He died

[Rebecca]

My beardie that I was trying to sell has died. I believe due to internal injuries. One of the 3 cats (mine's excluded because she's so scared of him she won't even go near the cage) took him out of his cage. He only had 2 marks on him. One small puncture on his back and on kinda behind his ear. I found him laying on the cement floor not moving. I thought he was dead but he made it another 2 days. I found him dead this morning. I knew it was going to happen because of the way he was acting and also because his mouth was bleeding yesterday. And for those of you sitting there thinking "why didn't she take him to the vet" I tried they could do nothing. They wouldn't even x-ray of anything like that. The main reason I wrote this was to ask kinda a sick question but when you've had a beardie die did they throwup?? I found some puck by his mouth when I found him this morning. Nothing else just puke.

[Phox]

Sorry to hear your Beardie died :(

So what did the vet say? There was nothing they could do becuase he was beyond help?

[doenoe]

Im sorry to hear that you lost your beardie
I cant help you with the throwing up part though
Again, sorry to hear it

[CDN-Cresties]

Sorry about your loss :(

-Steve-

[Oliverian]

Oh.. thats so sad. Sorry for your loss. :( But I have to wonder, how did the cat get it out of it's cage?
-TR

[Dani33]

Sorry to hear it.

[Siretsap]

Sorry for your loss.
Well as you know, cats have bacteria on their claws and teeth. This is what allows them to be such good hunters, when they strike a bird, 90% of the time, the bird will die of infection.
As for how the cat got it out of the cage, well cats will always figure out a way to get where they want to get. I am sure it's not anyone's fault. I have a cat that is de-clawed and I still don't let him free roam in the reptile room without my supervision since I am sure he would try to snack on one of them

[Rebecca]

Thanks everyone. I was quite upset all day yesterday but now I'm ok. Well still miss him and all but better. Well all of the cats are de-clawed. The vet just just "too busy" to see him at all. As for the cat got him out I have no idea. I think he might have grabbed the cat, bite it and then clung on long enough to get pulled out. That's just a idea though.

[foman]

That's a shame she was a sweet lookin dragon.

[raebug2000]

im never gettin a cat. :(

[NewLineReptile]

Sorry to hear of your loss,

Brandon

[bob_thesnowman]

that was a very cute beardie,i'm sorry to hear he never made it,cats are pretty smart when they want something,i know one of my cats can open a latch on one of the closet area's in my house, death sucks don't it..

[Rebecca]

Ya it does. Although I'm glad he didn't suffer for too long. He only lived for 1 day and 2 nights. Died sometime during the second night. I was just getting him tame too. My sister used to secred him, although she didn't know she was, she was just saying hi. After I told her to stop he calmed down for me to pick him up and that. Anyone else put their hand in the cage found out just how strong beardies jaws are!!

[drewlowe]

I'm sorry for your loss!!!

[LadyHawke]

vets make me sick, they are only in it for the money not the welfare of animals, i would have said that because it was a reptile is why they couldnt make room to see it cuz it wasnt cute and cuddly..........but my recent experience has proved that to be wrong, my patagonian cavy broke her leg and every vet in barrie said no they wouldnt take her, except one emergency center, i was later referred to 2 vets in toronto
i would search for a vet now that will take in reptiles in case of future mishaps regardless of how 'busy' they are, a life is a life no matter who it belongs to
sorry about your loss

[marisa]

I cannot believe a vet said there was nothing they could do. Either you have a terrible vet or a stupid one. If there was nothing to do be done the animal should have been humainly ethuanized.

Sorry for your loss.

Marisa

[Rebecca]

I don't know why the vet wouldn't take him in. They just said they were too busy. Maybe they had another emergency with a different animal?? But at any rate my guess is that he would have died anyway. Who knows. I've gone through the whole vet thing before no one local knows anything (I found this out after I got my lizards, stupid I know on my part) Basicly I know more about them then they do. They just don't get them often enough for them to be up with lizard care and that. The closest one is about 5 hours away. Just too far away. Thanks for all the kind words everyone.

[Siretsap]

Originally posted by LadyHawke
vets make me sick, they are only in it for the money not the welfare of animals, i would have said that because it was a reptile is why they couldnt make room to see it cuz it wasnt cute and cuddly..........but my recent experience has proved that to be wrong, my patagonian cavy broke her leg and every vet in barrie said no they wouldnt take her, except one emergency center, i was later referred to 2 vets in toronto
i would search for a vet now that will take in reptiles in case of future mishaps regardless of how 'busy' they are, a life is a life no matter who it belongs to
sorry about your loss

I agree that there are a lot of vets in it for the money. But not all of them are in it for that. Many of the vets get trained for domestic cats and dogs... In theory, they wouln't be allowed to take in an animal they didn't get certified for. My gf is studying in animal science at the moment and guess what, they only see one part of exotic animals, which are birds.... So unless you find a place where they do concentrate on reptiles and other exotic animals when you do your vet studies, chances are you will not lurn much about reptiles. A friend of mine knows a vet who still thinks boas and pythons are venemous because they have heat sensing pits.... Just something he "learned" back when he was studying his 2 course reptile class.

I had many bad experiences with vets before and have since read up on many problems related to reptiles and even bought a copy of Reptile Medecine and Surgery by Mader. A bible for references on treatment and identifying symptoms.

I also managed to find a good vet after going through about 8 of them.

[LadyHawke]

Originally posted by Siretsap
Many of the vets get trained for domestic cats and dogs...

then really they should refrain from calling their services for animals then, example Animal Hospital....should really be called Dog and Cat Hospital, the word 'animal' is misleading if they are only going to take 2 types

In theory, they wouln't be allowed to take in an animal they didn't get certified for.

actually i went to a emergency vet the night my cavy broke her leg and they went out of there to call a vet in Guelph to make sure she would be comfortable until i could get to a vet that could help her, thats what any vet should do, but its not the case

My gf is studying in animal science at the moment and guess what, they only see one part of exotic animals, which are birds.... So unless you find a place where they do concentrate on reptiles and other exotic animals when you do your vet studies, chances are you will not lurn much about reptiles.

we really need more people in this field to look after our reptiles and exotics, maybe your GF is one of them?? ;)

I also managed to find a good vet after going through about 8 of them.

I have vets too, more then one, just in case, the thing is when its a real emergency i have to travel at least 2 hours to get there, that can mean life or death, and not every vet will help until i can get my animal there

[TheRedDragon]

Sorry about your loss. :(

[JonD]

That really sucks. Vets really should be well versed in all common pets and livestock.

[Slannesh]

Sorry to hear about your beardie, always sucks when that sort of thing happens. I had one of our cats go through the metal screen on the top of one of my terrariums once and killed my little gold dusted day gecko. Cages are all Cat proofed or locked in a room since then. :(

I'd just like to point out one thing however. I'm sure there are exceptions but most Vets certainly aren't in it for the money. Unless things have changed in the last 6 or so years Vets in Canada could expect to earn about 50K a year, That's after going at least $250,000 in debt to start a clinic. Untill recently reptiles were VERY exotic pets and even now there aren't many vets that specialize in herp care. I took two years of pre-vet/zoology at the U of Calgary after high school but didn't continue due to students from central Canada getting preferential treatment to get into the veterinary school in Saskatoon and I didn't want to move to Atlantic Canada to attend the only other Vet school in the country at the time. (there may well be more now, this was almost a decade ago now :) )

There are definately ways for Vets to make tonnes of cash. None of them involve dealing with people's pets unless you're working for the rich and famous. Mostly Large animal stuff.

Part of my studies was volunteering at the Northeast emergency vet clinic in Calgary... it was always a madhouse, the vet saying they were 'too busy' was likely telling the truth. They have very limited staff and resources and every vet i've met thus far has had a deep seated and genuine desire to help animals of pretty much any variety.

Again, i'm very sorry for your loss. The vet probably should have at least suggested euthenasia if your little guy was that badly hurt.