Very interesting ebay item that actually sold!

[BoidKeeper]

Long read but if you were ever an x-files fan then it's worth taking the time.

Hunted Win Box (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3701347648&item=3701347648)

Trevor

[sapphire_moon]

x-files nothing, I don't know much of any jewish religion but I try to study up on different religions and it looks like a freakin portable alter table of some sort to me!

edit:

after reading it and reading what was inside the "cabinet" I think that it was obviously a "Evil" or "bad" alter. Locks of hair the most common thing used when doing a "hex" or "bad spell" personal items and such were the next common thing to use.
And I do believe alot of it is still in practice today.
Regardless of which religion it is/was from things like this can cause real problems. And make real marks on physical human body.

This is why we NEVER buy used furiniture/appliances (washer, dryer, refridgerator etc...) of any kind (unless bought new by a friend/relative and given to us).

Like I said, I don't believe it's a religious thing, when a spirit is evil it don't care if you belive in the Holy Trinity or a Welsh God.

[Derrick]

cool ****. Real or not thats a great story thier buying, a deal at twice the price.

[daver676]

Pffff....

Gullibility is a wonderful thing.....for a seller.

[sapphire_moon]

Gullible? I have personally been violently pushed back on my bed and almost chocked to death by "gullibility". I have had bruises on my body from "gullibility". Don't always say something isn't true just because you can't see it, or you haven't experienced it.

[MouseKilla]

Carol Anne, Carol Anne, don't go into the light Carol Anne...

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Wow, that is some truly scary ****!!! True or not, its scary. And to tell you the truth, things like that are about the only thing that scare me cause you cant get rid of them. I'd rather try snowboarding off a 100ft cliff and not land it than get something like that. I know people will go through alot of trouble to do something like that but jeez. Actually, it has just come back to my mind, when i was younger(7 or 8) I would have dreams. I would be lying in my bed in my room. my room was wrapped in chainlink fence and there would be a jungle and war zone all around me. War gurus would come and beat me up or shoot me. I dont know why i had these dreams(probably just cause i was young, lol) but I could not and still cant relate it to anything. Also, a year or two ago, I used to have dreams of high speed trains rushing straight at me. These happened, always between 5:00PM and 5:00AM and i wasnt always sleeping. Besides the train things i havent had a nightmare for probably 3-4 years. Kind of strange. Thats funny it actually sold. If it goes up for sale again, people will probably start to wonder.

Chris

[BoidKeeper]

Carol Anne, Carol Anne, don't go into the light Carol Anne...
LMAOF!
Trevor

[gonesnakee]

Holy scary Batman! The most scary part is the old women hag that everyone sees. I watched a show just recently where an old hag women was appearing in peoples dreams & would choke them & beat them. This would happen with others in the room watching helplessly as the victim was abused from beyond. The witnesses saw what appeared to be an invisible being literally strangling etc. the victim right in front of them as they watched helpless. This "hag" had numerous references to it through out the history of the area, somewhere in England I think, & had been messing with people for centuries. I think they tied it all back to some old witch back in the 16th or 17th century. The amazing part was all these people had such similar violent experiences of this hag holding them down & choking them, leaving bruises cuts & scrapes as physical evidence to the assaults. She, the hag, would sometimes appear with another evil spirit who would try to force itself sexually apon victims as well holding them down on their bellies trying to rape them. The funny thing is the more they invesigated the more people that came out with similar horrifing experiences. The more stories they heard the more they all started sounding the same. I have heard other tales of other evil spirits trying to rape people etc. as well leaving behind actual physical evidence of their actions. I'm not too religous myself, but I do beleive their are things at work in this world that we don't know or understand & probably never will. I beleive that life has its balances & for every good force at work that there is an equally powerful force of evil to balance it out. People mock what they can't or refuse to understand. I myself have a hard time believing things without scientific proof, but these evil beings don't nessicarily follow the laws of nature or man now do they. People can believe what they want, but there is some extreme evil lurking out there & until someone experiences it personally they will never relate. We who sit back & mock these people should consider ourselves lucky that we have never been exposed to such evil & hopefully never will be. Just because it is beyond our pitiful grasps of reality, doesn't mean that this evil doesn't exist. Anyhow they should have buried it with her as she requested. This old woman was probably saving us all from some evil she had learned to contain, only to have it released upon others by fools. Mark

[Cruciform]

Chris,
That would actually be kind of interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a game related to this sale as well. Buy it, add to the story, and put it up for sale again.

There's writing games like that where you add to the story and pass it on. Increasing the interest of the prcoess by tying it to a tangible item is a cool idea.

[sapphire_moon]

ya ha ha, laugh it up.

It's not so funny when you nearly die from something you can't see, yet there are bruises around your neck.

Ha ha, so ****in funny.

[Bartman]

this is jokes :p
**** like this makes me laugh...as scared as i am of the idea of ghosts/spirits, i just cant bring my self to believe that they torment people...i dunno, i think its stupid, but im deffinetly NOT buying that!!!!

[Bartman]

Im gonna ask my dad what that rock says...and if i can zoom in well, i wanna see what the back of the box says...ill post when i get a translation

[sapphire_moon]

believe it or not it happens. And you can belive me or not.

(I'm sorry if my earlier post offended anyone. I just got extremly offended and felt like I was being laughed at)

[SerpentLust]

I think that it was obviously a "Evil" or "bad" alter. Locks of hair the most common thing used when doing a "hex" or "bad spell" personal items and such were the next common thing to use.

On the contrary, not all "evil", "bad", etc altars used hair and other personal items. I can give you many Altar variations that use blood and aren't bad. It all depends on the practicioner, not the tools. Tools are just a channel. I know many reputable Pagan practicioners who use blood and hair because that's what feels right to them. They could be doing healing prayers.

Using something physical from a person gives the practicioner something to focus on, whether it's hair, a photo, blood, etc.

sapphire_moon, many Pagans experience just what you keep getting defensive about. Everyone has their different beliefs and until things happen to a person individually, they will stick to their beliefs until they die, don't take offence to anyone saying it's a hoax or cool or funny. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Jenn

[sapphire_moon]

I didn't say ALL. And I also know that locks of hair, and personal items are used in other (good) ways as well, as well as blood and other bodily liquids are used in healing prayers, or good spells.

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I know not everyone believes it.

This is just the first time I've ever had it thrown in my face. Or just been out right laughed at, so of course I got overly defensive. I'll just try to skip over this thread until it's gone.

[Kurzix]

Don;t love spells, and spells to make someone successful also "require" personal things?

and as for blood, in the Old Testament God required blood sacrifices of the Jews. The blood of the animal was to be spilled on an alter....think about that some time

Just my 2 cents

[SerpentLust]

*grins* However Jay (Kurzix) it again depends on the religions belief of what evil is. Even something like Wicca VS. Pagan, Wicca has a strict rule that manipulation is evil, anything manipulating another person is bad. Whereas Paganism is alot more liberal *grins*

But yes, you are very right

And sapphire_moon, I know what it's like. When I told my experiences and beliefs to the boyfriend that I just broke off with for the first time. He laughed in my face and said that I was an idiot.

Jenn

[sapphire_moon]

actually spells for personal gain are not "supposed" to be good.

Some pagans believe that if you make someone do something against their will (as in a love spell) then it will come back to you 3 fold (or three times worse) and some believe it will come back 10 fold.

I personally have never really made an opinon on the whole sacrifice thing. It can be used in a bad way or a good way.

I also don't belive in the "Old Testament", So I don't belive in anything written in the "Old Testament".


Edit:

Every book I have read has said that "paganisim" is an umbrella term ecompassing all earth based worship.
Where both wicca, stregheria, witch craft, and whatever ones you can think of are all placed as "pagan"

[mykee]

True or not, that story simply by itself and the paraphenalia to go with it is eery. If he spent as much time as he did composing that story, kudos to him, scared my colon clean.
As fot the truth behind it, I consider myslef an intelligent person, and to slough off the idea that there are no such things as spirits, trapped souls, etc. would be plain old ignorant. Just because they cannot be seen, does not mean that they do not exist. I've never had an experience, but I'm open to it, mind you not open enough to have bid on the box...

[SerpentLust]

Hehe and so as I said, again, all a matter of personal opinion. Some pagans believe in the threefold law, or to yank the one out of Wiccan practice, "An It Harm None, Do As Ye Will"

And then there are others, like myself, who believe that you make your own Karma. My personal rede would be "You don't harm me, I won't harm you" LOL

Jenn

[Scales Zoo]

Um, this could very easily turn into a religious debate the way it is going, lets try and steer it away from that please, so it doesn't get removed.

What I'm wondering, is how many of these might have this guy sold. Sure, it might be the real deal, but he made 280 u.s off of this one, could be a brilliant way of selling old junk, I wish I'd have thought of it first.

If anyone wants an evil and posessed pair of second hand cross country skis, I've got some for sale.

Ryan

[mykee]

LOL.

[Lisa]

ryan, just cause you didn't think of it doesn't mean you can't use it.

I've seen lots of haunted paintings and photos on ebay though usually I don't see much in the way of something this extreme in the way of bad luck often. Even rarer are items of good luck.

[sapphire_moon]

actually unless someone else brings other religions into it, any form of paganisim is not a "legally" recognized religion. So technicaly and legally it's not a religion.
Atleast here, it is becoming more accepted, but it's not recognized as a real religion

[mykee]

Sapphire, they are belief systems, whether they are 'legal' or not is moot. It is not the governments place to comment on religion, or vice versa, they have and should remain completely dichotomous.

[Gregg M]

BOOOOOOOO!!!!!! LOL....... I cant see why people are afraid of the dead......... Its the living you need to watch out for....... True paganism is a good religion....... What do you think American Indians, Egyptians. Incans, Aztecs and Celtics were???? Paganism is a real religion...... Infact all other religions are based on paganism......... It is the oldest religion in the world practiced by the most ancient people.......

[Cruciform]

I thought the oldest one was Materialism :)

[Mason]

So, this board has gone spiritual, .

Well.

I believe it. I don't know why people would pay to have that **** in their posetion. Unless you had a monitored house, That would be a good reality show.

Nevermind.

[mykee]

Maybe there's a Dictionary inside...

[Gary D.]

LOL this is nothing new. Just do a search for "ghost in a jar". It pretty much started the whole selling "haunted" items on ebay and sold for a ludicrous sum$$$$ And has spawned some hillarious parodies, including my own "ghost in a bar".

It's pretty much a guaranteed sale on ebay if you can spin a good enough yarn, add a bit of realism and with a spooky picture of an object or two with some unknown writing scrawled on it and a liberal dose plagerism from Friday the Thirteenth: the series. There's always some occult guru willing to drop a couple of dollars on it.

[tai_pan1]

I went to ebay and located the buyer. I sent him an email about the box yesterday. Since then, my son fell down the stairs (he says he was pushed) last night, and I fell down the stairs this morning. I thought I stepped on something, but when I recovered, there was nothing there. We've lived in this house for two years and no one has ever fallen down the stairs. I don't want to know anymore about that box.

[shaggy135]

I wrote the buyer an email too. Nothing has happened to me but I did get a reply. Here is what he wrote:

"Hello Shaggy,
Let me report that the box is no hoax. It proves to be a post WWII Jewish shrine of sorts dealing with spirits. Considering the horrible events that have occurred this past weekend, I believe the Dibbuk or whatever it you call it, is real. Something has to give, and I am not sure yet what will happen - the box may need to have a timeout at a paranormal research center. The jasmine and cat urine smells have invaded by home - those are the least of my worries right now. All those near the box have taken a beating, so I am having to move it. Problem is no one I know wants it in their basement, nor do I really. I can't believe that since the box sold last week 97,000 people have checked out the eBay listing. Thank goodness not near that many have written, but those numbers are growing.

Right now it is boxed and stored. Hopefully it will just rest while I consider what comes next. I am not exactly sure. I collect items all the time. I am pretty generous some items I give to Museums, other items I hold onto for visual satisfaction. Many ancient artifacts I own have had odd things occur in the acquisition or after the fact. I have never felt threatened by these items; however, this one I have yet to know if it is safe or a threat. More bad than good seems to be occurring. Everyday I learn more about the box's past. All the stories check out. Sadly, the previous owners seem to have additional problems. Maybe the bulk of the bad problems has stayed. It's early in yet. I would like to have the box available for people to see since there seems to be so much interest. The Dibbuk Box on tour - just a joke. The latest is that it appears the marble piece that is in the box that says Shalom- Peace could be four pieces from broken headstones. A Jewish Rabbi had me re-examine the piece and I agree with him it looks like broken tombstones. The Jewish faith believes the spirit resides within the tombstone. More on this later. I'll try to keep you posted.
Jason"

I don't know what to believe. It is very interesting though.

[gonesnakee]

The plot thickens... Mark

[Siretsap]

I think if this thing was real, then there would already be media coverage on it...

This is just like people who say they have field crops in their back yeards... And those who say they have been ubducted...

I believe the mind is the strongest tool human's have. Believe in those things and you will always be convindcing yourself of more and more...

Anyhow, till I talk personally with a spirit, I will be more down to earth and believe what I can touch, see and know is there.

[Scales Zoo]

One of us should have bought the box, or we could have all chipped in $5. We could have sent it around to all ssnakess.com members, and see if anything happened.

All I know is, since I made the joke about the cross country skis, Sarge has had a lot of bad gas. Smells like something dead.

Weird.

Ryan

[Gary D.]

ROTFLMFAO... But be glad it doesn't smell like cat urine and jasmine.

[Scales Zoo]

I just got my computer back running after that last post, honest!

I'm spending the night in the bomb shelter.

Ryan