View Full Version : Something I find a little irritating...
snakers55
12-14-03, 10:23 PM
I find the amount of spelling mistakes throughout these forums a little irritating..Soooo many people misspell very common words and you can tell they obviously aren't typo's. Just my bit of ranting for the day.
Matt
(P.S. sorry for spelling "so" wrong).
Bartman
12-14-03, 10:56 PM
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig deal....sorry but honestly who cares
No problemo Matt ...good thing you brought this up;) I'm not feeling pinpointed but I know I make tons of mistakes and i can imagin how many people must think i've been raised in the woods! lol
I'm sure that i misspell many words when I write, I probably even do many sentence errors to and its a shame. I dont always check in a dictionary before writing in the forums because I dont have time most of the time. You have to understand that there's a few people here that come from Montreal and are not perfect bilinguals ( like me ).....But i try
I hope it will not irritate you if you hear me talk some day I have an accent to;)
Stav
johnnym1972
12-14-03, 11:13 PM
I agree 100% with you Matt!!!! You would think that when people learned how to type, they also learned how to spell. How hard is it to slow down a little and read what you just typed BEFORE you hit the submit button?!?!? I'm just glad that you had the stones to point it out to everyone!!!!
Take care, Johnny.
Wuntu Menny
12-14-03, 11:17 PM
I won't necessarily make a stink about it, but I find it difficult to take advice or suggestions from someone that can't even spell.
WM
I know what you mean. The thing is, our typing is what represents us on online. If you present yourself poorly (with poor spelling) it can reflect badly on yourself. :/
johnnym1972
12-14-03, 11:42 PM
Very well said Youkai, that is an awesome point!!! :)
Take care, Johnny.
BoAddict
12-14-03, 11:45 PM
hey i agree spelling mistakes and grammar bug me too but hey we are human and we all make mistakes
where it really gets me is in ad's sorry but if you can not word your ad right why would i buy from you
for the french you are forgiven as you are sorta speaking a different language
some of the spelling is so bad and then people say i hate school blah blah blah stay in school so you all can learn to spell and correct the grammar and spelling mistakes
btw im not immune to spelling errors either
C.m.pyrrhus
12-14-03, 11:52 PM
It doze not bug me vary much personily, allthow it wood be nice if a few peeple wood actwaly try to spell. And I am sher thare are those that do thare best and have a hard time at it. Small typoes are OK..but it is tru sum peeple are just bad at spelleng.
Sunrunner
12-14-03, 11:59 PM
I can not even believe you all had the audacity to even post this crap. Do you ever consider that there are people out there that just can not spell? And that you might be hurting their feelings. I will tell you that I know a few people that I am sure none of you could ever touch with a 10 foot pole as far as herping goes that were never formally educated. This is the most absurd and insulting bash post I have ever read and I have been here a long time. Do you honestly have nothing better to do?
Kim
johnnym1972
12-15-03, 12:09 AM
Hey Sunrunner, you repied didn't you? I guess you don't have anything better to do either!!! And it seems to me that you are the one doing the bashing!!! At least C.m.pyrrhus knows how to lighten up and joke about it... LMAO
Johnny.
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 12:14 AM
I was actually being quite polite in that post and I will not be baited by the likes of you.
Cheers
Kim
asphyxia
12-15-03, 12:18 AM
I agree with Sunrunner.
I am the CEO of a large Advertising Agency along, with 2 other companies, and my spelling Sucks- do to numerious reasions - none of which are anybodys business. So, if you do not wish to read any of my 20 years experience in herping posts, due to a few typos please hit the ignor button now! then fill in the blanks
_ _ _ _- _ _ _
Later
Derrick
12-15-03, 12:23 AM
mghlk podsrkhp pokjhpokhp mhtplmbntpo :p
I can not even believe you all had the audacity to even post this crap. Do you ever consider that there are people out there that just can not spell?
I don't think that's the point... Sure, not everyone can spell anthropomorphize or colOmbian correctly, but in those cases the posts are always legible. The ones that irk me are those that are full of types (honestly, how hard is it to read over a post)... or when people don't PUNCTUATE. When posts are impossible to read, I don't read them. It's simple as that. If people can't take the second to type "you" and not "u" or a simple comma, or if they can't look over their posts and correct the major typos, I just can't be bothered to sit up close to the screen, squint my eyes and try to make sense of the whole mess.
Like Youkai said... the way you write is the way you represent yourself online. If you type like an idiot then you're going to be perceived as such. It may not be true, and in some cases people prove their intelligence otherwise, but sometimes, there's no other deduction to be made.
I'm sorry to go on and on, but that type of thing bothers me quite a bit. Not so much anymore because I just overlook the posts I can't read, of course.
My apologies to anyone who ACTUALLY can't spell. lol :P
Zoe
Here as an example of what would irritate me:
"hi thre i hvea problme wit me bp he wont eat i dunt no what 2 do nemore iv etrid 4 4 weks but stil he jst lookz then goze away plz smbdy help me out o he livs in a 20glng hes on newsppr n he has a hidebo xand a waterdish plz help im rwally confuzed."
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 12:30 AM
So you think that it is ok to insult people's intelligence because they cant spell do you have any idea how many sucessfull people are out there that are not formally educated and likely could not spell worth a damn but are very sucessfull?
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 12:31 AM
And you are completly exaggerating Zoe.
northernsnake
12-15-03, 12:32 AM
I can spell ignorat I can spell prick do all people with disabilitys irritate you.
Know what I find irritating??????, people who complain over petty things!!!!! :D
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 12:34 AM
:) I can spell ignorat I can spell prick do all people with disabilitys irritate you. :)
paul_le_snake
12-15-03, 12:34 AM
to be honest, ive got bigger fish to fry than worry about peoples spelling and grammar
cheers
paul
So you think that it is ok to insult people's intelligence because they cant spell
When did I say that?
I reiterate : what bothers me (and I think the other posters) is NOT the occasional mistake made by a dislexic person or something who just doesn't pick up on words fast enough to be able to spell them correctly all the time. Once again, what I said was directed at those who refuse to punctuate (you don't have to be a university professor to use commas and periodes. i'm not demanding semi colons here!) and to those who make tons of typos and can't take 3 seconds to read over their posts to correct them. I thought that making your posts legible (for the sake of being politically correct - when you have the ABILITY to make your posts legible) when others are going to read it was just common courtesy.
And you are completly exaggerating Zoe.
I'm exagerating for a reason. I wanted to make obvious the fact it's not a little typo or grammatical mistake that bothers me, it's when posts are completely illegible. That was my point, that's why I exagerated my fake post. To show what I find irritating (and I've seen that a few times on this site and that's when I, too, get irritated). To show that most of the time, small mistakes don't bother me so long as I can make sense of what was written.
Zoe
asphyxia
12-15-03, 12:36 AM
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid
deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe
Originally posted by asphyxia
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid
deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe LOL, damn that's a hard read!!!!!!!I really prefer Ebonics:D
Originally posted by johnnym1972
Hey Sunrunner, you repied didn't you?
Actually no, she REPLIED.. Practice what you preach.. I don't mean to come off as rude, but if you're going to preach proper spelling and ask people to double check their posts before clicking on 'submit reply', maybe you should do the same. :D
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 12:42 AM
Matt have I told you how much I admire you yet today ;)
lol
johnnym1972
12-15-03, 12:51 AM
Hello all, I am going to post a copy of a genuine email that I recieved after politely pointing out the root of this very threads' content to another user who started a website. I have removed the users name to keep it confidential, but I still have a copy in my inbox to show the time stamp to any non-believers. I figured that if I did this you could all see for yourselves that I am not talking about bashing, insulting, or ridiculing people.
This is my message to him:
"Hello there, I don't want to be rude, but I really think that you should know this. The spelling on your web page is absolutely terrible! If you want to attract any serious clientelle, you need to run spell check before you submit any text to your web page. I am sending you this information in private so that it doesn't embarrass you in public. Please take my advice and redo your web page. I would never buy anything from someone with a web page that looks like that, and I have been keeping and breeding reptiles and exotic animals for 25 years. I hope that you can see that I am only trying to help you. I am not being critical of you, or making fun of you, I just wanted to help.
Take care, Johnny. :)"
This is his response:
"Thanx man. I do need to do that but unfortunatly my computer got so badly scrued up all i can do is go on internet. Ones i'l fix my computer i will most sertanly ran a spell chack. Cause when i try to update my page it keeps on freezing and i have to unplug the computer cause no buttons even wark. I apresheate for youre concerns. Thanks."
I hope that this clears up the misconceptions and calms the anger.
Take care, Johnny.
Forward me the site... I'll be more than happy to correct it for him.
Zoe
northernsnake
12-15-03, 12:55 AM
I cant spell to save my life it's very embarrasing makes me breake out in a sweat if some one findes out thanks for bringing it up A$$clown
northernsnake, I've seen some of your posts and trust me, you have nothing to worry about. You're one of the better spellers on this site.
Zoe
northernsnake
12-15-03, 01:10 AM
I use my dictionary it's jus't a soare subject for me. I try to spell proper.
C.m.pyrrhus
12-15-03, 01:16 AM
I am going to add to this. My post was not meant to upset, tease or ridicule others that have no choice but to spell incorrectly. It was just meant as a bit of humor to lighten the situation. Sorry if there were any actual folks that got upset.....I actually have many folks in family that are dyslexic. I also know many folks with learning problems when it comes to language. So I know myself that some cannot help but to spell incorrectly. I as well do not totally care on the forums. This is not really a place that correct spelling is totally nessesary. As long as the point get across, all good.
On the other side..for those folks that do type out like this:
"I am lookin 4 a leo geck and wood b kewl to see,,,, ne 1 with one show or pics show me..thanx"
This does bug me. Also caps lock. It is very simple to type a few extra buttons in order to use words as they were meant. Just seems lazy not to type those extra buttons, ya know? Plus, the shift key lies right under the caps lock key......
johnnym1972
12-15-03, 01:26 AM
Well said C.m.pyrrhus!
Zoe's example is no exageration. I've seen posts like that here. Not being a good speller doesn't mean you're stupid, but it does get in the way of getting the message accross. I know we have people here that english is a second, third or fourth language for them, and I don't feel they're stupid, often they try harder (and are easier to read) then the worst language manglers on the site.
Use a spell checker, you can get one for free that intergrates with Internet Explorer at http://www.iespell.com/ i don't know how many times that link has been posted.
My spelling and grammer isn't perfect, but at least I put in some effort. If it's not worth doing right it's not worth doing at all.
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 01:42 PM
Ok I have been here almost 2 yrs and I have seen some bad posts but never to that extent and please tell me why it is that we should have to please you all with our spelling anyways I am just cuious what is it your buisness anyway if we have proper grammer? If this was a professional buisness then yes I can see your point due to loss of buisness because of the lack of professionalism but this site is mostly filled with the avarage guy or gal comming on here posting some stuff about their herps.
unknownclown
12-15-03, 01:52 PM
I have to agree with it being a bit hard to read things like "n e 1 got h8 4 me nOw?" :p To me its also laziness I mean how difficult is it to type in the extra letters?
Although I am guilty of making quite a few typos my fingers just dont type certain words corretly I mean I know how to spell "that" but for some reason my fingers arent quite that quardinated and I always type "taht". Ive been doin it for years now it seems so I know to go over my spelling and check for it. Although anyone who talks with me on IM knows I do it alot. Also I just broke a damned nail trying to catch my dog who decided to run away at the beach and now is a handicap with spelling since I'm so used to it bein there. And alot of times I forget to put the " ' " in words like "dont" or "Im." I just figure people know what I mean and it aint all that serious. If Im wrong let me know and Ill try to remember it.
One thing that some people here may not know or realize is that americans and canadians do spell some words differently like "favourite" I think thats how you spell it, here in the US we are taught to spell it "favorite." I can usually tell, when Im cruisin the web, if Ive come across a Canadian site just for the spelling differences.
Just a thought ;)
Slannesh
12-15-03, 03:07 PM
Personally, I find posts complaining about spelling and grammar that HAVE spelling and grammar mistakes to be very annoying.
Granted, I have seen a few posts from time to time that are hard to read, but it's really not all that big of a deal. I have yet to see one so badly mangled as the example Zoe posted that wasn't a joke. This isn't an english class, we all make mistakes. As I said above, it's in quite poor form to ridicule someone for things you do yourself. If *I* were going to crap on someone for spelling i'd make damned sure there were no errors in my post about it anyhow ;)
To those who have trouble with spelling or english, keep trying. None of us are perfect, but I for one appreciate the effort some of you obviously put into making your posts as legible as possible.
To the lazy ones: Try to be more like the ones who have trouble, a little effort goes a long way.
And to all those who like to criticize people for spelling mistakes when posts are perfectly readable. Do me a favor and make sure you own posts don't make you a hypocrite. *rolls eyes*
I wasn't bashing anyone for their spelling mistakes. In fact, I'm sure I make them all the time.
But it is a fact that you represent yourself by the words you type. If a poster is constantly using poor spelling, punctuation, and grammar, it reflects poorly on them even if they are really very smart/nice people. It is just one of those things about communicating online.
I think, however, that the original poster in this thread was refering to things like 'netspeak'. And I have to agree, that it is the most irritating garbage to have to read through when people do it constantly or have whole posts in it. That is...replacing words with letters and numbers, misspelling on purpose, and using more abbreviations than actual phrases.
TheRedDragon
12-15-03, 03:37 PM
Poor grammar does annoy me immensely when I know the people just aren't trying, like using all CAPS, substituting to or too with 2, before with b4, forever with 4eva, etc.
I do understand that some individuals just cannot spell, my mother being one of them. She has a learning disability, and she does try her best. If I was to criticize her on her problem, I'm sure that she'd be very hurt.
I also understand when a person is trying their hardest to learn our language, and their sentences aren't exactly perfect. If I was to try and write a full sentence in French, you can gaurentee that it would be misspelt and in poor sentence form, because I'm not quite fluent in the language!
Nonetheless, my pet peeve is reading a post with the lack of knowledge of the difference between to and too, it's and its, their and there, etc.
And on a side note, for those on here that are popping a head vein over this thread, take a deep breath, maybe take up yoga or martial arts.... :p
daver676
12-15-03, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Zoe
Here as an example of what would irritate me:
"hi thre i hvea problme wit me bp he wont eat i dunt no what 2 do nemore iv etrid 4 4 weks but stil he jst lookz then goze away plz smbdy help me out o he livs in a 20glng hes on newsppr n he has a hidebo xand a waterdish plz help im rwally confuzed."
Whoa. Now I need a nap.
daver676
12-15-03, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by northernsnake
I can spell ignorat I can spell prick do all people with disabilitys irritate you.
I can spell ignorant. I can spell prick. Do all people with disabilities irritate you?
No. Or are you another wanna-be smartass?
snakers55
12-15-03, 04:24 PM
Well, what I was more so leaning towards is carelessness and ignorance.. Obviously, people with learning disabilities can not help that, but examples given by some of you fine folks were what I meant. I don't like the short forms people use either... Take the time to write the full word if you're going to write anything at all.
snakers55
12-15-03, 04:27 PM
Oh, and I agree 100% with whoever it was that said they would not buy an animal from someone who can't even spell the name of their animal...
northernsnake
12-15-03, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by daver676
I can spell ignorant. I can spell prick. Do all people with disabilities irritate you?
No. Or are you another wanna-be smartass? what:confused:
ReptiZone
12-15-03, 04:35 PM
Can some one plz tel me how some one can be here fro 3 years whne a person registers in 2002 and plus sSnakeSs.com is only creeping up on 2 years old if I am not mistaking.
I spell like crap and I feel I have goten a bit better compared to the first few monts some ppl may see the diffrence the ppl that have ben here as long if not longer then me.
sorry for the miss spelling but I feel that the info I give is a bit more important then a few spelling gramare mistakes.
some may agree and some may think I am full of $#!T but I still love you all And I love this site.
hwat od yuo maen i cnat splle?
viper32x
12-15-03, 04:42 PM
to me people spell the way they spell, i bet there a lot of things that you do that people don't like but your not going to change so way should they? well to make a long story short if it really bugs you that much don't read the forums and then you won't have to see all that. thats what i think but who cares what i have to say i'm just a nobody
snakers55
12-15-03, 04:43 PM
Lol..You had all the correct letters, just the wrong order.. I guess that counts hehe.
Ok I have been here almost 2 yrs and I have seen some bad posts but never to that extent and please tell me why it is that we should have to please you all with our spelling anyways I am just cuious what is it your buisness anyway if we have proper grammer?
Because we're the ones who have to read it?
I've seen posts that bad, or worse. Not often, but once a blue moon a completely illegible post will appear and I need to ask the posted to reiterate because I cannot understand. Here is a REAL example:
had my snake a month and he ate well then he shed he was in his hide most thetime getting ready to shd then when he did got real hyper five hours after he shed i fed him always have to feed him in his hide but he rarely comes out now not like before that was 8 days ago fed him again yesterday and he didnt come out all day then or today until i came home and found him on his branch he goes to his hide as soon as he sees me though and usualy im the only one that can bother him
I'm sure the guy can write with SOME sense and punctuation - it was rude of him not to use any, as a matter of fact. How are we supposed to help if we can't understand.
And to all those who like to criticize people for spelling mistakes when posts are perfectly readable.
AGAIN, I'm not criticising people for little mistakes! I'm criticising those who write illegible posts because they are too lazy to punctuate, use real words, or correct major typos.
viper32x
12-15-03, 05:36 PM
Quote:
had my snake a month and he ate well then he shed he was in his hide most thetime getting ready to shd then when he did got real hyper five hours after he shed i fed him always have to feed him in his hide but he rarely comes out now not like before that was 8 days ago fed him again yesterday and he didnt come out all day then or today until i came home and found him on his branch he goes to his hide as soon as he sees me though and usualy im the only one that can bother him
But you still get what he's saying. maybe the guy has a problem u don't know
northernsnake
12-15-03, 05:53 PM
This is the Kind of thead you finde on CLARKS forum nothing to do with herps. Time somone poled the plug.
No doubt. What irratates me more than spelling errors are people who waste bandwidth and net space with a thread full of garbage and complaints that someone who works here for free will have to close, or take time out of their time to watch over.
Marisa
Personally, I absolutely hate netspeak ( l8ter, nething, h8, 4ever). Especially with numbers, because it makes reading a post a lot slower.... probably because numbers are handled by a different part of the brain (someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, it's been awhile since I took psychology :D). I have to mentally sound out the number part of the word.... and that gets very irritating in a long post. Lack of punctuation is a pain too, because you actually have to stop and think about where the natural pauses should be - run-on sentences can be as unintelligible as a foreign language sometimes. I wish everyone would at least make an ATTEMPT at punctuation.... even if it isn't totally correct, it really does help other people understand what you're trying to say. (Ditto on the all caps thing - all lowercase is okay with punctuation, but all caps is almost painful to read (especially really long posts.... I won't real them, because they actually give me a headache).
General spelling, on the other hand, isn't usually a big deal. Honest mistakes are usually still very legible. If someone spells 'their' as 'thier' or 'that' as 'taht', half of the time people won't even notice unless they're really paying attention.
Originally posted by asphyxia
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid
deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe
Heh heh.... see, I can read this right through without a hitch and without slowing down. Take out the punctuation and translate it into netspeak, and it'd be pretty much gibberish. :D
Dawn
BoidKeeper
12-15-03, 06:29 PM
As a dyslexic schoolteacher who teaches French I think I better keep my comments to myself.
I will say this though. Spelling has never been used a measure of ones intelligence.
Cheers,
Trevor
asphyxia
12-15-03, 07:18 PM
"How are we supposed to help if we can't understand"
Just move on Zoe, you are not obligated to comment on every post.
"I need to ask the posted to reiterate because I cannot understand"
What type of question could possibly need an answer so bad that you have to contact the person?
a least you you got to use the word reiterate in a sentence.
I have been coming to this site for a while now and have not yet found a post that i didn't understand.
But in the begining, I had trouble with these : GTP,ETB,EDB,f/t,f/k
and a few more.
My point is, It is much easier to read a miss spelt word !!
Sunrunner
12-15-03, 08:10 PM
Ok well now that I have just looked up posts from most of the people on here that have just critizied other people for using short forms and saying there lazy, go back and look at your previous posts and see how many times you all have done it your self.
Good post Jayson and thanks for pointing that point out I think maybe that can just about shut everyone up on the lazyness issue now :)
Wow Bring the Holiday season close and people go over the edge. I would agree with Trevor spelling does not equate intelligence. I guess it is time for another "cooking with Hip" post to lighten the mood around these parts. Hey Brian How does mock moose with mushrooms in a white wine sauce sound?
Hip
viper32x
12-15-03, 11:24 PM
Sunrunner good post. you see nobody perfact so live with it................
asphyxia
12-16-03, 12:05 AM
Hey Brian How does mock moose with mushrooms in a white wine sauce sound?
Yo Hipster,
I'm with ya man, especially the shrooms and wine.
On a more serious note Hip, I have actually been
eating a lot of beaver as of late, The wife is enjoying
it aswell.
Any new road kill dishes lately?
Cheers
B
daver676
12-16-03, 08:56 AM
Internet Explorer Spell Checker. (http://www.iespell.com/)
If you can't spell, and care that you can't spell, download this. Even if you don't care, download this and give it a shot. It works very easily.
Derrick
12-16-03, 10:00 AM
haha this one of the funniest threads i've read in a while. Many of the spelling errors complained about are a product of IM usage. Language is changing. b4 u no it ppl will b sayn "LOL" not just typn it :D.
Jeff Hathaway
12-16-03, 10:03 AM
Spelling is certainly not a measure of intelligence. And, just as certainly, there are people with various problems such as dyslexia. I'm not offended by poor spelling or grammar, but it is definitely my preference to read something that is well written. However, I'd rather read interesting and useful text that is poorly written than well written drivel like much of this thread, and, without a doubt, including this addition to it of mine.
With all due respect to those with actual difficulties though, I believe that for the greater proportion of the culprits (not just on this site but generally as well), it is simply a matter of rushing while typing (resulting in typographical errors), not thinking much about what they're writing (which results in worse than grammatical errors some of the time), and not proofreading their posts. I always proofread; it doesn't take much time and I often find that I catch a few mistakes, or decide to rephrase something.
Now as much as I hate to admit it, I do lapse into netspeak occasionally. I've become quite comfortable with BTW, IMHO, and a variety of other terms. However, I don't think I'll ever feel that l8r, gr8, etcetera are appropriate. That is just me. But, I will agree with Zoe that posts, and emails, which have virtually no punctuation and feature netspeak jargon approximately every fourth word, are more difficult to comprehend. Undoubtably, I give them less of my attention, which, of course, does not necessarily matter to anyone, unless the person was specifically writing to me (which does happen quite a bit by email).
In the same manner that all microhylids are amphibians, but not all amphibians are microhylids, I believe that while poor spelling and grammar are not a sign of a lack of intelligence and effort, excellent spelling and grammar are indeed of function of either reasonable intelligence, effort, or both. Of course, a caveat about the preceding sentence- I'm referring to those circumstances where a person is attempting to communicate in their language of choice. I do have a great deal of respect for those who are working on their second (or third) language here on this forum; I shudder to think about what my attempts at typing in French would be like.
To summarize, do what you can, and please proofread your posts if you give a rat's a$$ about what anyone might think of them. If not, don't bother. IMHO, that is:-)
No can we plz get bcak to descusing sumthing mre useful?
Jeff Hathaway
Sciensational Sssnakes!!
Soul_Reaper
12-16-03, 10:36 AM
I am with Zoe on this one.
I do understand the fact that some people may not be very well educated for a number of reasons, therefore spelling becomes a problem. But it is very easy to pinpoint who doesn't spell right because of a lack of education and those who don't spell right because they are lazy. I absolutely hate net-talk.
Originally posted by Zoe
"hi thre i hvea problme wit me bp he wont eat i dunt no what 2 do nemore iv etrid 4 4 weks but stil he jst lookz then goze away plz smbdy help me out o he livs in a 20glng hes on newsppr n he has a hidebo xand a waterdish plz help im rwally confuzed."
I mean look at this monstrosity, it is clear that this person spells like this not because he doesn't know any better, the person only spells like this because of lazyness. All those abreviations and lack of punctuation are just impossible to read.
People say that this thread is wasting bandwidth (WOW! And the "3 word game" was so goddamn informative now wasn't it?), but in all truth those kind of posts are the ones who come around a lot more often, and those are the ones that 90% of the people here don't even finish reading just to avoid a headache. Therefore, bandwidth is wasted by people trying to figure out hieroglyphs similar to the one quoted above.
I am not being critical to the ones who in all truth cannot spell, by all means, i make a lot of mistakes too but that's ok...everyone does, i'm no grammar teacher. But people who completely ignore punctuation and abreviate EVERY SINGLE word possible on purpose, those annoy the F#%$ out of me.
Stop being lazy. If you want other people's help at least take your time to write something coherent and legible, and i am absolutely sure that you will get all the help you need.
ScreamingMisfit
12-16-03, 02:35 PM
this ain't english class and i ain't gettin marked on my typing ..:) so i don't care, if you can't figure out what im sayin from my short forms for some words then :) oh well............lol
who realy cares if words are spelled correctly anyways as long as you know whats being said!!!
IMO
Originally posted by Zoe "hi thre i hvea problme wit me bp he wont eat i dunt no what 2 do nemore iv etrid 4 4 weks but stil he jst lookz then goze away plz smbdy help me out o he livs in a 20glng hes on newsppr n he has a hidebo xand a waterdish plz help im rwally confuzed."
i had no problem reading this (and it looks more like he/she is drunk then lazy in "THIS" case)
Dark_Angel_25
12-16-03, 02:44 PM
It all falls down to this, the people who abbreviate and use nly netspeak, will almost NEVER get the answers they need.. and this is your problem how? Exactly, it isn't.
So when you come across a post that is all in netspeak or is made up of obvious laziness, then here is a phenomenal idea!
SKIP IT!
No one makes anyone else read there posts, and if they post and get no answers then they will clarify and ask again, either way it isn't any skin of any of your a$$es, and therefore I don't see how this is even an issue at all.
If you can't read it don't try, simple.!
and this is just my opinion.
Here's what I think:
1) Picking on people's spelling is petty.
2) Not making an effort to spell mostly correctly is inconsiderate...yeah I know some people are bad at it. Check out "www.spellcheck.net". Free online English spell-checking up to 20,000 words.
3) The real bad ones are hard to read. Some people wont even bother trying. This is poor communication.
4) Bad spelling and grammar is unprofessional. If your ads are unprofessional, there's a good chance you are too. While it doesn't mean I wont buy from you, it does make me wary.
5) Learning to spell can be long and painful, but if you need to communicate in a particular language, it is worth it in the end.
Cheers,
rg
Sunrunner
12-16-03, 03:16 PM
lol I can not believe this post is still going..... :) Hey ya'll I was just trying to defend the little guy who have a hard time spelling ;) Come on guys and gals this site if for fun not all about buisness that is what they have their own web sites for.
:)) :)) it is Christmas Feel the LOVE :)) :))
come on sing it with me
Jungle bells jingle bells jingle all the way..... oh what fun it is to ride on a one horse open sliegh.... HEY
hmmmmmmmm thats the way it goes i think ;)
BoidKeeper
12-16-03, 03:30 PM
there are people with various problems such as dyslexia.
That's right. Asking someone with dyslexia to spell something corectly is like asking a blind person to look at something or a wheel chair user to take a walk with you. Dyslexia is a disability like many others. You have to alter your expectations of people to fight their abilities.
I've earned two university degrees and teach in the public school and I've never been a strong speller.
Commenting on a persons spelling is like commenting on someones disability. It's not right.
Trevor
(Not spell checked, deal with it!)
MouseKilla
12-16-03, 04:39 PM
Ah yes, your typical long thread. The original topic is a fairly insignifcant argument that has since been twisted, blown out of proportion and taken out of context so much that no one remembers what it was about.
As always some people have become way too upset over something that is of little to no consequence and on the other side of that is the people that say things along the lines of "if you don't like ______ then don't come to this site".
Then there's the Bandwidth Preserver on patrol, defending bandwidth space for only the most worthy, most strictly herp relate posts and looking out as always for the poor Mods even if they have volunteered to monitor a forum that is set aside specifically for off topic conversation. Are those freckles or is your nose turning brown?
I'm surprised that no one has just set the site's software to automatically kill any thread that goes past 4 pages because by that time they've invariably degenerated into this same sort of nonsense. Yeah, bad writing is irritating to read but so are repetitious debates. Seems as though the subjects that are debated in this way are interchangable, even the participants are the same. Watch long enough and you'll know what certain people will say before they do.
The english language is great because it is so flexible and constantly evolving, new words are created all the time and some eventually make it into everyday conversation. The abbreviations we see exclusively online but all understand (IMO, BTW, BRB) are things we could consider part of that evolving common language. There is a difference between that evolution and the new words that become absorbed by the language and just plain butchering the language itself. The examples where numbers are used in place of words are simillar to the use of "yous" in conversation. "Are yous comin over this weekend?" It's not an abbreviation, it's just plain incorrect, and while using these things may not actually mean you are unintelligent they certainly make you look that way. As always though we're all free to make ourselves look as dumb as we like. What else is the internet for other than broadcasting to the world how dumb and/or perverted we are?
Sunrunner
12-16-03, 05:11 PM
Dashing through the snow on a one horse open sleigh over the fields we go laughing all the way HA HA HA .... bells on bobtails(?) ring making spirits bright what fun it is to write and sing a sleighing song tonight ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way ;)
Had a post here, but nevermind. I don't want anything to do with this thread.
Marisa
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