This is why we shouldn't house more than 2 snakes together (Warning Photo)

[Simon]

Sigh...
well this is what happens when you house more than one snake together with another one....Cannibalism...who says corn snakes aren't cannibalistic?

This little accident happened today when I was looking at my snakes (another feeding day) and I found this one with a huge meal......both were non eating snakes.....well I guess now one is....

I would of separeated them all if they were eating.....but nope
hope this one will survive and not regurgitate the 'meal'......

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p16b3dba744ce3ecfed8b4e392f8888fd/fada887d.jpg">

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<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p0379ca55fb2677d9982f1f54f519ea81/fada8857.jpg">

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pe7447570262e1dd484c01feb85648c2b/fada883e.jpg">

So becareful for those of you who keep snakes together in one day......

My advice...one snake per enclsoure....

[enso]

Sorry about that man. You'll save others from making the same mistake. Hard lessons learned.

[Jeff_Favelle]

keep it super warm and humid and don't even look at it for a week.

[reptilesalonica]

Yeap! Jeff is right.
Poor snakie in the belly...
~Greg~

[Invictus]

That's pretty shocking to see. Good lesson though!

[ChokeOnSmoke]

that is crazy
Sorry for your loss

[Amiechann]

That's crazy. We were helping a friend at the Indy show and had to pull apart 2 very small spotted pythons that were trying to wrap each other up. Managed to get them apart before any damage was done.

[Katt]

Man, I've heard this story tons of times! Non feeding corns eating each other. You got lucky though, a lot of people find them dead.

[CDN-Cresties]

Sorry about your loss,:( lesson learned though.

-Steve-

[reptiledude21]

man, thats scary im separating my new corn i get soon.... i was gonna house them together but after seeing that i dont wanna have that happen.

[TheRedDragon]

Sorry to hear about your loss. :( I saved a corn from getting eaten by its cage mate the other day...I found them locked together in a ball and I managed to seperate the two before any real significant harm was done. (This was at work by the way, I wouldn't house two snakes together)

[Stockwell]

Take heed people...Said it a million times...House Snakes Separately.... You ought to see Ball Pythons that look like that

There's a good chance that will come back up Simon, they usually do.
The only chance is like Jeff says, make sure it has water,...cook it at 85 to 90 and don't even breathe near it for a week.
The slightest disturbance will guarantee a nasty regurge.

[lilyskip]

Ah man, I'm sorry Simon. Good luck while the snake digests...

[Weather1]

Keep us posted on his digestion process. Sorry you had to loose one that way.

[Simon]

Sigh...
yeah too bad that I had to loose one that way...
I would never house 2 snakes together if I didn't have to...
I have over 600 snakes in my house right now and with 14 racks all full....each rack has at least 12-14 floors....for the hatchlings each floor has 3 tubs.....and I have 9 of those racks...
9 * (13 * 3) = 351 tubs....and I have over 600 hatchlings...so basically 4 hatchlings per box.....and this still happens....geeze....
that is why I would need customers to get them off me as soon as possible....sigh..

I HATE HOUSING SNAKES TOGETHER (OTHER THAN BREEDING OF COURSE)

I'll keep you all posted on how this little gal goes....

[jay76]

That sucks Simon! :( Indeed a good lesson for those who plan on multiple snakes in the same enclosure :(

[KingFfaj]

oh my god! who the hell sold reptiledude21 a snake?
this is a big mistake, the guys inept
cant say im suprised about the suddern attack on a cage mate though, young corns are partial to the odd reptillian lunch

[snakehunter]

that would have been an interesting battle to see, sorry for your loss

[stevesemerko]

I made that mistake when I housed a pair of Gophers together when I was finishing their cages (they were delivered a bit early and I had to take them). When I noticed both snakes heads were behind the cork bark I got a bad feeling and decided to check it out sure enough the male had almost all the females head in his mouth I picked them both up and kind of jiggled them and the male let go, and aside from a little blood she was still in great shape. I now make sure I have enclosures set up about a month give or take ahead of time.

Steve-O

[Simon]

Well there is one good news after a week of not disturbing it..
it did take it down and digested it...and pooped the other female out (I separate them by sex so I am sure that it was a female that ate the other female...)

I took a photo of the poop....(yes I am disgusting..)

I'll post it later~

[enso]

Very good news. After reading that Ladyhawk's regurged the mouse he caught, it left me thinking of your snakes situation. Not disgusting at all Simon, I'd be intrested to see the pic.

[SCReptiles]

Yes Simon, we can feel your pain. See most people think we only keep venomous snakes, but the truth is we also love corns. Barry, Joe, and I decided to house our beautiful new candy cane corn with one of our coral snakes. Well, you can just imagine the horror we felt when we returned and discovered this.
http://secw.bravepages.com/Chuck/pics/coral_corn.JPG

[LadyHawke]

their eyes always seem bigger then their stomachs!! i just learned that! i am glad your snake managed to keep its meal down, my corn wasnt as lucky. sorry about the other snake too, that really sux

[BoidKeeper]

Yes Simon, we can feel your pain. See most people think we only keep venomous snakes, but the truth is we also love corns. Barry, Joe, and I decided to house our beautiful new candy cane corn with one of our coral snakes. Well, you can just imagine the horror we felt when we returned and discovered this
Chuck I can't decide if you're tying to be funny or not. The reason I can't decide is because I thought for sure that you knew enough to know that people feed corns to corals that won't eat. As a matter of fact there was a post recently in the venomous forum showing a coral eating a corn. So I'm pretty sure you're trying to be funny. Let me tell you that you're not funny at all.
Trevor

[marisa]

Thank you for posting those pictures Simon. I am SICK and tired of people telling other people its o.k. to house corns together. ITS NOT! It's not just non-feeders either. These mistakes can happen at any time when housing snakes together IMHO and should be avoided by simply buying other cages. Although I see why you had them together at that point, most people do house non feeders together. I believe around 3-5 people this season have had hatchlings eat each other. Its horrible to see newcomers to this hobby get told that their new hatchlings corns can live together. I am glad this is here for another point for the arguement against it.

Marisa

[SCReptiles]

Chuck I can't decide if you're tying to be funny or not. The reason I can't decide is because I thought for sure that you knew enough to know that people feed corns to corals that won't eat. As a matter of fact there was a post recently in the venomous forum showing a coral eating a corn. So I'm pretty sure you're trying to be funny. Let me tell you that you're not funny at all.
Trevor
Trevor, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Without constructive criticism from you and other comedic critics, it would be impossible for me to grow as a comedian or as a person. Keep up the good work brother! Travel the world over and tell people they are not funny at all, as your opinion is what is used to gauge all comedy.

[fatboy]

That coral eats quite well. We attempt to house other species with it all the time and he enjoys the variety. He's really not picky, he'll corns, copperheads, browns......list goes on and on.

[JoeBradley]

That coral eats quite well. We attempt to house other species with it all the time and he enjoys the variety. He's really not picky, he'll corns, copperheads, browns......list goes on and on.

Fatboy,
I am pretty sure you are trying to be funny. Let me be the first to tell you that you are not funny!!

[SCReptiles]

Barry, I think tonight we should attempt to house Joe’s baby canebrake with the coral and see what happens.

[marisa]

Or maybe get some people who actually agree with you for your information instead of running around this forum with your gang of "forum followers" to back you up constantly.

Marisa

[JoeBradley]

Chucks posts: 1001
Joe's posts: 127

Glad I could be there for you Chuck.

[marisa]

Someone has to be.

Marisa

[fatboy]

Marisa can you whine anymore? If you didn't notice the first post by Chuck included our names so figured we'd chime in. Your just mad cause you're not a "forum follower". I'd hate to live without being able to laugh and have no friends.

[SCReptiles]

Barry is right, you are a huddled mass of festering negativity that seeks to suck the enjoyment out of life for everyone. Why don’t you try doing something more productive like raising funds for the Democratic National Convention?

[BoidKeeper]

Chuck if you want to post feeding pics in the venomous forum go for it, I have no problem with that. But in this case it was done in very bad taste. The original post was demonstrating something bad that occurred and was intended as a warning and you made light of the situation. Whether you like it or not what you did was inappropriate. I love of the rest of you guys came to his defence. Nice to see there's still loyalty among certain groups.
Trevor

[bigxjake]

i house 2 ball pythons together they are about 1 3/4 feet they are brothers they live together for now they are about 8 months old they dont mind each other they both are fat and eat with no problem i will put them in their own enclosures ina few months but as for now i dont see a problem with it sorry for theloss but that looks like a stupid thing to do especially when one is bigger then the other

[marisa]

Yay o.k. guys I have no friends wow how clever you are!. Chuck I didn't have to go "recruit" people when I realized no one was agreeing with me. I don't have a team of lackies behind me so I feel tough enough to diss out insults to nice, educating members here all day.

My posts towards you are negative Chuck because you bring little to NOTHING to ssnakess.com IMHO. You have about TWO informative posts per week that don't insult someone, try and make yourself look tough, or are sarcastic. THe rest of the time you and your "team" of people are rude, and gang up on anyone who disagrees with you. And let me tell you its more people than you know that wish you would just LEAVE. If tomorrow you came on and were funny, helped people out, were somewhat NICE then things would change. But as it is now you are the most big headed, ego maniac on this website except the only thing with you is you have literally nothing to offer but disrespect to for the rules (which i myself am now breaking by calling you "ego maniac" I realize) disrespect for moderators, and you treat anyone here who doesn't work with you like GARBAGE. Frankly I am completly sick of it. if no one will say anything then I will. You treat everyone here like CRAP.

Almost everyone I talk to on here has a sense of humour and I love their jokes, I love the way we can joke on ssnakess.com and have fun...mostly everyone is awesome about it too. Except you. Because instead of balancing it out with a dose of education and friendly-ness and maybe some respect for other members, you offer nothing. Literally nothing.

Boidkeeper pointed out the OBVIOUS. You came into the CORNSNAKE forum, into a thread meant to EDUCATE and ruined it with your normal "look at me I am a cool guy with my lost puppies behind me" act like you ALWAYS do. Like Boidkeeper said, go post your photos in your own thread on the VENOMOUS forum. What you did WAS inappropriate and had literally NOTHING to do with the topic. The SOLE motivation of your post was to stir up ****.

Marisa

[BoidKeeper]

Well said and I couldn't agree more.
Trevor
(edit)
Except for the name calling I missed that part. lol

[paolo]

Sorry to her that bro. But good thing your out here telling everyone about your experience. Hope people read this and learn.

[Aaron_S]

I found Chuck's post funny and I am not one of his "lackies". He lightened up a serious situation...sometimes its good to make a joke in a serious moment,it might relax some people.

[Shane Tesser]

Im finding it increasingly difficult to read posts and not find the same ppl poking fun at other members time and time again. I have remained up until this point very quiet. I havent attacked as its not my style. But i am here, right now warning those who think they will interupt constantly that it will not continue to happen on this site! If you feel the need to constantly use humour in every post, please come into chat at your leisure and ill let you make fun of me. Some ppl take great offence at things such as posting the pic of the coral eating the corn. Then again, some ppl take offence at a spelling mistake. I think everyone needs to just calm down and do what we do best...help one another.

To chuck and his so called team. I can see the humour in the pic. I know it is somewhat related to the topic, but its just a bit bad timing i think. Personally it doesnt bother me, but then again i didn't lose a corn. For some ppl the loss of a snake like that is a very big deal...its a pet that they have loved and put time and effort into. So lets show a bit of compassion...sure it might try to make lite of a serious situation..but as you can see, some ppl dont think that way. As for the democrat joke that we keep seeing...come on..some new material please. For those of us who are in the majority..who are Canadian...that joke makes no sense as we have a totally different parlimentary system then you do...so really your not bothering anyone with it..its just kinda stale. Just my opinion.

Marisa. Youve obviously been upset for awhile thus the explosion. I have followed the threads and replies by both yourself and chuck and friends and i know its both sided. I know your upset...infact everyone on the site knows lol, but lets calm down and regroup. On the board is not the time nor place for name calling..and this is directed to chuck and friends as well as you are both guilty of it....Marisa was just more vocal today. I think if the two parties still want to continue this silly battle, then do it on your own terms...off the site..so that the other members of the community can carry on.

From here on out i want to see no more carrying on by either party. Personal attacks etc will not be tolerated. If it continues..and dont think ill notice as i read all of your threads...then this problem will go straight to Jeff who is not as tolerant as i am in such matters.

If either party feels that i am being unfair, please feel free to email me : Shane@ssnakess.com and we can discuss it further, and ill moderate a solution if its really needed. If you feel the need to reply here on this thread and quote me etc, please do so in caution as i have just about had enough of the silliness. If your going to try and attach one moderator on here..your choosing the wrong person if you think its me.

To the other valuable members of the site, i have chosen this thread to remain up as opposed to moving it. I want all to know that such attacks etc will not be tolerated. I am not trying to make examples out of ppl....I just like many of you do not want this to go any further. Thanks for your time, and sorry for my negative tone today, as im sure many of you that know me realize this is not usually how i am.

Regards, Shane.

[SerpentLust]

*claps* Nicely said Shane ;)

I won't actually get into this because personally I enjoy Chuck's humour and way of wording things. However vulgar or inappropriate people may think.

However I also understand Marisa's points and the fact o the matter is that yes someone just lost a pet. I know I'd be devastated if someone let my King eat my Spotted.

So I'll just side with Shane on this one :)

Jenn

[JoeBradley]

A difference of opinions and strong feelings about certain situations is all part of having an open forum. Some people express themselves with humor, some with anger and some hold it in until they finally one day explode. It is all part of what makes this forum great. Anytime you have hundreds of people expressing opinions you are going to have disagreements and some harsh words. Mousekilla annoys Me, Chuck annoys Marisa and BW annoys Chuck. It all comes around in the end.
Joe

[SCReptiles]

But there is one thing we can agree on. Joe Bradley annoys everyone. =)

I didn't have to go "recruit" people when I realized no one was agreeing with me. I don't have a team of lackies behind me so I feel tough enough to diss out insults to nice, educating members here all day.
Umm, if you would do a little research, you would see that Joe disagrees with me as much or more then he agree with me.
I don't have a team of lackies behind me
Oh really? Are you sure?
Well said and I couldn't agree more.
Trevor

let me tell you its more people than you know that wish you would just LEAVE.
That is awesome. It means if I were to leave, people would notice. Most people could leave this site and no one would notice they were gone. I like having a lasting impression on people.
My posts towards you are negative
I am sure you meant all you said as an insult, but we laughed and had a good time while reading it. I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
If either party feels that i am being unfair, please feel free to email me : Shane@ssnakess.com and we can discuss it further, and ill moderate a solution if its really needed.
That is pretty cool of you dude, usually these get deleted. =) As always I am not upset or offended. As I have stated, no one forced anyone to read words on a computer screen. If you are hurt or offended by something, don’t read it. I don’t know what begat Marisa’s distain for me, nether do I care. If it makes her feel better she can vent on me all day long. And also Trevor can continue to criticize my humor if he likes. Perhaps he can one day get his own show on Comedy Central and he can earn a living telling people what is funny and what isn’t.

[Tim and Julie B]

Wow this was interesting. Personally I lmao at the coral snake gag. I hate feeding reps any kind of other rep but I know sometimes it is necessary. But I still find that funny. As far as the democrate/republican jokes the real funny part is that it is only a two party polical system. :D How can a nation of millions only have two different views on politics? :D TB

Simon as far as your original thread goes.....yes it does suck that you lost a corn but on the brighter side you might have lost two to starvation. I had a clutch of Ratsnakes that only one would eat, This may sound sick but I would have rather one ate the other and have two living ones then all but one dying. TB

[marisa]

You know what? Whatever. Let's pretend it had ANYTHING to do with my feelings towards corns being fed to corals. Like I even care about that. Missed my point entirely.

But ya. Whatever.

Marisa

[SCReptiles]

Ummm, whatever??? Now that is a strong argument. =) Actually, it’s a shame that I somehow rub you the wrong way. I truly think it’s important that the herp community be able to unite. Even as a whole we are still weak in numbers and political power, if we Balkanize ourselves, we become even weaker. Obviously you don’t like me. That is fine, some people have a hard time liking strong personalities, but the fact is people crave strong personalities either to like or to hate. Take this thread for example; the corn snake forum has two pages. No thread has ever gotten more then 500 views, and none have gotten over 200 views in almost a month. We throw in a little personality and this thread pulls over a 1000 views, most in the last 2 days. Doesn’t matter if you like me or hate me, I capture your attention! We need all types in order to be one strong unit. We need strong personalities to capture attention and we need other types of people to capitalize while we have that attention. I am sure you have an ability that we can use, let’s put this behind us and try to focus more on the big picture.

[SCReptiles]

Oh, and there was one other thing I wanted to point out. The rest of SCR has been referred to as my team or my lackies, that is not the case. We are one cohesive unit. Joe, Barry, Chris, David, or any of the other members do not work for me or back me up. We are on even ground. Since we are a group and of the same mindset we will often agree with each other, thus you will see a unified front from us, that does not mean either of us are lackies to the others.

[SerpentLust]

I love the personality speal :) So true, so true. Hehehe it's been a while since I've posted in one of these SCReptiles VS. (insert victim here) posts! Hahaha

But, he's shown me nothing but respect and constructive praise and criticism and therefore I have never had a problem, regardless of the strong personality ;)

Jenn

[SCReptiles]

You were not too happy with me when I wanted to house your ribbon snake with my coral. Ha ha. =)

[BoidKeeper]

And also Trevor can continue to criticize my humor if he likes. Perhaps he can one day get his own show on Comedy Central and he can earn a living telling people what is funny and what isn’t.
Chuck, what's you're point? Let me rephrase my original statment for you so it can be limited to include just you and I.
I personaly don't think your post was funny. I could care less if other people think it was or not. Nor do I care if anyone else cares whether or not I think you're post was funny or not. I'm not interested in anyone else knowing what I think of your post, I just want you to know what I think of your post. You don't like my opinion of your post so you start flinging mud because you know I'm right. I'm attacking your post but you're attacking me. Can't you deffend your postion with out resorting to childishness?
You say we need to stick together but it seems like your doing all you can to drive people away from you. I never suggested you take your idea of comedy on the road, I just said at this time and place it was inapropriate. Rather then deffend yourself like an adult you tease and make fun like a child.
Trevor

[marisa]

*sigh* I have so much to say and frankly the posts above were making me gag aside from BoidKeepers. And you all know I have tons to say.

BUT

Shane asked us all to stop this so we have to guys. :( if we don't and then our arguements, even against each other, why i or you are wrong, etc etc etc, will be wasted in a deleted thread unfortuantly.

Marisa

[Zoe]

http://www.funnypetphotos.com/g/pro/run.jpg

[Zoe]

http://www.funnypetphotos.com/g/pro/cute_kitty.jpg

[Siretsap]

I will admit the pic wasn't appropriate and what was even worse was what fat boy wrote after.

Chuck, everyone has an opinion, yours isn't always the only one that is right. And true I also find you always like to pick fights on the forum. I remember the time I wrote that the non-venemous snake incident wasn't the snake's fault but the guys who tought it was a venemous one. You went straight ahead to try and be a smart-***. I am 23, you are much older than me and I only found you acting childish on it.

I will not take part on this fight, because I respect you and know that you prob only do it for fun and don't really intend to criticise people all the time.

[SCReptiles]

Trevor, what are you mumbling about?
I'm attacking your post but you're attacking me.
When did I ever attack you? If I remember correctly I thanked you for your comedic criticism. And you say you are attacking my post and not me…ummm, did you say “the post or the joke or your sense of humor…ummm, well no. I think your words were “you're not funny at all.” Umm, let’s look at that. Contraction of you are. Now let’s look at “you” Used to refer to an indefinitely specified person; one. Seems to me your post was directed at me (the indefinitely person.) Regardless, I was not offended and I don’t think you can point out any specific attack I made on you. Fact is I wished you well, I even was hoping for you to get your own show. =) Now come on dude!

[SCReptiles]

I will not take part on this fight, because I respect you and know that you prob only do it for fun
This is an internet forum!!! EVERYTHING said and done here is for fun and enjoyment! That is the purpose of this. No one is earning a living here, everyone from Jeff, to the mods, right down to us are doing this because it’s our idea of fun. So of course I do what I do for fun. There is just no other reason!

[JoeBradley]

CHUCK, GET OUT OF THE CORN SNAKE FORUM!!!! FATBOY IS THE ONLY SCR MEMBER THAT SHOULD BE POSTING HERE.

[Siretsap]

Zoe, very nice pic of the dog there. Is it yours?

[Zoe]

lol no (mind you, i wish i lived in a place like that!)
Just thought it would lighten the mood :P

This is an internet forum!!! EVERYTHING said and done here is for fun and enjoyment! Whether I agree with you or not, you are offending some people by saying the things you do and posting the pictures you post. And whether your intention is to offend them or not, that is also regardless (unless it gets a little absurd, of course). If all is said and done in good fun, then you, too, must know the limits certain people have and try not to cross them. You must be aware that you ARE offending people by picking apart their posts, making sarcastic remarks (as funny as they are!), and posting pictures of corns being eaten in the corn snake forum (funny, but yes in bad taste), even if you aren't explicitely insulting them. Like when you told Trev to start a commedy club or something. Obviously that wasn't a direct insult, but you can't possible have expected him to say "Okay, I'll go do that, thanks for the advice."

Anyway, all that to say that it doesn't always matter who thinks you're smart or stirring up **** or useless on the forum or funny etc etc etc. Because sometimes you do need to tone it down, or it will seem that you are deliberately insulting people just because you can. You say if you get offended easily, don't read what offends you. Unfortunately, that isn't possible. Once you've read something and been offended by it, you can't unread it, ya know?

Zoe

[SCReptiles]

In reference to Joe’s joke, at a recent venomous photo shoot, Barry decided he would much rather keep corns snakes. =)

[jaybox_reptiles]

WOW that is horrible and crazy

[BoidKeeper]

Chuck I accept your appology.
Best wishes,
Trevor

[fatboy]

Yep that's right. I am also looking to join the CHH (Chuck Hurd Haters). I value my limbs and digits and will not be ridiculed any longer for being cautious. To the curb with you Hurd.

[fatboy]

And for Joe, you own one single venomous and house 3 sulcatas. Wouldn't you feel more at home on a Sulcata forum?

[SCReptiles]

Joe has officially left the SHHS (Southeastern Hot Herp Society) and formed his own organization, the SHHS (Southeastern Hard Herp Society.) He and BW will be focusing on stopping people from free-handing their turtles and try to explain to people that shelloids are an evil man-made manipulation and not true hard herps.

[fatboy]

I think if we are to continue it needs to be in the comedy forum.

[SCReptiles]

WOW that is horrible and crazy
I couldn’t agree more Jay, the whole idea of Barry keeping corn snakes is horrible.

[Simon]

This post was originally posted to warn others not to house two snakes together and what might happen when snakes are housed together.

So let's put everything aside and get back to the original topic. As Shane said, let it be and stop it with the sillyness that has been going around.

Okay back to the topic.
As I have promised here are the photos of the snake's pooing the other snake....good thing that it has passed it through alright.

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pdac17f3cd4adc7c0f339df81563d1bfb/fabeb48d.jpg">

Here is a more clear image on the snake poop....and you can actually see that it's not really that digested properly and you can still see the checkering of the other snake's belly....
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p490c745ddcf0262beeac47378988de75/fabeb486.jpg">

This is the tail portion of the snake (I think...at least it looks like it)
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pa7023db72767366be23f4aad43af9184/fabeb47d.jpg">

Have fun~
sorry about the gross pictures~

[fatboy]

Now that is truely nasty. Thanks for sharing though. Thanks, Barry

[SCReptiles]

Simon is right, enough of this foolishness! =) Wow, that is interesting. When the corals process corn snakes they come out just as fecal matter. No trace of the actual snake. I guess unless they are snake eaters by nature, their systems can not process them as food.

And in case you didn’t notice, we have a tendency to self-destruct. We just can not stop making fun of each other. Give us enough leeway and we will be so preoccupied ridiculing ourselves, we will have no time to offend others. Ha ha

[Jungle Jen]

Well at least it went through the correct way, instead of getting regurged. I hope the surviving snake does well now.

[asphyxia]

What is that muskie bait on page 4 doing in this thread,
We have another site for all things aquadic

Brian

[SCReptiles]

For the record, we are at 1500 views and growing. =)

[Shane Tesser]

Okay, so i get home tonight from a long day at work and i see this is turning into a comedy forum. I have now read all things that have been posted since i was gone and i would like to make some observations. Firstly, Marisa, thank you for abiding to my rules and not straying off. Your discontinuation of the silliness is greatly appreciated and im sorry if i had made you out to be a bad person in my earlier reply. I know this not to be true, and i think your a great poster who really contributes to the site. On top of it you have been one of the original members and a big supporter of ours since day one. Again thank you for your maturitey level.

To the rest of you. Im not going to name names, as im sure you can guess who you are. Im still seeing little jabs and pokes, some heavy sarcasm and general disregard for what i asked...and that was to stop. The use of quotes etc are still being used to mount personal attacks and ive about run out of patience.

Im going to be blunt now, something that i usually dont do...and to the fellow members of the site, im sorry but i have little choice, and i apologize that you have had to witness this thread.

After conversation with Jeff last night after my original post, i copied it and asked him his thoughts. It was after some discussion that he suggested that i handle the situation as i have been following some of you on here, your comments and your lack of disregard for other members for quite sometime. Within my powers on the site i have the ability to ban. I have only had to resort to this type of punishment one other time, and i unlike some ppl feel that a ban is just that...its permanent. From here on out the use of sarcasm, belittling, negativity and general lack of respect for other members will not be tolerated. I will ban you. And i will continue to ban all and any that follow your same quest to bring idiotic childness to this site.

When this site started, it was the goal of our admin to create a site that stays away from the foolishness that the other sites out there were known for. Once we met our goal, membership and love for the site became a place where alot of ppl now call home. I will not let a couple ppl ruin what we have worked so hard for. Whether its the time, the effort, the hours spent her, or doing shows, i know what it has taken as i have been part of it from day one first hand. I love the attitude and the ppl that make up this site, and its these ppl, the ones who post good posts, who ask good questions, and who truely love and respect the hobby and other members that i now feel that i have to stick up for. After being bombarded with emails after my reply last night, i now know what i have always known...that it is the general feeling of the members who also would like to put this foolishness to bed for once and for all. This i promise i will do.

If anyone else has any other suggestions or thoughts about my responses, please once again feel free to email me: shane@ssnakess.com. I will look at and reply to all emails one at a time. In the meantime i would like to caution for the LAST TIME, i am not joking, i am tired of this negativety...and at this point, im one Very angry democrat!

[JoeBradley]

AHHHH!!! ANOTHER DEMOCRAT JOKE!! (Sorry I couldn't resist)

[Shane Tesser]

Originally posted by JoeBradley
AHHHH!!! ANOTHER DEMOCRAT JOKE!! (Sorry I couldn't resist)

BANNED... Whose next???

[JoeBradley]

You made the Democrat joke!! So I guess if we disagree with your "personal assistant", have a sence of humer or poke fun we will get banned???? Watch out Chuck!!!

[JoeBradley]

I have made 134 post to this site. If you can find one that personally attacks anyone I will remove myself from the site.
Joe

[Matt_K]

Okay guys, i think its time we all just grow up and let this go.. Leave it alone now, if you guys/girls, have nothing to say directly about the topic that Simon orginally posted about, dont say anything or you will find the thread closed.. Thanks..

[JD@reptiles]

you wanna sell the snake? :D

[Siretsap]

I think she would get a pretty good price on e-bay.
even for the dead one
lol
so much junk on that. along with all the sweet things

[BoidKeeper]

enough of this foolishness! =)
Here here Chuck, sorry to let things get out of hand between us.
Simon, that pic of the fecal snake is terrible. I'm glad the snake made it.
Cheers,
Trevor

[Shane Tesser]

Joe...if you noticed...your still able to post...this is just an example of my seriousness to this matter. The democrat joke is a direct response to whom im wanting to take this warning seriously. The Shanes personal title is because she actually is on the other site..and it was carried over here.

[Simon]

Jordan,

LOL....did you mean the fecal snake or the canni snake? I of course threw away the fecal snake as soon as I found it...don't want parasites roaming around the canni snake right? About the canni snake...yes I am selling her. She's for sale of course...lol...tyring to get rid of most of my 'normal' corn snakes....luckily (sp) I was just talking to a wholeseller around an hour ago and he is willing to take all of 'unwanted' corns~ so that is good...at least I don't have to ruin the market price any longer and can stay with everyone's price~

Trevor,
Yeah I am glad that she made it. I really thought that she was a gonener....but now that she has passed the other one out I am really happy for her. Plus she didn't die because of over eating...so all is good. (LOL...I even tried to feed her yesterday...but of course she wasn't a bit interested in the pinky....1) she ate a corn...she should be full for a while 2) she only wants to eat corns? (this would really suck...) Hope she'll feed on pinkies for me~

[BoidKeeper]

I've heard of lizard senting, but corn senting is crazy!
Good luck,
Trevor

[SerpentLust]

You were not too happy with me when I wanted to house your ribbon snake with my coral. Ha ha. =)

Hey Chuck, you're welcome to the Ribbon. After a while of keeping him I realized I REALLY am NOT partial to them at ALL....but good luck prying it out of my best friend's hands...

And not to be mean or start any arguments, god forbid. But my personal views still stand that banning is a BIT extreme Shane...I know I'm but a lowly Venomous member...but still...

Jenn

[daver676]

Simon,

Thanks for posting all those pics. Some may be a little gross, but I have to admit, I've been waiting for you to post them. I just keeped thinking "I wonder.......".

Dave

[SCReptiles]

Shane and all the other moderators. Serious talk here, I am not messing around. I run 3 websites of my own and I work on the SHHS web site that gets something like 900,000 hits a month. I understand the amount of work that goes into working a site and I know what the payoff is at the end. The last thing you need or want is the peckerheads you are doing all the work for bluntly ignoring what you ask of them. I didn’t think I was being insulting to anyone (other then my group) after you requested we knock it off. I even offered to make peace with Marisa, but she blew it off. Guys, this is the best snake forum on the internet, bar none. It’s the only one I use and I really enjoy it, but I think you may have unrealistic expectations if you think forum users will not disagree and spout off at each other. I will admit I am quick to defend myself. I have belittled and insulted numerous people here, but if you take the time to review, you will find it was ALWAYS in retaliation. I have never attacked or been disrespectful to anyone unless they provoked it.

[marisa]

Stop bringing me into this.

I actually read what Matt_K said and what Shane said and I am trying to abide by it. If you people can't, which is obvious since you ignored both their posts asking to DROP IT, then please (and I am serious) leave me out of it. There is no reason this is still going on. Thanks.

Marisa

[Matt_K]

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