Hey Chuck.

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

I was looking about on your site and I noticed two things. One was about the alligator in Texas, and since there are many stories about this animal I was just curious to why you are validating it on your site. Reasons why, me and a few friends came up with it being fake:
1) the light is shining on the wrong side of the gator.
2) no built up mud or drag marks where you'd expect from hauling such a large animal.
3) The man behind the gator should cast a shadow on it, but doesn't
4) the man's legs look blurry where they meet the gator in the image
5) there's a blur mark on the gator's back just left of the man's legs.
6) supsicious repetition of the pattern of the mudbank near the gator's tail
7) Shading under the gator is far darker than anything other shading in the pic
8) black tape looks suspiciously wide. like 5 inches plus.
And my Opinion that it's a fake, is the fact that there's only two pictures of the animal, A far one and a close up which could be from cropping the picture.
If it really was a big deal, especially in texas there would of been far more drama than one internet picture, and where is the alligator now? Noone seems to know. If you have more info. on this please inform me.
Also, I noticed you said most venomous as the caption for frogs.. Any reason for this?
Just a few curious things I noticed and had to ask.
Xain

[SCReptiles]

I was reading your post and noticed that you and your friends have way too much time on your hands. The reasons why me and a few friends came up with you having too much free time is that you and your friends took the time to analyze and notice:
1) the light is shining on the wrong side of the gator.
2) no built up mud or drag marks where you'd expect from hauling such a large animal.
3) The man behind the gator should cast a shadow on it, but doesn't
4) the man's legs look blurry where they meet the gator in the image
5) there's a blur mark on the gator's back just left of the man's legs.
6) supsicious repetition of the pattern of the mudbank near the gator's tail
7) Shading under the gator is far darker than anything other shading in the pic
8) black tape looks suspiciously wide. like 5 inches plus.
And my Opinion that it's a fake, is the fact that there's only two pictures of the animal, A far one and a close up which could be from cropping the picture.

I got the picture from a contact in TX who works in the reptile business. I had no reason to doubt it as they were not claiming it as a new record. It may be fake, I have not researched. It.

[GI Joe]

I was reading your post and noticed that I have way too much time on my hands. The reasons why I came up with me having too much free time is that I took the time to read both posts and notice:
1) the light is shining on the wrong side of the gator.
2) no built up mud or drag marks where you'd expect from hauling such a large animal.
3) The man behind the gator should cast a shadow on it, but doesn't
4) the man's legs look blurry where they meet the gator in the image
5) there's a blur mark on the gator's back just left of the man's legs.
6) supsicious repetition of the pattern of the mudbank near the gator's tail
7) Shading under the gator is far darker than anything other shading in the pic
8) black tape looks suspiciously wide. like 5 inches plus.
And my Opinion that it's a fake, is the fact that there's only two pictures of the animal, A far one and a close up which could be from cropping the picture.

Help me please!!!!!:D

[Geck-co]

hahhahahaahhahha way to funny!

[fatboy]

Now that I really look at it I think it is fake also. I think the record is true but I don't think this picture is the animal.

[GI Joe]

The list of folks with too much time on their hands is growing. :-)

[fatboy]

I hear ya. I didn't get it analyzed by the FBI, just looked at it for less than 1min. :)

[JoeBradley]

I did not have time to read this. Would someone take the time to tell me what this is about?
Joe

[Gregg M]

Look, we all must have lots of time on our hands if we pop in here all the time.....LOL......

[Mustangrde1]

I dont have any time on either of my hands , I do not believe in wearring a watch. It has a tendancy to take away from fishing and herping time.

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Yes we may, It also may be the fact that I as well as a few other people dig crocodilians and when a story like this comes at hand we may feel to take the time to critizise and analyze a piece, such as you did with the ball python in the hood posts. No difference. Also, the guy in Texas wouldn't happen to be Ryan, would it?
Either way, this pic has been circling around for some and for the record, if it were true it would be a record for Texas and would be somewhat outspoken being that it more than doubles the average size of the texas populations..
The record size holds true, but I know a guy in this line of field who doesn't believe it for one reason or another, but He's ********...
Scot, catch up to the times, the 40s are over.. heh.

[Mustangrde1]

Xain I never dispute you about crocs i know your background is impressive so dont dispute my time keeping methods. Fishing time is important and who wants to watch the the clock when having fun lol.and its the 1800's get it right lmao.

[John White]

I don't know the url of Chuck's website but I assume that the following picture is the one being discussed:
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/cnhc/18ftgator.html

The Crocodilian.com website hasn't been updated yet, but the "official" measurement of this alligator is 13.5 feet.

John

[SCReptiles]

we may feel to take the time to critizise and analyze a piece, such as you did with the ball python in the hood posts. No difference.
Can’t agree with you there. When that ball python pic was mailed to me, I knew it was a fake within 10 seconds of looking at it. If it had required me to analyze the shadows, I most certainly would not have taken the time to investigate. =) So, in light of you comments yesterday, I went back and asked if it had been validated. The consensus is that the picture is real. It was taken in FL and the gater is somewhere between 13 and 14 feet. I’ll make the corrections to my site next time I update. You may want to take up your “8 reasons the pic is fake” with the good folks over at the University of FL. And why did you put this in the venomous forum instead of the croc forum. Did someone claim this giant gater was also venomous? =)

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

John, do you know who gave Adam the validation of the pic? I emailed him, sometime ago on it but he never got back to me. Chuck, you had to of analyzed it either way if you decided it was fake, even if it only took 10 seconds..
Can you give me the information from the people who is validating this? I'd like to know first hand as well and discuss it..
I asked this here because I knew you visited this area, and I was't sure if you went to the croc fourm, so Im just saving time and asked where I knew you would be.
Scot. Im sorry.

[John White]

Sorry, I do not know to whom Adam spoke.
The photo itself is unremarkable. Obviously there are alligators in Florida and while 13.5' is a large one it's of no significance (other than being an awesome creature!).

[KrokadilyanGuy3]

Thanks, I'll just wait for Adam's reply.. Also, I agree.. I just have alot of doubt because of all the stories Ive heard and the places the pic was said to be taken at. Thanks anyhow.