View Full Version : I found Salamandra today :) !
AlexPan
01-20-04, 06:13 PM
Just thought i'l share this photoe with every 1. Found this Salamandra today morning brot it home to make some pic and relised it at the exact same spot i got it. I do not know mutch about Salamandras but was wandering is this a baby or an adult?
AlexPan
01-20-04, 06:22 PM
[/img]C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\My Documents\My Pictures\Salamandra\Picture 012.jpg[/img]
Hope thise warks never tryed to attach pictures before.
Removed_2815
01-20-04, 06:50 PM
I am not from BC but it looks like the Ensatina (Ensatina eschscholtzii) to me. You can identify the Ensatina by the presence of both a constriction at the base of the tail and five toes on the hind feet. They are usually 13-16 cm in total length so the one you found is likely a full grown adult.
Also, there are a couple problems with your second post: a) the first image tag must be [img] and then the last one must include the 'slash'
b) if that picture is under 25 kb then you can attach it like the first one, if it is larger than 25 kb you have to upload it to your photo account (you cannot directly link to pics on your hard drive that are bigger than 25 kb).
Cheers,
R
AlexPan
01-20-04, 08:37 PM
kool thanks RMBolton :)
Removed_2815
01-20-04, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by AlexPan
kool thanks RMBolton :)
No problem, by the way, nice salamander!
R
snakehunter
01-20-04, 10:37 PM
Is it me, or does that saly look gravid
meow_mix450
01-20-04, 10:40 PM
whoa it does look gravid, weird..........
Meow
Jeff_Favelle
01-20-04, 10:53 PM
Holy cool find man! Look totally like an Ensatina!
But what is a "Salamandra"? I know that Salamandra is a genus of Euro salamanders (Fire, Alps, etc etc), but I have no idea what a "Salamandra" is. Maybe you meant salamander?
AlexPan
01-20-04, 11:31 PM
Never herd of a term "Salamander". Lol, i call them Salamandra, but i would guess "Salamander" would be more better term or something. But i have no idea.
AlexPan
01-20-04, 11:32 PM
O forgot to ask.. i'm not familiar with a term "gravid", is it a colour or something als? Thanks.
scalawag
01-20-04, 11:42 PM
Gravid means pregnant.
Removed_2815
01-21-04, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by AlexPan
Never herd of a term "Salamander". Lol, i call them Salamandra, but i would guess "Salamander" would be more better term or something. But i have no idea.
Yes, Alex, they are called "Salamanders" for most English-speaking people. Does your original language refer to them as "Salamandra"?
R
Removed_2815
01-21-04, 12:25 AM
Also, I am fairly certain she is gravid. You can see the egg masses.
R
AlexPan
01-21-04, 12:37 AM
RMBolton, yes my original language (russian) does refer to them as "Salamandra".
Lol, it makes me want it back cause that way i might have being able to take a pair of babyes to reproduce in the future, and ones she would give babyes i would relice her. Or would it anyways be not good for hir for some reason?
AlexPan
01-21-04, 12:39 AM
O forgot to ask i will go to the same place tommorow and it will still be there, do you guys think its ok if i will keep it till it gives babys/lays eggs which ever it does? Thanks every one :)
Removed_2815
01-21-04, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by AlexPan
RMBolton, yes my original language (russian) does refer to them as "Salamandra".
That's what I figured, I learned something new today....
Originally posted by AlexPan
do you guys think its ok if i will keep it till it gives babys/lays eggs which ever it does?
A resounding NO.....
First, Ensatinas are egg layers. The eggs (usually between 10-20) are laid underground in a controlled environment and are brooded by the female.
Second, I believe the only intervention between wild animal and human should be simple observation; taking pictures, taking measurements, etc (more invasive activities should be left to approved research proposals). If we love these animals (which we all claim to do), then we should respect their boundaries and leave them and their offspring in their natural environment. There's really nothing more damaging and detrimental to a species than harrassing reproductively viable females.
Cheers,
R
AlexPan
01-21-04, 02:13 AM
I'm not really familiar with the word "brooded"? And you are wright i will not take it for my selph.
Removed_2815
01-21-04, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by AlexPan
I'm not really familiar with the word "brooded"?
My apologies Alex, brooding is the process by which the mother cares for her eggs and young (somewhat rare in the herpetological world). So, it would be hard to rear the young yourself since the mother has such an intrical part.
Incidentally, when I come across a word I don't understand I usually go to dictionary.com, very quick and easy.
Originally posted by AlexPan
And you are wright i will not take it for my selph.
Good choice, I think it's more satisfying knowing that the animals are out there living and reproducing happily :)
Cheers,
R
snakehunter
01-22-04, 04:00 PM
WOW, do most salmanders brood
Removed_2815
01-22-04, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by snakehunter
WOW, do most salmanders brood
Most do, yes. You see this in a lot of frogs too, and crocodillians.
R
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