Rock Rattlesnakes

[stevesemerko]

Just wondering if anyone keeps these and if so post any pics you have. Also if you could give me some info on these guys like max. size, temperment, where they are found, etc. I saw a picture of one in my kingsnake and milksnake book and thought it was just beautiful and wanted to find out some more about them.

Thanks

Steve

[Hamster of Borg]

Lepidus sp. range from Texas, New Mexico, into Arizona - I believe, and then down into Mexico. There are five subspecies, only two found in the US. Very cool little rattlers (record length is 30"), one of my favorite species. Rather mild mannered and enjoyable to work with. They come in a fairly interesting array of patterns and colors - some of them from West Texas are a bright pink color, very cool. Many banded, but some are spotted, mottled, with pinks, oranges, greys, blacks...

http://www.ravnos.org/photos/t-venomous/lepidus.jpg
http://www.ravnos.org/photos/t-venomous/lepidus8.jpg
I knew I shouldn't have let him read that green tree python book...

Ham

[stevesemerko]

Thank you very much for the info and the pics. Yours (I am assuming they are yours) are very beautiful.

Steve

[atheris]

Crotalus lepidus Kennicott, 1861.

There is four subspecies not five .

Crotalus lepidus klauberi Gloyd, 1936.

Crotalus lepidus lepidus Kennicott, 1861.

Crotalus lepidus morulus Klauber, 1952.

Distribution only in mexico; North-West part of Gomaz Farias mountains and in Tamaulipa.

Crotalus lepidus maculosus Tanner, Dixon & Harris, 1972.

Distribution only in Mexico; Durango, Sinaloa, Nayarit, Jalisco .


Only C.l.lepidus and C.l.klauberi distribution in USA.

but all four are found in Mexico.


Kert Lipponen

WWW.HOTSNAKES.ORG

[reverendsterlin]

4? Crotalus lepidus castenaeus, Crotalus lepidus klauberi
Crotalus lepidus lepidus, Crotalus lepidus maculosus, Crotalus lepidus morulus

Funny every time I've counted I come up with 5

[atheris]

Crotalus lepidus castenaeus described by who ?
Far as i know its just a localitet from Nuevo Leon, that some people use Crotalus lepidus castenaeus .

Check out Current EMBL , there is no such species.

Crotalus lepidus castenaeus is just a synonym for a C.l.lepidus

http://srs.embl-heidelberg.de:8000/srs5bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-id+3uDLu1MaSYI+-e+[REPTILIA-Species:'Crotalus_SP_lepidus']


Kert Lipponen

WWW.HOTSNAKES.ORG

[reverendsterlin]

Crotalus lepidus castaneus described by Julia Zertuche

[atheris]

Crotalus lepidus castaneus described by Julia Zertuche

What year and where is this published ? Im 100% positive that this "species" is only a synonyme . Check out EMBL.

Kert Lipponen

WWW.HOTSNAKES.ORG

[reverendsterlin]

only published account I can find is in(below), if it's been subsumed as a locale it's find with me, I still find them refered to as the Nuevo Leon rock Rattlesnake and seperately listed. Why not, the viridis change was fun too lol.
Snider, Andrew, and Bowler, K.,
Longevity of Reptiles and Amphibians in North American Collections, 2nd ed. 1992 S.S.A.R

[atheris]

Current taxonomy knows only 4 subsp. and that is a fact. That what is proposed to species of its own, is another issue. Always stick on current taxonomy !!!

Here is one from my collection:

http://personal.inet.fi/private/kp/hot/klauberi1.JPG

Crotalus lepidus klauberi Organ mountains, New mexico

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Here's a pic of mine I got off a friend. Sorry for the quality. http://ssnakess.com/photopost/data/510/1227Rock_rattler-med.JPG

[reverendsterlin]

Hey Kert, I can see the Organ Mtns from my windows lol