Help pick!

[hello]

Im trying to decide on the next colubrid i want to buy but i need your help.

I know most colubrids can go in 20gals but just so you know ill need one that can fit in a 20gal as a adult.

Im looking for something that is nice looking, calm, and doesnt musk alot when held. I know thats alot to ask for a snake lol but anything close to that will do fine.

If you can just throw some names at me so i can research and find out if im interested that would be great. I was thinking about a corn snake or grey banded kingsnake but i dunno.

I dont want any milksnakes because i already have a apricot pueblan milksnake so mark that out.

thanks, hello :D

[BoidKeeper]

Well yes a corn is the best choice for a colubrid that I can think of. However you may want to consider a Rosy Boa. They are just as easy if not easier than a corn to take care of and they don't defficate with half the frequency of a corn snake. They are small, docile(most), great eaters and would be fine in a 20g as well.
Just some food for thought given the criteria you asked for.
Cheers,
Trevor

[mark129er]

This is just my opinion but I think you would be hard pressed to properly house either a corn or a grey-banded king into a 20 gal as an adult . You could easily put a sand boa or a rosy boa in there. I'm sure others will also have ideas/input.

[liltattyprinces]

i would say go with a sand or rosey boa they are lovely little snakes and as said above are easily cared for just my 0.02

Laura-Lee

[Simon]

I'd have to agree with Trevor
Either a corn or a rosy boa. I'm not too much of a milk/king fan myself. Way too much of a corn fan....but rosy boas are great too. I currently own 5 rosy boas and around 600+/- corns...
I put my rosies in a tank and the corns in tubs. Rosies are one of the best suited snakes to live in a tank. Since you have a 20 gallon tank both of these species can fit in there as an adult happily~

Let us know what you decide to get.
Good luck in finding your pet~

[hello]

Im kinda leaning twords a kenyan sand boa right now. I dont know much about them but i would defintly research before i buy.

Any input on these snakes would be great and thanks for all comments so far :D

[mark129er]

I hope these help:

http://www.petsnake.co.uk/care_sheet-kensand.php

http://www.sundialreptile.com/caresheet-ksb.htm

[hello]

One care sheet i read says this:

20 gallon for a pair of adults

Does this mean i can house a male a and female together in a 20gal long?

Im planning on getting a male and female woth one being black / white phaze and the other being the orange / black.

[Stalabros]

I say you get a Western Hognose. Great disposition, look great with their little stuck up snout, and they don't generally grow more then 2'.

[mark129er]

You COULD house them together but you run the risk of one getting sick and passing it to the other snake. Also if you have to have a fecal done it is impossible to attribute one sample to either animal unless you see them defecate. It is better to only have together if you are trying to breed them.

[Dani33]

I say western hognose or rosy boa!

[hello]

lol why doesnt anyone recomend a sand boa?

Are they a bad snake or something or do uall just prefer the hognose?

Im not keeping a snake that has fangs lol sorry: http://tcslacerta.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hognose.jpg

[munchy]

^ scuurrd?:p

[BoidKeeper]

I have 4 sand boas, I love em. They are easy to house but not as easy as a corn or rosy boa. They need a substrate they can hid in and therefore you never get to see them unless you take them out. But on the plus side, they stay small are doicle and great feeders once they are established. They also come in Amel, Anery and Snow, just like the basic corn morphs.
As far as tanks go, there has been some debate over whether or not a corn can be kept in a 20g tank or not. An adult corn is fine in a 20g LONG tank, not a 20g HIGH tank. Just a note for clarification.
Cheers,
Trevor

[hello]

I only use 20 longs so i guess that is good.

Trevor, do you think a male and female can live in a 20long together? I would use seprate tanks but im kinda tight on space and if i can house them together that would be great.

I know if one gets sick then the other could get sick as well and all the bad things that come with housing 2 snakes in the same tank but in general can this be done?

I found another site that says this will work 2 so i guess its ok:

For housing, a 20-gallon-long terrarium will work well for one or two adult Sands. taken from: http://www.centralpets.com/pages/critterpages/reptiles/snakes/SNK2757.shtml

[BoidKeeper]

do you think a male and female can live in a 20long together?
I never house two snakes together unless I'm breeding them.
would use seprate tanks but im kinda tight on space and if i can house them together that would be great.
what's the hurry? I would suggest only getting one if you can only house one now. What's worse one healthy one or two sick ones? Take you're time don't cut corners and do it right, house them one at a time. There's no race here, get them one at a time.
Critique your sources of info. Who's writing these sheets and who's giving you your info? Anyone with two corns in a 20g and an internet conection can write and post a care sheet. Take everything with a grain of salt. However, when 99% of people who have more then 20+ snakes tell you they keep em all seprate they must know something.
Good luck,
Trevor

[hello]

Thanks trevor,

I guess ill start out with 1 and see how it goes from there.

gotta go soak my bp heh its time for his shed tonight

thanks, hello

[BoidKeeper]

If the soakl doesn't work what I always do is soak a thick fluffy bath towl with warm water and then I line a rubbermaid with it and put the snake inside. I wrape the snake in the towl and place the container inside the snakes cage for the night that way if the snake gets out of the rubbermaid it's still inside the cage. Next morning I always find two things, a clean snake and a dirty towl.
Cheers,
Trevor