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nuno
01-04-04, 01:16 AM
Hope you like

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/654pastel2-med.JPG

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/654pastel1-med.JPG

Thanks for looking

boa
01-04-04, 03:20 AM
Very nice nuno.

Yness
01-04-04, 03:23 AM
absolutely beautiful...isn't how funny how it looks innocently curious in that second picture

Linds
01-04-04, 11:03 AM
Beautiful little guy!

nuno
01-04-04, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the kind words. :D I absolutely love this guy.

Wizer69er
01-04-04, 01:06 PM
Beautiful nuno.Nice pics!

Clownfishie
01-04-04, 01:34 PM
Awesome nuno, he's gorgeous!! :D

Invictus
01-04-04, 03:10 PM
That is one goergeous snake, Nuno.

BoidKeeper
01-04-04, 03:18 PM
Very nice. Pastel? Who has pastels in Canada? Might have to get me one of those.
Cheers,
Trevor

Matt_K
01-05-04, 01:01 AM
Very nice Nuno!! Where'd you get him from???

MouseKilla
01-05-04, 08:49 AM
Beautiful snake for sure! I must say though that this is one morph that I have been unable to consistently identify. Could someone define what "pastel" means as it relates to boas? There are tonnes of sites that offer to sell you one but I've yet to see one that explains how they are produced.

chappy
01-05-04, 10:16 AM
Nuno he's AMAZING man!!!

MouseKilla,

here is a quote from another post about pastels, it was originally posted by JDouglas but he got the quote from Jeff Ronne at BoaPhile...

"First, what is a "Pastel"? [...] A Pastel is this: A Boa that has an odd overall wash lacking the normal amount of black and a reduction in black pigmentation in particular throughout the pattern. This is particularly apparent in babies, which have the same kind of washed out pattern as Hypos. The saddles as well as the side blotches have less black than "normal". In fact, often the side blotches have no black whatsoever. That's it, no more no less. Now it is unfortunate that this leaves a lot to interpretation. Identifying Pastels can be and is subjective. It is very much a matter of opinion. There are definitely degrees of "Pastelism". How much Pastelism is required to label an animal "Pastel"? I don't know what measure others may use, but I know what I look for in babies. I look for nearly no black in the side pattern. A very small amount of black can be found but nearly none normally. Sorry this can't be more definitive but it just can't."

MouseKilla
01-05-04, 10:27 AM
Thanks chappy. It sounds like murky territory to me. I wonder why you wouldn't call a snake with those characteristics a hypomel? The snake in the posted pic is certainly a lighter coloured specimen but as you look down toward the tail some black does appear and it doesn't appear to be faded in the least. I hope it doesn't seem that I'm trying to diminish the quality or beauty of this specific example, I'm simply trying to wrap my brain around what makes a boa a pastel boa. According to the definition above I think the boa I have may qualify but it was not sold to me as a pastel... I'm confused...

nuno
01-05-04, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys.:D Matt, I got him from Ryan Jensen. Thanks Chappy for the definition of Pastel. :cool:

Thanks,
Nuno

Matt_K
01-05-04, 12:35 PM
That's awesome man, i was going to actually say that he looks like one of Ryan's Babies.. All of his babies are soo distinct.. Have a look at Linkds girl. I picked her up from Ryan and she looks just like your guy, Zoe's girl looks the same too.. He's produced some killer babies, that's for sure..

Kase
01-05-04, 01:19 PM
Beautiful snake Nuno, and some great shots too ;)

Cheers,
Roger

Stav.T
01-06-04, 12:22 AM
Very nice baby Nuno;)

You will have some % of those if you breed it with a normal female if its a pastel, which it seems to be.

Stav

BOAS_N_PYTHONS
01-08-04, 11:38 AM
NUNU:

Very nice pastel indeed, thought you were shipping that 1 and others to me before Christmas, lol.

Cya...

Tony

Linds
01-12-04, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by MouseKilla
It sounds like murky territory to me. I wonder why you wouldn't call a snake with those characteristics a hypomel?

Sounds murky because it is...lol :p It isn't so much a morph as it is a selectively bred trait. There are hypomelanistic boas, they are referred to as such, and one line is referred to as a "salmon".

http://www.king.snake.com/boamorphs/mbpink2.jpg (remember to take out the .)

MouseKilla
01-12-04, 08:07 AM
More and more I'm thinking these guys are glorified normals. I realize that these don't look like what is normally considered a hypomel but it sounded like reduced black was at least part of what a "pastel" was supposed to be.