View Full Version : Colledge Yes or No ?
jaybox_reptiles
11-06-03, 04:15 PM
Hi all i no i am only in hi school but every one keeps telling me its time to start thinking about colledge i no without a doubt that i am going to go but the thing is i have never been real good with school ( im dislexic and dont take crap from the teachers) so im wondering if i should just go for a year and get a buisness degree or go for foour years and get a masters degree what do you all thin about my situation? thx
Jay
I took a comunity college 10 month Pharmacy technician course.
I got a decent job but am not where I want to be so now I am in University. I think that route may be appropriate for you. It gives you the opportunity to see how you will do in post-secondary education with out risking your university GPA.
Turtle Matt
11-06-03, 04:27 PM
Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend;)..Just kidding of course.
Matt
cpt_retic
11-06-03, 04:32 PM
I'm taking trades . 6 month school training , then 4 years on the job trianing , and you get paid for it. It's good money . I get $14 an h for my first year , after 5 years I will be getting $25-$35 an h.
And some companies will pay you double time if you work overtime. Not time and a half. Cool huh! All I have to do is go to school 6 weeks a year, and my employer pays that.
Good luck.
Plumbers rule: ***** runs down hill, Paydays are every other Friday, and never forget to wash your hands before you eat.
You absolutely need higher education. I don't know what school you can go to and get a business degree in a year or what school offers a masters in only 4. But if you want to make any real money without breaking your back then go to college. I'm dyslexic too not to mention a ton of other labels my doctors slapped on me when I was a kid. But don't let that prevent you from acheiving your goals. You don't want to be stuck in a crap job for the rest of your life barely making enough to pay your way not to mention not being able to afford the better things in life.
Now I'm not saying that you can't acheive wealth without college, but unless you've got a real plan with real goals, start with school.
Edit : After reading Zoe's post. I have one thing to add, why don't you start respecting your teachers and working with them instead of working against them. Teachers don't teach because its good pay, they teach because they want to help people. It will serve you no purpose to buck the system when you want to succeed.
Hi,
Well, it's always a good route to take if you don't want to get stuck with a minimum wage job. You can go somewhere without any secondary education, but not nearly as far as you can with a college education. Also, I don't believe you can get a master's from College.
The advantage of college is that it takes you only a few years and you are already specialized, as opposed to university which is much broader.
Oh, you'll need to chill on the teacher thing... it's not like highschool at all, the teachers there don't put up with crap from their students because they don't really care. If they pass, they pass, if not, they know there are more people willing to do the work. It isn't like that in all cases, but college profs aren't pushovers like some highschools teachers are.
Zoe
Originally posted by Turtle Matt
Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend;)..Just kidding of course.
Matt
LOL, I hate correcting spelling because I know that I'm horrible at it but there was a comedical value to seeing about 10 spelling mistakes in a post about someone needing higher education.
Jeff_Favelle
11-06-03, 04:47 PM
so im wondering if i should just go for a year and get a buisness degree
You'll need to go a lot longer than a YEAR to get a degree. LOL! Try FOUR years, minimum.
As for whether or not to go, well I think everyone should try it. Some should try it right out of high school, some should take some time off to travel. Everyone's different. But the one thing that post secondary education teaches, (or at least it SHOULD) is to think critically. That is why they call it higher learning. Its completely unlike high school in every way. Its better!
In most cases... no secondary education means crappy job :)
Mike
lordkovacs
11-06-03, 06:01 PM
why point out someone's spelling errors? I'm sure that makes someone feel really confident in themselves. That's just ignorant.
I think you should pursue whatever makes you happy. I personally went through University and Teacher's college because I knew that's what I wanted to do...not because I felt I had to. Sure there is a lot of pressure to attend postsecondary school, but a tradeworker for instance is a profitable and respectable position, if that's what you like. They require highschool. In fact, sadly enough, most tradeworkers make more money than I do as a teacher! So, it's incorrect to say that college = more money all the time. So I disagree with a few people above.
Cheers, and good luck!
MIKE
lordkovacs
11-06-03, 06:03 PM
Do give those teacher's a break though!
daver676
11-06-03, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Turtle Matt
Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend;)..Just kidding of course.
Matt
LOL! My thought EXACTLY!!
DarkHunter
11-07-03, 04:06 AM
Well, i completed high school and I know how much pressure they put on you while your in school to look at college and University. For myself, i saw this as something i would just keep putting off....I didn't like the pressure they put on me and felt so bad about not being able to think of what i wanted to do for "the rest of my life" as they would put it. My best advice that i can give you is try to deal with the pressure and try to make the best decsion you can! I graduated last year.....And now am working full time at a pet store....And think alot about how i should have gone back to school right away, im sure people have told you "DONT TAKE A YEAR OFF" i ignored that myself, and it is really hard to even think about going back. Thats why its good to go right after high school. Anyways, i hope it helps......Maybe you could look into schooling for a really nice course like a vet type course.....that would most likly keep your intrest ;) And im sure theirs people on here that know more about it in your area.
~Shannon
Ps....I dont think anyone should really be commenting on spelling errors im sure you've all made them yourself, and besides that...it was at least readable :) And i think for him being dislexic he did a very good job :)
Originally posted by lordkovacs
why point out someone's spelling errors? I'm sure that makes someone feel really confident in themselves. That's just ignorant.
I think you should pursue whatever makes you happy. I personally went through University and Teacher's college because I knew that's what I wanted to do...not because I felt I had to. Sure there is a lot of pressure to attend postsecondary school, but a tradeworker for instance is a profitable and respectable position, if that's what you like. They require highschool. In fact, sadly enough, most tradeworkers make more money than I do as a teacher! So, it's incorrect to say that college = more money all the time. So I disagree with a few people above.
Cheers, and good luck!
MIKE
As far as spelling errors go, it was just comedical that a post about someone saying they were not sure if they needed to go on to higher education was rife with spelling errors.
Second, they only way most trade workers make more then you do is if they work 10-12 hours a day 6-7 days a week and had to put in 7-10 years as in "training" to do their job.
Not to mention they don't get a summer break. Or half the holidays or benifits that a most people who teach do.
You can say the grass is always greener on the other side, at least until you see your friend get his hand ripped off by a boring mill.
Higher education, at least when applied correctly will almost always lead to a higher quality life, maybe not by pure dollars but health, and stress levels will be better then those who work their lives away to earn what someone who has a degree can make working 40 a week.
lordkovacs
11-07-03, 10:28 AM
i'm not saying that higher education isn't wonderful. in fact, even though I'm a teacher I'm still going back to get my Master's degree. What I'm saying though, is that not everyone is suited for university or college. It's fine to pick a trade or the like.
And you CAN NOT tell me that I make more than most experienced tradesmen. My father and brother both have a trade. My father is in a union and makes close to $35/hour. He works 40 hours per week. My brother is not in a union and makes $22/hour. He puts in around 48 hours per week. As a teacher, do you think my work starts at 8:30 and ends at 3:30? hahahahah. that's funny. I work more then both my brother and father. I am not complaiing cause that's what I love, but your statement is not necessarily true. Furthermore, no one had mentioned the vacation time of a tradesman. That wasn't a factor. What was mentioned was that you needed univeristy or college to make money. That's not always true.
cheers,
MIKE
How bout asking Jay what he wants???????? Jay what are your interests? The best most rewarding jobs are ones you enjoy!!!;)
Big Mike
11-07-03, 12:04 PM
Try this http://www.iespell.com/
It's a spell checker for Internet Explorer...it's all about working smarter not harder ;)
My dad taught (retired this year).
He made good $ at it too, over 60$ an hour + 2 weeks @ xmas, a week in spring, and 8+weeks in summer
jaybox_reptiles
11-07-03, 02:46 PM
yea i have learnd to deal with my dilexea and add and adhd and anger but it is the teachers i think lol
Business is a good route to take. It can open many doors, espeacially when you really don't know whats right for you. I am taking it myself, and plan on getting my masters. It takes time but pays in the end espeacially if you enjoy it.
ohh_kristina
11-07-03, 04:45 PM
I had a rough time in high school, too. I have ADD and a mess of other "problems", but now I'm in college and it's a lot better. The classes are much more intimate (even though they are larger) and it's not so much bullsh*t, you know? I am enjoying it, whereas I despised high school with a passion. It's all about the willingness of the participant, though. Everyone here can tell you to go to college, but if you really don't want to, you won't enjoy it and will end up giving up.
Big Mike
11-07-03, 05:14 PM
It also makes a difference if you are paying for your education. In high school, it's like you are forced to be there and that does not sit well with a lot of people. When you are in post-secondary, and you're paying for it, you find that the more you put into it...the more you get out of it. And who doesn't want to get more for their money?
I have found that even in University, there are people there on their parent's dime who don't give a damn...kind of like high school. Technical schools are great because most everyone there is there for a single puprose...to get an education and to use that education to get a job and make money...no "professional students"....it makes it easy & fun to learn in an environment like that.
That is my take.
maiden_canada
11-07-03, 05:44 PM
it all depends what you want to do in college, or after you graduate. you can't really take any random college courses and expect a good career. also a degree is 4years, masters is 6 years then phd is 8 years
Here's what I'm doing... maybe you can get some ideas from it...
Basically I HAD dual enrollment, I was in HS and Community College. For almost all of my first year I took things called "CLEPs," College Level Examination Program. They're tests that you can take in lieu of a certain subject. IE, you can take a CLEP in College Math. Once you get your first 30 credits (your first year of college) you automatically graduate from HS. I did this and made it to my second year of College before I was 17. So trust me, whatever you choose to do... look into CLEPs. They save you time and money. I do admit, you don't learn as much as you would in the course. So you should probably try to focus on courses you know you're not gonna need to remember in the future. Hope this helps.
Jeremy
Also, not all colleges accept CLEPs so make sure you check with your college before you start taking them.
For anybody who does, go to www.instantcert.com for a GREAT site with study material for almost all the cleps.
I don't know
but from what I think,
going for higher education is a must. I just finished my Uni honers degree in Economics with the University of Western Ontario. But then I didn't think that it was enough so I am going for my masters in Economics...and I still don't think that it's enough...
This is a very competitive world...getting on top of things is one thing that we would need to do. So I'd say go for a higher education. Aim for something hi right now and once you reach there aim at something higher. Sooner or later you'll be climbing to the top (whereever that is...lol)
But at the end it all depends on how you think and what you feel. If you can afford to take Uni without too much trouble why not? Get a degree or more~
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