regurging baby corns?

[ChaosCat]

I picked up thes two baby zigzag corns recently, and they ate two good meals here, but for the past three meals, they have been keeping them down 2 days, then regurgitating them. I leave a week in between trying to feed them again-maybe I should make that longer. When these two got here, they were extremely skinny-one is a runt, thats for sure.

All my other baby (and adult) corns are fine, just these two are sick. From they day they got here, they have been in quarantine. I have been keeping them in separate gladware containers, with a water dish, and paper towel substrate.

I've tried turning up their belly heat-didn't do any good, they still regurged. I'm starting to think there may be something more serious going on. Possibly parasites or something worse.

photos are up at: http://chaoscat.lowerground.net/sickcorns/

Boy am I thankful that I've been using disposable latex gloves to clean their cages with.

-cat

[LISA127]

you might want to try a low wattage basking bulb in addition to the belly heat. especially if it is pretty cold where u live. also, minimize stress as much as possible. these are the two most common causes of regurgitation. after tackling these two, then i would consider the possibility of parasites or something.

[vanderkm]

In addition to what is already suggested I would wait at least 10 days, as much as 14 before offering food again - takes time for their gut to recover, especially after they have regurged three times. Watch closely to make sure they maintain hydration and some people have reported that electrolyte solutions are better than water when dealing with regurg problems. Parasite check might be a good idea during the wait period rather than waiting til after you are trying to start feeding again.

Assuming they have temp gradient of between 75 cool end to 85 warm end (too high will cause regurg as well as too low) then I would offer food a size smaller than what they were on. If they were taking normal pinkies I would get day old pinks, if they were on day old pinks I would offer only a pinky head for their first meal. Give them at least 7 days to keep that down before offering another small meal. My comments are based on limited personal experience but those corns I have had with similar problems have responded to this.

good luck with them,

mary v.

[gonesnakee]

2nd Mary's comments & would follow things up with whoever you purchased them from. If you dealt with a worthy source they should be the ones providing support for you & the snakes now. If a vet is involved & internal parasites are the cause I'd seriously consider getting my money back or make them foot the vet bills. If your husbandry is fine & the problems are due to the orginal health of the animals I would have issues with the supplier for selling them that way. Not saying its their fault as some things take time to surface, but if they have parasites they came form them, as you have stated that they have been in quarantine etc. while in your care. Really worry about them becoming dehydrated as they will do so & die quick if you are not on it. Good Luck Mark I.

[Jayson]

I would say that vet check is in order here, raising temps will cause regurgitation as well,unless the ambiant temp is below 75 on the cool side.
I would not wait very long, baby snakes have very fast motabalisms and dehydrate and die much quicker then an adault

[Siretsap]

what are your temps at?
temps temps temps, and don't stress them.

[ChaosCat]

temps:

cool end 72-73 warm end 85. Works for all the other babies, but these two, who came from the same person.

I'm glad I quarantined them. Going to wait 10 days then attempt feeding again and see what happens.

It can't be stress-they are by themselves, and no one handles them or moves their enclosures after they have eaten.

-cat

[BoidKeeper]

It can't be stress
Sure it can. The thing you menthioned are not the only causes of stress. When did they arrive and when did you feed them for the first time?
My corns are all at 88-90 hot spot and 80 cool side during the day. Even at night my room doesn't go below 75.
I had a corn regurge once and I waited two weeks. Every regurge will mean an even longer recovery time. If they regurge once then you should wait 7-10 days before feeding again. If you feed sooner than that and they regurge again then it will take even longer before feeding again.
In this case once the temps are brought up I would wait two weeks and start them on a pinky head or body. Then wait a full week if they keep it down and try the smallest pinky you can find.
Sick snakes need more heat so I would deffinately keep the cool side no less then 82.
Good luck,
Trevor