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Cruciform
01-24-04, 08:44 PM
Hi all,
I've been wanting to get into raising and breeding for years, but have just been waiting to have my own house to do so. Since that seems to be right around the corner, I'm totally pumped about building a nice collection of frogs, snakes, and other amazing critters.
Right now, all I have for snakes are a male and female garter that I took in after a coworker discovered them in the atrium of our office. They are fierce little hunters as you can see at the link below :)
http://www.cruciform.ca/video/garterfeed.avi
They love to torment the cats by stretching out vertically against the wall of the habitat while the cats press themselves against the opposite side, frantically trying to reach through the glass for their prey.
They were quite the horny couple after I took them in, so if any little ones turn up in the near future I'll post the availablility here. They're great starter snakes.
sapphire_moon
01-24-04, 10:51 PM
Don't mean to sound rude, just a question, but you took snakes that were perfectly capable of living in the wild (that happened to make it into your place of work) and made them your pets?
Why?
Anyways, Welcome to snakes! The best (IMHO!) herp forum on the net. Got tons of great people to help you with any questions you may have!!!
Cruciform
01-25-04, 12:40 AM
Firstly, they weren't in the wild. They were in the vegetation INSIDE our offices. An office that has dozens of computers in it. Ever see a snake that's been electrocuted after climbing into a power supply for warmth? It's not pretty.
http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/archive/photo92p.htm
There was freezing rain coming down outside at the time I found them. By visiting my site, you can see the date of discovery was in November.
One person tried to release one of the snakes outside but he returned the next day. There was no safe harbor for them outside.
So anyway, I don't mean to be rude, but why would you keep ANY reptile in captivity? Unless they have genetic flaws that make them susceptible to predators (albinism, etc.) they should be able to function in the wild? I see you have more than one...
These snakes will be returning to the wild when the weather is suitable. If they have babies I'll be selfish and keep a few. I also intend to raise other pet reptiles, but I don't plan to sound hypocritical about it.
Thanks! :)
North Star
01-25-04, 03:06 AM
Sorry, but I disagree with the "NATURALIST". Where do they think their snakes came from? "ORIGINALLY"--the parents were taken from the wild for breeders. If you are taking "wild caught", at least you know you have "pure" bloodlines!
I just started with corns, and quite a few--especially with "Okeetee", breed with "wild caught" because they know they have a true color and true bloodline to breed!!!
sapphire_moon
01-25-04, 12:39 PM
I did not know that the snakes kept returning. And as I said I did not mean to sound mean, or rude. And I do apologize.
North Star:
Of course I know all "pet" snakes originated from h WC animals. The same as any domesticated animal.
I do not agree with taking animals from the wild to keep them as pets (unless it is to add new blood, or for species protection programs).
I do not agree with taking animals that are readily available in the market and just getting WC ones.
As long as the snake you are looking for like the okeetee, is readily available from pure lines (as long as you are willing to pay the little extra cash for them) then people shouldn't use WC as pets.
But this is ONLY MY OPINION.
North Star:
Welcome to ssnakess.com! As I said to Cruciform this is the best place on the net and the people are generaly friendly. If you have any questions on any snakes most people are willing to help.
:)
Regardless, welcome to the site.
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