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ReptiZone
10-05-03, 11:48 PM
I was bord and saw a few Retic discutions coming out and I love all large constrictors. So I figured that I would state the way I feal about them and see what ppl think about it.

And if you think I am here to tell you not to buy one think again. Because if you wanted to hear that broken record just asked a of the first year expert and they will be more then happy to sing you that song..LOL.

when you here that they are big nasty monsters and that you should never have them. That is the advice of a verry disrespectfull newbie "first year expert" that would not know what to do with them selves if they were ever lucky enugh to see these works of art.

To me they are the best snake out there and you dont just buy them and feed them like it was a corn snake.

you can realy apreciat Retic's.
I might just be insane but they have a that look.. it is hard to describe. A Retic has heart that drives them to be what they are large constrictors that are built to kill and have a superb hunting abilty, unlike todays Burm's that is nothing but a shadow of a large constrictor.
you will never break a retic's spirit if you get out of line or one day you don't repect them or are just plain stupid with them they they will alwas set you strait. they are the best looking snake out there.

Sure they are not for just anybody but when a person takes all the proper precautions and set them self up nicly and has a Set procedure they can pull it off. A persson that dose get a Retic will see a whole new world of herping. No other snake will ever match up to THERE retic I say this because I am fealing it now I have a 7 going on 8 foot male suluwasie retic and he is one of the Retic's that gives Retic's a BAD name but I love him and nothing compares to him. I would trade alot of my collection but I would never give up my Retic's to just any one I would have to be able to see him when ever I wanted to and he would never go to a hobiest I would rater give him to a zoo if I ever had to part with him.

Any way do any of you share my oppinion on these BIG beauty's


P.S
If you dont own any or havent owned any I would like hear what you think about them but PLZ don't try to tell me I am wrong cause till you have cared for them you realy have no clue.

Marc Doiron

Aaron_S
10-05-03, 11:58 PM
I like the retic in the pic.

I do agree...retics are one snake to behold as the ultimate large constrctor to own. But that depends on your taste...some people prefer the afrocks or even consider a burm there ultimate snake.

I have heard scrubs surpass the retics when they watch you and seem to know things.

But back on topic...retics ROCK!

Solid Snake
10-06-03, 12:06 AM
retics are awesome snakes.... giant powerful snakes, yet they're really intelligent.

I've had one for about a week and i loved the way they looked but i didn't like the way mine was. He was a bit too aggressive for me. I will definetly own one of these guys in the future, i just need some more time with snakes now, im still a newbie in this.

retics rock!

Zoe
10-06-03, 12:07 AM
If you dont own any or havent owned any I would like hear what you think about them but PLZ don't try to tell me I am wrong cause till you have cared for them you realy have no clue. Well, do you want our opinions or not? Or do they have to be the same as your's because we are clueless and should just listen to what you say?

I'm not going to share my opinion because first I'm not 100% sure on what you're saying and second because you don't want it unless I agree 100% with you.

Zoe

mk-ultra
10-06-03, 12:15 AM
I'm not going to share my opinion because first I'm not 100% sure on what you're saying and second because you don't want it unless I agree 100% with you.

he just wants your opinion about them without saying that he is wrong i think its kinda clear

back to topic

I think they are amazing but they can become quite a handful when they reach full size . I own one right now and she is a mean girl . We can handle her but only when she feels like it otherwise she will try to scare us away and believe me it works lol :P But i think they are great anyway :)

Brodie
10-06-03, 12:25 AM
yea I agree Chondro Python...I have never kept and will never be able to keep them though...:( dam i love large pythons!!!!!!!

ReptiZone
10-06-03, 12:30 AM
Sorry Zoe maby It is not clear enugh MY bad PPl don't need to agree with me what I ment was that if they never worked with or owned one then they dont have the real experiance the real dish of hard core Retic in other words if there oppnion is just something they heard and have never rely experianced it there is no ground to say that I am wrong caus they just realy dont know. That is like me saying all hot keepers are freaks and they are crazy to be keeping vipers and stuff and I have never even sean a hot in real life let alone work with one.
In other words if a retic owner wants to debat me then I am all for it but I don't wana argue with some one that thinks they know what they are talking about.

sorry again I will be more straight forward next time.

Marc Doiron

Zoe
10-06-03, 12:34 AM
Ah... I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that if we've never owned one dont bother giving our opinion, unless it's your opinion, because we don't know sh*t.

Zoe

lol hey wait... i cant debate on the topic if i havent kept a retic? lol... okay... so i did understand :P

Burm41
10-06-03, 12:35 AM
i agree 100% with Chondro Python, i dont own a retic at the moment but im hoping to get one or work with one in the future and i would say they are the best large python im only a newbie too with snakes, but when i get more experianced ill love too own or work with retics.

PoiSoNouS
10-06-03, 01:43 AM
I just !!!!! LOVE !!!!! retics,
i am really sad about the one I own and cannot handle her,
the more I look at her the more I love their look, they are SO unique and SO beautiful...
they own all of my respect..

lilyskip
10-06-03, 07:22 PM
in all honesty, rectics really intimidate me. I think it's just sheerly their size, and that a bite from them could send me to the hospital. Burms are one thing, since they seem to generally be more friendly than aggressive, but my stereotype of the rectic is of a huge, snappy dude.

bebo
10-06-03, 10:07 PM
Chondro,
I agree with you on the beauty and joy of owning and keeping retics. We have a nice(my opinion j/k) collection of them, and like you; wouldn't get rid of them for anything. I can't quit being awed at our stripes irredescence, and jampeas pattern; or our larger ones growth. But my wonder is based on past posts by you. You have in past posts, talked somewhat negative towards them? The topic mainly being about handling them. You stated that you consider them mostly a display animal. I am just wondering how you have this opinion of them , then post how marvelous they are. How can you be so into an animal that you do not consider ideal in your eyes? Nothing personal first off, just this post is somewhat odd.

ReptiZone
10-06-03, 10:56 PM
They are a display Animal and shouyld not be handeld but to me My Royal Python is a display Animal.

I belive that reptiles are not dogs or cats and dont need me to internine with there lives other then keeping them clean, feeding them and giving fresh water.

But that being said I am also the kinda of guy that when I see a new snake I am like a 6 year old on x-mas morning I will handel it take a few Pic's and enjoy the breaf time I spend with it. But if you new me personaly it would be a bit easer to understand.
Like if were to visit your collection I would be all over the place and admiering your animals and acasionly asking for a few pic's.
But if you spend a week with me and My animals you will see that you would be aloud to handel anything you wanted to. But unles you ask I wont take the animal out because I dont like to caus needles stress to my animals.

You know as well as I do that a newbie LOVES to handel there snakes so I discurage PPl from geting Retic's for the perpose of handeling tham and try and "Tame" them.

If you want a big snake that is easy to work with get a BCI or Burm they are the shadows of a real snake.
But if you want a real snake that has a beauty that is
un-surpased and that will show you what they are made of and diplay there natural behaviore. Get a Retic.

But dont get a Retic to try and break it's spirit and make it like a Burm that lost almost all of there natural defencive instinc's If you want a snake like a Burm .Get a Burm

you see my point here
I picked my retic out if a set of 3 and he was the one that tried to tare my eye out so I baught him.

I am working to get a blood that I have sean that has the exact temperment and a Green Anaconda I hope it works out the way I want it too.

I hope this clearn things up a bit for you.

bebo
10-06-03, 11:26 PM
I gues I'll leave this one as a difference in opinions or outlooks i guess. One thing I will disagree with is calling a burm " a shadow of a real snake". My burms have as much personality as any other animal I own(including tics). Some with more or less of a degree. But otherwise I agree with some of your practices. But the subject was about a retics actions/personality, so we agree on that. :)

ReptiZone
10-06-03, 11:33 PM
Oh every one looks at a difrent species with a diffrent eye.
I still love burms but I think I have seen and worked with to many to appreciat them like I do retic's.

That is why I only have one burm and 3 retic's.

bebo
10-06-03, 11:47 PM
Could be. I don't think I can ever get outta burms. Tics are fun though for sure. Forgot to say, " Good looking retic" . I like the colors! Got any closer pics? BTW how big are your jamps?

RETICULATED
10-07-03, 12:17 AM
I am with you Chondro I love Retics and also think that they are one of the best looking snakes

James

ReptiZone
10-07-03, 12:21 AM
Well the down side is that retic was not mine and it is now dead.

My Jamps look 8 feet so they are probebly around the 6 foot mark.
I havent realy taken out the tape to them some time when I have nothing to do I will mesure my hole collection. The last time I mesured my suluwasie he was 6 feet but he has grown alot since so I will take a guess on 8.5 feet but I will be mesuring soon.
The rest of my animals are under the 5 foot marker. in a few weeks I will be taking every animal and snapping new pic's and recording the length then there will be a realy long thread about my collection.

Mike177
10-07-03, 01:08 AM
Let’s see where should I begin. first off I am still very new to retics, second off the retics I do own are not at all your normal big retic I just own 1.1 super dwarf jampea retics but in the short time I can pretty much agree with what your saying, in the short time I have owned retics I have noticed such a difference in them than my burm. You can clearly see the difference in attitude and such. but I am going to have to agree with Jim on "the burms are a shadow of a snake" I will say that generally speaking yes, burms are much more lethargic and layed back than retics and I have seen very few breeding facilities outside jims place, but when I’m at jims house I can almost look around in one of his rooms and see a snake and almost see the personality of each snake just by the reaction of the snake when you poke it or just look at it threw the glass. I know one of jims normal burms has got some major balls, I was on my knees looking at a snake and my a*s bumped up agast a snakes cage behind me and BLAM before I knew it there was a burm right behind my ready to kick my as* with nothing but a sheet of plexy glass in its way. But back on topic I can pretty much agree with most of the things you say. I think retics are butiful creaters and I would love to have a full sized one but I have no place to put something of that size. Now here is my opinion on “that retics are just display animals” Yes, handling retics or any snake for that matter is initially stressful but I try to put myself in the situation of the snake. As soon as the snake realizes you are not a threat to it they will (in most cases) calm down quite nicely in captivity but when you allow a snake to think of you as a predator every time you walk by would be stressful for the snake. Also (not that I am saying this applies to you in anyway shape form or fashion) but I think if someone goes out in search of a large snake solely based on its mean temperament they are probly over compensating for something else. I love snakes, mean snakes, nice snakes, killer snakes, and harmless snakes. And I think out of all the large pythons the retics ranks #1 in my book (although I love burms, so it’s kind of a tie)

NewLineReptile
10-07-03, 03:27 AM
I am also pretty new to Retic's "THANKS TO MARC" lol
and i think they are just awesome

Brandon

daver676
10-07-03, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by chondro python
But dont get a Retic to try and break it's spirit and make it like a Burm that lost almost all of there natural defencive instinc's If you want a snake like a Burm .Get a Burm


If this is your opinion of Burms, then don't you think retics will go down the same path because of their captivation?

ReptiZone
10-07-03, 02:34 PM
The day you buy a W/C Suluwasie Retic and break him into a Burm. Will be the day I win the 6/49 jack pot.

Yes in time, years of captive breading some retic's will mellow out a bit but nothing like the burms have. And to start that kind of project you need to find some one that respects them and does not fear them. and thows ppl are far and few.

jay76
10-07-03, 04:49 PM
To be honest, I never really paid attention to retics until one day when I was in the pet store and one of the retics had managed to get loose. I was captivated by his energy and the sheer power he was displaying... when I looked them up, I found out that that was only a baby!!! It's the only one I've ever seen, and he's still a handful. I hear he's bitten others before but I've had more luck than them so far LOL. He only comes out for maintenance and feeding... I'd like to get him out more often than that.

While I'll probably never be able to have one of my own, I'm always going to respect and admire them.

ReptiZone
10-09-03, 05:02 AM
They are a species to admire and I am sure that in like 5 years you will find your self with a retic of your own almost every one that get's captivated buy them end having one. they are a verry interesting species to watch and learn from. wether it be watching them swim or watching them eat it is all asome.