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Linds
11-19-03, 09:09 PM
Does a simple band of vaseline around the top of the tank contain even the nymphs? Is there a better method?

Scotty Allen
11-19-03, 09:44 PM
The vaseline will contain the nymphs. However, bear in mind that the vaseline will eventually collect dust and no longer act as a barrier. Not to mention how hard it is to wash off when you get it all over yourself. Screw top lids are the best method. There is a product which you can paint on that will apparently stop any insect from climbing over it. I believe it is called "Bug Stop" or something like that, be dam*ed if I can remember where I saw it advertised though. I have no experience with the stuff, can't say if it works or not.

Stockwell
11-19-03, 10:27 PM
Linds you can use a screen type lid on several types of enclosures.
You can usually remove the plastic rims from the tops of aquariums, if you work on prying it up slowly and evenly... You can then hot glue or silicone aluminum screen in the opening and use the entire top rim as a tight fitting lid. It's not the most convenient, but it works, and hold them in.
Plastic file folder containers can also be used. There are ones with really good fitted lids. You still have to cut most of the lid out and replace it with screen,for proper ventilation.
Scotty's right though, screw on lids are good for small colonies. If you go to pizza joints you can get pickle jars free.
Large mason jars should work too...

Linds
11-20-03, 12:02 AM
I actually just read about that "Bug Stop" product on another site a couple hours ago, however when I punched it in to google all that came up was a pesticide called Bug Stop :confused: I finally found a supplier through pro exotics site... lol "This stuff is often hard to find, but you can order it direct from cricketfood.com ". I guess its a super slick teflon coating that lasts for up to 6 months or something. I was planning on keeping them in a 5.5 or 10 gallon aquarium. Would perhaps attaching a fine screening to the existing lid work out ok? The lid is just one of those black metal mesh lids you can purchase for aquariums (not the fitted versions that come with terrariums).

depressor86
11-21-03, 10:37 PM
i think teflon has been studied to be harmful in humans causing birth defects .. i cant see how it would be good if the bugs consumed some of it

Linds
11-21-03, 10:56 PM
Really? I've never heard of that. I doubt at all they would consume it, they aren't total garbage cans :p That's surprising since its used in a lot of cookware and I believe in medical applications as well... :confused: *linds on an info mission*

Linds
11-21-03, 11:06 PM
Very interesting...

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/06-health/C-harmful-products/2003/06C-07-18-03-health-risk-from-teflon-nonstick-cookware.html

Stockwell
11-21-03, 11:10 PM
Oh, man...who cares!!!
Next we'll be giving them Evian water.

you got to remember, these bugs are inhaling air in human dwellings. that air contains lots of nasty stuff... A fair percentage of herpers smoke, most homes have carpets,furniture, candles,incense(maybe)gas furnaces, if they are in the basement, maybe radon gas, most have shelves, and entertainment centers, that are made from particle board, that means x-ppm of formaldehyde gas, which makes them look pretty at the museum.
The water they get contains dijoxin, PCB's and god knows what other man made crap, including Fluoride...
but at least they wont have cavites! Theres nothing worse than a roach with bad teeth.

It's often been said that given Nuclear Holocaust
the only certain survivors will be Roaches, and maybe Rats.
Don't stay awake at night worrying about some anti grip spray

Linds
11-21-03, 11:26 PM
I'm not worrying about the Bug Stop... lol... I don't plan on cooking them at 450 degrees which is apparently when it reacts (enough to kill birds in the same room :eek: ) :p It does concern me however as I cook on that stuff daily. I have breathing difficulties that I've had every test under the sun done on but everything appears fine, so I'm always wondering what is the cause of it.

RepTylE
11-28-03, 06:44 AM
I saw that URL to the cookware story awhile ago. I gave it to a couple people to check out. I just avoid the obvious threats . If you were to remove all the reputed health threats to your life you'd be living in a plastic bubble. I think that modern life in general is carcinogenic.

jadegrasse
11-28-03, 08:48 AM
I wonder how the risk would compare to something like living with a smoker or drinking. When risks are put into proper perspective they tend to loose the fear factor. A friend once told me something stupid and funny , ‘saliva swallowed in small quantities over long periods of time will kill you’. Everyone dies eventually.

Anyway…. Going back to the main topic of the post, I now breed 3 types of roaches (lobs, hissers and cave) and am getting out of crickets due to them. I find the hissers the easiest to contain followed by the cave. The lobs are easy to keep and don’t survive well below 80 deg and are very prolific. They are also very soft and fairly small.