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Matt_K
02-27-04, 01:15 AM
Just received this in my email a few minutes ago, and decided to pass it along ( i know there are a few wrestling fans here ).

Jake "The Snake" Roberts appeared in court a few
days ago on charges of animal cruelty. It is alleged he
starved a Burmese python between August and
September of last year. He posted bond but will have
to reappear before magistrates again on March 11.
Roberts, who currently resides in Hertfordshire England,
denies any wrong doing.

Mason
02-27-04, 01:17 AM
huhuhuhuhuhaha. England

morph
02-27-04, 01:18 AM
how the hell do you starve a snake for two months?

kevyn
02-27-04, 02:08 AM
I'm with you. I've never heard of a healthy burm that starved in 2 months.

BOAS_N_PYTHONS
02-27-04, 02:17 AM
I used to watch that REAL wrestling way back in the day with him, never enjoyed seeing him throw or toss his burms across the ring out of there bags, from there on I think it cruelty no matter what.

Cya...

Tony

Invictus
02-27-04, 07:35 AM
Ugh... I guess I'm next, because our balls haven't eaten since November. Lock me up! *sigh*

djc3674
02-27-04, 07:52 AM
LOL..I hear that! My BP's last meal was in September!

I better clear that up..by "last" I mean, last meal before his yearly fast. He will resume eating in April or May. (just incase any animal cruelty police are browsing the site!)

JimmyDavid
02-27-04, 10:38 AM
I guess the whole story is fake because they even mention the burm's name was "damien". Now, Damien is no longer used by Jake and, in fact, Damien was a retic. Some years ago they arranged a plot where Earthquake was suposed to squash Damien (all make believe, of couse). From that moment on, Jake got another big snake "Lucifer". I don't know if that's the snake they are talking about.
Those were good old times...i lived in Toronto back then.

SerpentLust
02-27-04, 10:43 AM
Uh oh...I better delete all my posts about my Spotted not eating since November. *hides behind Invictus*

Sunrunner
02-27-04, 11:02 AM
I used to watch it as well back when Jake the snake was still wrestling, I dont think what he did was cruel ..... stupid but not cruel. I didnt know him personally but from what I saw it always looked like he kept his animals fed always looked good and fat and I can not imagine it would have be too friendly if it was neglected or abused as he had it around alot of people with no bites or outward aggression, and I will go on and say like everyone else how do you starve a burm in 2 months?
Hopefully it will be resolved ans these ppl educated unfortunatly it is funny untill the people from the animal police knock on your door for the same thing.
Just my 2 cents :)

Great info Matt :)
Nice new Avatar too :medsly:

Matt_K
02-27-04, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by JimmyDavid
I guess the whole story is fake because they even mention the burm's name was "damien". Now, Damien is no longer used by Jake and, in fact, Damien was a retic. Some years ago they arranged a plot where Earthquake was suposed to squash Damien (all make believe, of couse). From that moment on, Jake got another big snake "Lucifer". I don't know if that's the snake they are talking about.
Those were good old times...i lived in Toronto back then.

Perhaps you could send me the story you got where they mention the name 'Damien'.. If this Burms name IS Damien, is it not possible that he could have just named a new snake 'Damien'??

Also, for as far back as i can remember, the only LARGE constrictor Jake Roberts ever used was a Burm, i don't remember him ever bringing a Retic into the ring.. Perhaps we can get Chuck to post on this topic, im sure he will know if Jake ever used a Retic.. (I could be wrong, but im sure it was always a Burm)

mykee
02-27-04, 11:27 AM
Well, it's good to see that Jake is in court for something OTHER than drug posession. Good on 'im. Hope he's cleaning himself up for a return to the WWE....

Sunrunner
02-27-04, 11:30 AM
I think that it was only burms... but I agree with Matt Chuck would know best he told me once but i cant remember.

kevyn
02-27-04, 11:40 AM
Well I must admit I am still a huge wrastlin' fan. Jake was one of my favourites (and still is next to Undertaker). I don't like the idea of throwing snakes around either, and that's because I know how timid they are (for the most part). Damien was a burm and so was Lucifer. If I remember correctly, the original Damien (and this is going back to when he first showed up in the old WWF) was a Boa Constrictor. He must have upgraded to a burm when the checks came in more regularily. The only other snakes I remember him bringing to the ring was a big albino cobra of some sort. Can't be sure, I was pretty young at the time. It bit the Macho Man.

I read an interview alittle while ago on Jake. He's weird, in and out of recovery all the time. Not that that's a bad thing, but his attitude towards it seems bad. He hates WWE, and seems to have a big resentment against Vince, so I doubt we'll see him there again. He owns a wrestling school now in England.

Hamster of Borg
02-27-04, 12:23 PM
Jake has had several burms over the years, he had a really cool one with a lot of red in its patterning at one point. He had an albino for a while. I've seen him posing for pictures with a large retic, but I never saw him bring it to the ring. I don't recall him ever having a boa, almost every news article written on him during the 80s incorrectly referred to his burms as boas.

The cobra was a nice touch... have to give it to Macho Man. What other wrestler has taken a bite from a cobra for the business? :)

Ham

Matt_K
02-27-04, 01:05 PM
The boa in question belonged to Alice Cooper.. If you remember back in the 80's Alice Cooper made an appearence on one of the shows and had his Boa with him, it's name was Damien, it was also used for 'The Snake Pit'..

MouseKilla
02-27-04, 04:11 PM
LOL! Jake the Snake... I'm dying here!LOL!!

I sure don't remember any cobra but I was pretty young in those days (as, I would argue, all pro-wrassling fans should be... but anyway). But forget the snakes, how about the greazy mullet and molester moustache? hahaha! Complimented by the standard lycra pants...

I always thought the snake(s) looked cool, he may have played a part in my early interest in snakes but when he dumped the snake out of the bag it was always disappointing that the snake didn't proceed to consume the downed opponent, or even bite or constrict him. Maybe my sense of bloodlust was advanced for my age but I always wanted the snake to finish the guy off somehow.

kevyn
02-27-04, 11:24 PM
I still think that right around when he first came in to WWF he was working with a boa. Round about the time he had his first major feud with Ricky The Dragon Steamboat. Now that's going back a few years.

Derrick
02-27-04, 11:36 PM
I'm wondering if it doesnt mean that the snake died of starvation between aug-sept not that it wasnt fed for 2 months?? If it just means that it didnt eat thats stupid.

JimmyDavid
02-28-04, 01:18 PM
Just to clarify: The original Damien (if ever there was another) was a retic. Before, Jake didn't use to refer to his snakes by any particular name, it was only after he had a feud with this guy - Bad News Brown ,wich had pet rats, that Jake threw his (then) famous words : You and your rats are only prey for the snake! You wanna fear something?! fear DAMIEN...
From there Jake started to use mostly burms. He had feuds with Earthquake, Rick Martel and later, the Undertaker. His snake was now named Lucifer and was played by one (or more) burm(s). I have all this on tape, trust me...
Matt, i can assure you that "Damien" was a retic. I have magazines from that time with pics of Jake holding the snake and it being refered to as Damien.
Another thing, i'm with Sunrunner. Jake was a pionner with snakes and, in many ways, helped to create the herp craze. I don't think he treated snakes that bad...

Sunrunner
02-28-04, 02:54 PM
I had forgot about the cobra that jake had, as well I do know that Bret Hart was terrified of it :P Geez i wish I has a better memory, Uh Helllo Chuck where are you??? You have all the details for us to correct this whole thing :P :)

JimmyDavid
02-28-04, 03:11 PM
By the way, Sunrunner (off topic, now) i have searched like mad for that neat pic of a nile's cage but i couldn't find it. Sorry, i had to give up.

Matt_K
02-28-04, 03:17 PM
JimmyDavid, i'm still curious as to where in that article the name 'Damien' was mentioned though, that was what i was asking you for..

Originally posted by JimmyDavid
I guess the whole story is fake because they even mention the burm's name was "damien".

I only ask, because if you have another article, i would like to read it..

JimmyDavid
02-28-04, 03:23 PM
I didn't read the actual article in question, Matt. But i knew of the whole story because it's being mentioned in other net forums. Kingsnake has it on discussion, for example.

munchy
02-28-04, 06:04 PM
"He must have upgraded to a burm when the checks came in more regularily."

or just kept buying a new one every couple months every time one would stress out and die...

munchy
02-28-04, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Hamster of Borg
The cobra was a nice touch... have to give it to Macho Man. What other wrestler has taken a bite from a cobra for the business? :)

Ham

pro wrestling is hurting. i cant believe i was ever a fan.:( however i do remember seeing macho man getting bitten by the venomoid. gotta admit that was crazy. :cool:

Sunrunner
02-28-04, 09:31 PM
Wrestling is hurting? It is more popular than ever! I admit they have to get a little low and dirty at times but come on wrestling is the best :P Wrestlemania 20 is just around the corner and it will be the biggest and best yet!!!! I cant wait March 14 BABY!!!! Chris benoit is gona kick ***!!!! Also Eddie is going to remain the latin king :) There are going to be alot of great matches :) Goldburg vs Brock not sure who will win that one though but Stone Cold is going to referee the match!
I highly reccomend watching it :)

Who do you all think will win?

:)

kevyn
02-29-04, 02:16 AM
I know what's going to happen in alot of the matches. Seriously. If you want I can tell you.

sleddergirl
02-29-04, 12:08 PM
I'm more of a UFC fan myself..............;)

Sunrunner
02-29-04, 01:13 PM
How do you know exactaly? Kevyn? I have a general idea but no one knows for sure ....... Unless you have an inside scoooooooooop :)

kevyn
02-29-04, 04:04 PM
Ya I have an inside scoope. The WWE has been known to change the booking of their matches the day of the PPV. But I have most of the current plans for WMXX right now. The big matches anyway. I know what the plan is for the Triple Threat, Eddie/Angle, Brock/Goldberg, and I know that Foley/Orton will end up a tagmatch. That may come to light tomorrow on Raw. Foley will have a surprise partner make a return to Raw tomorrow.

JimmyDavid
02-29-04, 04:27 PM
Kevyn, you're the man. Now, can you fix me up with the loto numbers for next week?

kevyn
02-29-04, 05:11 PM
No sorry just the results of wrestling PPVs and on Tuesday or Wednesday I can tell you what happens on Smackdown on Thursdays.

Sunrunner
02-29-04, 10:28 PM
Ya I know the matches but who's gona win? :) Who is going to watch it? it will be a big event.

kevyn
03-01-04, 02:14 AM
Ya I can tell you who is planned to win the matches as of right now, but do you want me to? As I said WWE has been known to change the booking of their matches the day of PPV, so what I know now is who they are currently planning on winning. The only match I can't see them changing at the last minute is Brock/Goldberg. It has to end one way and one way only. The only thing I'm not sure of yet is why Steve Austin is envolved, but I do have some info on that as well. I will tell you that it is confirmed that Mick Foley's partner at WMXX will be on Raw tomorrow to reform an old tag team. If you smell what I'm cooking. Let me know if you want spoilers.

munchy
03-01-04, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by sleddergirl
I'm more of a UFC fan myself..............;)
its ok...K1 is better. :D;)

Matt_K
03-01-04, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by kevyn
Ya I can tell you who is planned to win the matches as of right now, but do you want me to? As I said WWE has been known to change the booking of their matches the day of PPV, so what I know now is who they are currently planning on winning. The only match I can't see them changing at the last minute is Brock/Goldberg. It has to end one way and one way only. The only thing I'm not sure of yet is why Steve Austin is envolved, but I do have some info on that as well. I will tell you that it is confirmed that Mick Foley's partner at WMXX will be on Raw tomorrow to reform an old tag team. If you smell what I'm cooking. Let me know if you want spoilers.

Scott Stiener already confirmed all of this on a talk show..

kevyn
03-01-04, 12:24 PM
He did, but I also knew about it before he confirmed it. Atlanta has been heavily promoting the return that Stiener was talking about. Like I said though, I am aware of the WWE's current plans for the outcome of some of the WMXX matches. Let me know if you want to know.

Sunrunner
03-01-04, 12:57 PM
What talk show was Stiener on? Damn it i missed it!

JimmyDavid
03-01-04, 01:24 PM
Hummmmm....you're mad because you missed Steiner on t.v. ?!?
I wonder, would you be THAT worried about missing a Ric Flair interview? I think not, hahahaha.

I know what you mean, Sunrunner. I wouldn't like to miss TRISH on t.v. ;)


Hoola if you hear me.

Sunrunner
03-01-04, 02:01 PM
LOL rick Flair is always the same :P spitting vien popping maniac, I only watch now to see when he will have a stroke :) Did anyone buy the playboy mag of sable and tori?

JimmyDavid
03-01-04, 02:16 PM
WHAT!!! THERE'S A PLAYBOY MAG WITH THEM OUT THERE AND NOONE TOLD ME. ...damn

operation_sssss
03-01-04, 02:24 PM
Good call munchy, lol K1 rocks, has there been any more news for when Tyson is guna fight Bob Sapp???