms soul perpose is to kill it prey and to ward off attackers........ Maybe tomorrow I will post an LD50 on these two species......
Also the scorps were really not in danger as long as the guy did not bite down on them or swallow them......... I am sure the scorps were actually quite comfortable being in a dark place......LOL
Gregg

[Sunrunner]

Hey thanks for responding Gregg :) I am very interested in this topic, I have little experience with it though. How many times have you been stung??What is it that you do that puts you in that position?
Thanks again :)
Kim

[Gregg M]

I put them in my mouth for T.V........LOL...... No I am just joking.......I breed them...... Putting them in containers to shipped out..... Tank maintainance........ I can have anywhere from 500 to 2000 scorpions at a time........ When you deal with that many, stings are unavoidable........ I dont have an exact number of times I have been stung but I lost count somewhere in the 200s....... But that is over a 10 year period........

[Yve]

hmmm.....I think handling a scorp would cause it stress...and popping it in your mouth with 30 other scorps. would cause stress as well..if not more. I'm glad the guy got stung AND had a reaction...maybe it'll stop other fools from doing such things...somehow I doubt it though......

[Gregg M]

I was in no way implying it was right to put them in your mouth.....LOL....... I was just saying that the conditions in side the mouth are not much different than that of what they would hide out in, in the wild....... I was half joking in that post.....LOL

[RaVeNo888o]

i saw that too. each scorpion probably stung him several times, thats alot of stings :S

the albino alligator was pretty cool, although it was just a short scene, it did look pretty awesome, almost pake looking :p

[Yve]

i know you were kidding about that Gregg!lol...I was just commenting on the idea of putting scorps in one's mouth..generally speaking:)....and I don't feel bad for those that get stung in the process:p

[Sunrunner]

do you have a favorite Gregg?

[Big_V]

I saw that Ripleys too. I was laughing my head off at how stupid those two guys were. That one guy looked like he was gonna die at one point. Never seen a face go so red before. But what do you expect when your stupid enough to do that. Its amazing what ppl will do for fame.
Cheers, Ryan

[Gregg M]

I like the C. exilicauda but my favorites are the thicktailed species ( parabuthus ).......... Hot little guys...... Oh and you have my favorite avatar so far........LOL;)

[Sunrunner]

lol thanks :) smooth talkin ppl on this site :)