rbbon snakes

[crazyboy]

any one have good care sheets on theese because i ma actually be able to get 1

thanks

[crazyboy]

ne1 and i was also wonderin if it is better to put in a waterbowl or set it up as a half/half

[crazyboy]

does ne1 know about ribbon snakes

[Tim and Julie B]

You can do either. A half and half in great as long as you can clean it easily. Dirty water causes bateria especally in semi aquatic snakes. A water bowl works well for cleaning but doesn't look as nice so I would suggest figuring out what size of tank you are going to use take a couple of measurements and get a rubbermaid that fit into your terrarium. So when it is time to clean it you can just slip it out and wash it. Ribbon snakes are extremely fast so be careful any time you open the lid. A half and half tank is a great idea as long as you have proper filtration. It just looks great.

Here is a care sheet written by our very own Eyespy moonlighting on another site.......tsk.....tsk........

http://www.repticzone.com/caresheets/1.html

A simple Yahoo search will bring up all kinds of good info! Have fun and wait for the first time you get musked.......mmmmmmmm... smelly! :D TB

[Vanan]

What Tim said pretty much sums it up, although I'd just like to add the possibility of keeping ribbons in a naturalistic vivarium. We had one go very successfully until we had to get rid of them due to BC laws.

The idea behind it is to have the whole bottom filled with water up to about 2", then using egg crate (used for lighting) create a platform on 2/3 of the ground area for your substrate to sit on. You might wanna read up more about creating a good vivarium mix but my point is about the ease of cleaning. When the snakes poop in the water, I had a pump to pump the water over to the "land" area and the plants get some fertilized water. Poop water goes through the soil, get's "cleaned" out by natural bacteria and drip down into the water. It's kinda hard to describe but basically, you pump the water area into a soil area with plants. Natural recycling.

Argh! If only I had some designing program to show you what I mean.

[Vanan]

What Tim said pretty much sums it up, although I'd just like to add the possibility of keeping ribbons in a naturalistic vivarium. We had one go very successfully until we had to get rid of them due to BC laws.

The idea behind it is to have the whole bottom filled with water up to about 2", then using egg crate (used for lighting) create a platform on 2/3 of the ground area for your substrate to sit on. You might wanna read up more about creating a good vivarium mix but my point is about the ease of cleaning. When the snakes poop in the water, I had a pump to pump the water over to the "land" area and the plants get some fertilized water. Poop water goes through the soil, get's "cleaned" out by natural bacteria and drip down into the water. It's kinda hard to describe but basically, you pump the water area into a soil area with plants. Natural recycling.

Argh! If only I had some designing program to show you what I mean.

[Vanan]

What Tim said pretty much sums it up, although I'd just like to add the possibility of keeping ribbons in a naturalistic vivarium. We had one go very successfully until we had to get rid of them due to BC laws.

The idea behind it is to have the whole bottom filled with water up to about 2", then using egg crate (used for lighting) create a platform on 2/3 of the ground area for your substrate to sit on. You might wanna read up more about creating a good vivarium mix but my point is about the ease of cleaning. When the snakes poop in the water, I had a pump to pump the water over to the "land" area and the plants get some fertilized water. Poop water goes through the soil, get's "cleaned" out by natural bacteria and drip down into the water. It's kinda hard to describe but basically, you pump the water area into a soil area with plants. Natural recycling.

Argh! If only I had some designing program to show you what I mean.

[Vanan]

What Tim said pretty much sums it up, although I'd just like to add the possibility of keeping ribbons in a naturalistic vivarium. We had one go very successfully until we had to get rid of them due to BC laws.

The idea behind it is to have the whole bottom filled with water up to about 2", then using egg crate (used for lighting) create a platform on 2/3 of the ground area for your substrate to sit on. You might wanna read up more about creating a good vivarium mix but my point is about the ease of cleaning. When the snakes poop in the water, I had a pump to pump the water over to the "land" area and the plants get some fertilized water. Poop water goes through the soil, get's "cleaned" out by natural bacteria and drip down into the water. It's kinda hard to describe but basically, you pump the water area into a soil area with plants. Natural recycling.

Argh! If only I had some designing program to show you what I mean.

[Vanan]

Oh oops! Stupid page got jammed. Guess I hit Submit one too many times. :D

[crazyboy]

ok thanks still not sure wether i wanta ribbon or garter what would you pick

I did search yahoo but you cant always trut them becaus you never new who wrote them.

[SerpentLust]

I have a Ribbon right now...to tell you the truth, I don't like them much, I'm giving it to my friend tomorrow. lol

Jenn

[crazyboy]

yea im thinking about maybe a garter anybody have theese

[Vanan]

Garters tend to be easier to handle and easier to switch over to rodents. Mind you that not all garter ssp should be switched to rodents. My opinion is that only snakes which do eat rodents in the wild should be fed rodents. What I'm trying to say is, don't feed a slug-eating Northwestern Garter pinkys. Won't be good for it in the long run.

Ribbons are nice display animals, but garters make easier pets.

[crazyboy]

yea im aiming more tawards a garter thanks guys/girls

[crazyboy]

which garters eat fish

[Vanan]

Alot of them do. The main prey of most garters are amphibians and fish. Do some research on specific garters and find out about them. They are, as a group, one of the most interesting genus of snakes.

Recommended garter species are all of the Thamnophis sirtalis ssp., T. marcianus (checkered garter) and T. elegans vagrans. There are other less common species, but the common ones are easier to deal with with regards to prey item.

[crazyboy]

kk thanks would garters also be ok with a half/half enclosure

[Vanan]

Garters are less aquatic than ribbons, but as long as they have the other half dry and not moist, I don't see a problem.

[crazyboy]

ok thanks