View Full Version : Would u wear an aligator or croc skin product?
I was wondering if anyone here would have a problem wearing a product (like a jacket or shoes) made out of aligator or crocodile skin?
I initially thought I would have a problem with it but when I thought about it rationally I wasn't too sure anymore. Their leather would come from a farmed animal... the animal is not wasted from what I understand as the meat is sold for consumption. Aligator and croc farms have actually helped the wild population from becoming endangered or extinct. So in a wierd way if you support the aligator farm then are you not helping support the conservation of the species?
I would not wear anything made from snake skin or monitor skin as I know these are not farmed but caught from the wild for their skin and this trade really hurts their wild population.
Let me know your thoughts.
Baz
ohh_kristina
10-22-03, 12:42 PM
I would not, but then again, I am a vegan & don't wear or use any animal products. To me, every animal has a right to live a good life. Being farmed and then killed for leather and food is not a good life, to me. Just my opinion.
Note: I DO NOT look down on people for eating meat or wearing leather. I just personally don't do it.
Would I have a problem wearing FARMED alligator skin? No. But I would tend to think the more people who wear farmed skin, the more the demand for the skin goes up causing poaching in the long run....maybe....i dunno....
Marisa
I don't think the demand would go that high... its pretty expensive stuff.
Well Ivory is expensive too but look at what happened to elephants.
Marisa
yeah but I don't think elephants are as easily farmed ;)
frogman
10-22-03, 01:57 PM
I wouldn't not wear it because I think that most of it is kinda ugly. But I wear leather and as long as I am sure it is a farmed product then I really wouldn't have a problem with it other then the ugly factor.
Frogman
Ugly???
This looks wicked! lol
http://www.arcadebios.nl/posters/morpheus.jpg
Weather1
10-22-03, 02:15 PM
It could be an imatation pattern
could be. Imitation would be cheaper (more affordable for me). i wonder where I can get one
Corey Woods
10-22-03, 03:32 PM
I wouldn't have a problem wearing farmed Alligator skin.......I wouldn't have a problem eating farmed alligator meat either.......actually it is really good!
Corey
BoidKeeper
10-22-03, 03:40 PM
Would I have a problem wearing FARMED alligator skin? No. But I would tend to think the more people who wear farmed skin, the more the demand for the skin goes up causing poaching in the long run....maybe....i dunno..
That's how I feel too.
Trevor
Scales Zoo
10-22-03, 03:53 PM
I truely beleive that if demand would go down, poaching would lessen, or stop.
If no one bought the stuff, poachers wouldn't' have anywhere to sell their product to.
So, no I wouldn't wear it.
Now if we had a big alligator, and it died, I might make it into one of those spiffy jackets.
But I guess if people saw me wearing one, everyone would want one, and poaching would run rampant.
Ryan
I think in a ideal reptile lovers world it would be best if there was no demand for any reptile meat or skin.. but I don't think we are ever going to get that so I think farming is the only real working solution (combined with strict regulations so poached animal products don't come into the market.. I believe they are pretty tough with this already).
ThEmAdHaTtEr
10-22-03, 04:04 PM
I would, someone is going to buy it either way, and If i like it, why not let that person be me? If the seller were to be like 'Yeah ill Kill this Gator so you can wear its skin" the answer would be no.
jaybox_reptiles
10-22-03, 04:07 PM
i would were it if it was like boots or a knife holder or a belt but not as a jaket, pants or shirt but i think as a belt it would be kool
TheRedDragon
10-22-03, 09:04 PM
I personally wouldn't, I'd stick with the imitation stuff. I'm the same way with fur.
T.O-SK8TER
10-22-03, 09:21 PM
If it was farmed then sure but otherwise no, and also I think we should leave this style to Paul Hogan! also my father has had aligator before, he says it taste like chicken!LOL
Never, always looks better on them.
Scales Zoo
10-22-03, 09:33 PM
What about a human skin jacket.
That would be cool, I'd wear lots of em, I know some people who would be more productive as jackets.
Ryan "Gein" Wunsch
Id be a fur coat not a skin jacket :P lol
KrokadilyanGuy3
10-22-03, 11:01 PM
Alot of the alligators from farms were wild anyways. Farmers are allowed to collect a certain amount of eggs from wild nests and raise them. As I remember the hatchlings that were bred in captivity are released (17)? percent. If I remember correcty.. So it can be tricky to if they really were farmed or were just collected.. Personally, I wouldn't wear a jacket or something like that because Id be truely pissed if something were to happen to it and Id treat it like gold with the money I spent on it.. A waste of time and money.. However I would like a croc hat with it bordered with teefs.. Xain
KrokadilyanGuy3
10-22-03, 11:02 PM
Oh yea, it would depend on the species of crocodilian and a select few farms.
NewLineReptile
10-22-03, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by enso
Never, always looks better on them.
Well said i agree 100%
Brandon
I'd have no problem with it whatsoever
LadyHawke
10-22-03, 11:59 PM
crocs and gators are on the CITES list, so, in the long run how does killing an animal actually save a species?? these farms claim that they saved crocs and gators from the brink of extinction, but in reality laws were passed to protect these animals from being hunted, all these farms do is condone the killing of these magnificant animals on all levels
Solid Snake
10-23-03, 12:15 AM
edit - nm
I have no problem with farmed animals. I lived on a cattle ranch and noticed farmed animals (domesticated ones at least), are different then wild animals.
People will never stop wearing animals. So I believe the farms were opened in hopes that at least they may purchase skins from animals meant for this, and not poach them. Not sure if this logic is correct or not, but something is helping alligators and crocs make comebacks in small ways.
Personally I find animal print clothing to be out of date, scary looking, and tacky. Especially boots made from snake skin or alligator skin. *shudder*
Marisa
Alligator skin makes me look fat. ;)
I agree with what Xain said, if the animal was farmed and not collected from the wild, using its skin means we are not wasting part of the killed animal, just like we wear cowskin and lambskin.
I would be pissed if the animal was only killed for its skin, now that's wrong.
Weather people buy from the farm or not, If there is demand, there will be poaching. Look at ball pythons, they are cb bred by the thousands in north american every year, but still they are also imported every year in large numbers aswell.
Also Iv seen alligator farms on TV and they dont exactly look like the best places to be raised, with over crowded ponds and unsanitary looking living conditions. But thats just what i see when looking at the TV. There could be better ones out there.
imp_star
10-23-03, 08:35 PM
My vote is NO
I don't think I would wear it, only because the products I have seen don't appeal to me, not for any moral reasons. Farmed animals are not wasted, it would actually be a waste to leave their hides behind and only eat the meat. I do agree with many others, I would never support any wild animals being killed off for vanity or whatnot. If you want to wear it and eat it, farm it, don't take from the wild. We do enough damage as is.
Originally posted by BAZ
I think in a ideal reptile lovers world it would be best if there was no demand for any reptile meat or skin.. but I don't think we are ever going to get that so I think farming is the only real working solution (combined with strict regulations so poached animal products don't come into the market.. I believe they are pretty tough with this already).
Well said. IMHO its an unrealistic goal to expect the demand to ever diminish. Farming is sort of a compromise.
KrokadilyanGuy3
10-23-03, 09:22 PM
Being CITES means that the animals are regulated, hunting, farming trapped are all regulated.
And for the reasons Jayson said, alot of farms are being shut down or investigated. SO you never know what will happen on that line. Also, just on the alligator part, I highly dubt they were as endangered as they were declared back in the 70s, I think it was the 70s when they were first protected, and to go from obvisously low numbers to over a million in one state within 30 yrs doesn't seem viable to me.. Thats just me though..
Xain
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