Guess this snake :)

[JD@reptiles]

Here are a couple pics of a snake i found this summer... the people who were with me when i found it PLEASE DONT REPLY to this post. and i think i told a few people what it was, so dont answer either. sorry for the blurry pics... but it just makes it a little harder!

Have fun!

Jordan :)

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/562DSC00136-med.JPG http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/562DSC00134-med.JPG

[Kyle Walkinshaw]

Melanistic garter??

[B-Rep]

Kinda looks like a racer?

[enso]

I'd have to agree with Kyle. Melanistic Garter Snake.

[Tim_Cranwill]

I was going to say malanistic garter too. :)

[Jeff_Favelle]

Scales don't look very garterish to me. Hmmm... but what else could it be?

[J-Man]

I was gonna say garter too... don't know what a malanistic garter is though... we have those on the Montour Trail by my house.

[crimsonking]

geesh, can't really see his nose. I'd say an eastern hognose.
:Mark

[JD@reptiles]

not bad guess's so far.

[ranmasatome]

ahhh....you're in ontario right jordan?? hmm....scales dont seem to be keeled....i wonder...

[ranmasatome]

or maybe they are...geez..its huritng my eyes

[mk-ultra]

eastern hognose ?

[enso]

Does that mean no one is correct? Black Rat?

[mk-ultra]

the more i look the more it looks like a eastern hognose and i think i can see the rear fangs back in the mouth

[JD@reptiles]

it means you have good guess's... im not saying they are wrong, or right. :p

[mk-ultra]

http://www.snakesandfrogs.com/scra/snakes/images/hog1.jpg

black eastern hognose im pretty sure
:)

[casacrow]

Heterodon platyrhinos? Could ya throw in a belly shot?

[JD@reptiles]

nope, sorry...

[JD@reptiles]

the pics i have posted, are the only ones i have of that snake...


anymore guess's?

[RepTylE]

Doesn't quite look like a melanistic garter to me . I'm going with eastern hognose.

[Mike P]

looks like a black racer but i dont know if there range is that far north.

[RachelS.]

ummm I would have said it looks similar to a water snake, the face and all, and the striking reminds me of the water snakes down here. I know hognose snakes would rather play dead than bite, and they dont really strike with their mouth's open so it cant be one of those. But it sure does resemble a melantistic garter or ribbon snake of some sort or maybe a racer. Let us know Jordan!!

[Gregg M]

I is a melanistic garter for sure....... Even has the white patch under its chin.......

[aaron]

Lake erie watersnake!!!!

aaron

[ranmasatome]

hmm...white patch under chin...
cant be a hognose...its nose is so rounded....ahhh...
some sort of melanistic racer?

[JD@reptiles]

anymore guess's???? i will let you guys know tomorrow!

[Siretsap]

I will go with a blue racer in a dark phase.

[Oliverian]

I think it's much too thick to be a ribbon. The face is way different than a garter's, too. I'm gonna say Black eastern hognose, just because it's so similar to the pic by mk-ultra. -TR

[Katt]

Well if it's not a melanistic garter or a hoggie, then a black pine. They've got white chins.

[Siretsap]

Odd,
I hesitate on 2,
northern water snake
and a racer.
but the northerns, have some patterns on them and this one doesn't or it doesn't show in the pics.

[JD@reptiles]

Alright alright, heres the answer you were waiting for. all of you did GREAT i was hoping you would all guess hognose snake... but it was a melanistic garter. it acted almost exactly like a hog though... thanks for posting! i will try to give out a prize next time...

[Oliverian]

Lol, thats crazy. But yea, I see now that it's a garter's head, just flattened out. He must have been rather p***ed at you. ;) Nice find.
-Tammy