2pac Shakur

[xxbad]

2pac is one of my favorite rappers tell me what you think of him

[murph]

I don't mind some of his songs, but I do know that Sylvester Stallone, love him or hate him is writing and directing a movie based on the death of Tupac and the scandals behind other rap artists deaths...as far as I know it'll be called Thugz Lives. Should be interesting?!

-murph

[BrandonVeenstra]

Ah, I dont like it. I was the lead protester who wrote in large letters (in snow haha) accross a large wall in the neighbourhood "Tupac is dead;Live with it" Lots of uprise since I live in a good neighbourhood located beside one of the worst. So many hispanics and so on were quite angry. Oh well, I dont enjoy rap so I cant say I like his music

[Solid Snake]

I love 2pac!!!!!!!!!!!!

u know how people love him so much they remembered about his 7 day theory... Well its 2003! But i dont think hes alive.

[ChunkyMunky]

He was alright i guess, one of the least obnoxious rappers.

[T.O-SK8TER]

I don't like him because his rap was created for women to listen too!

[Brock]

RAP IS CRAP

BAHAHAHAHA

-Brock

[mykee]

He's been dead for what? 7, 8 years?! And he's STILL releasing singles? That's talent.

[Matt_K]

better yet, doing colabs with other dead artists :P

[OttawaChris]

If he wasnt killed nobody would remember his name today.

[snakelover111]

2Pac is pretty cool :D

[Skink Keeper]

I love Tu Pac! I even have the poetry book he released, i don't think he's alive but i still love his music.

[marisa]

I don't agree with "if wasn't killed no one would remember his name"

It may have been different here in Canada but I was raised in California and Tupac was a HUGE artist there. No one, even my parents, woud be able to forget his name. It's household there even people who don't like rap would remember.

Marisa

[Matt_K]

I agree Marisa.. Its kind of hard to forget the name of an artist who made such an impact on the music industry. Its like people not remembering Flava Flav or Public Enemy as a whole, and they're still alive..

[BAZ]

As a rapper he had a lot of talent. I respect his talent. As a person he was obviously not a role model or someone I think kids should look up to so I don't really respect him as a person.

[red bootz]

He had alot of talent not just as a rapper but as an artist. I think he went out of his way to personify what being poor and black in America was. By doing this he could gain credibility among his peers and get them to listen to what he was saying. Kinda like, you got a be a thug to to talk to one and get them to understand. Not all of his stuff was like "hit 'em up". Take the movie "Juice" for example. Its a movie about a basically good kid that due to forces around him goes nuts. I think that's part of the message he's trying to convey. That without changes in social structure, things are always going to be the same and that you're gonna keep turning out the same type of situation from the inner cities generation after generation.
"instead of a war on poverty
they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me
And I ain't never did a crime I ain't had to do
Now I'm back with the facts bringin it back to you"

[tHeGiNo]

My opinion is that he was a great rapper and he is still alive somewhere. I mean wtf there are 10 thousand things which make me believe this. First off, how is he wearing fashions that just came out in his music videos? LoL

[Matt_K]

are you talking about the video that he's wearing the Jordan's?? They were set to come out 3 months after the video was made.. But do you really think that people like him didnt have access to those things before the public did??

[mykee]

Oh, and I saw Elvis working at the Subway in Tweed...........

[katev17]

Honestly, I don't think I can have an opinion about him because I don't know ANYthing about him, or his music.... or rap music, for that matter.... But I do know this:

I don't like him because his rap was created for women to listen too!

That's a HORRIBLE thing to say! I'm not even an equality enthusiast, and that's just lame. Maybe that's joking or sarcastic or something.... or there's some kind of 'tupac..q?' inside joke there, but I don't get it if there is...

Oh sigh...

:rolleyes: Kate :rolleyes:

PS - How come he's allowed to come back to life? That's not fair... :( I'm jealous.

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by mykee
Oh, and I saw Elvis working at the Subway in Tweed...........

LMAO, i thought i was the only one who knows where Tweed is.. :)

[Lisa]

Tweed isn't far from here.

I miss the elvis from the bloor annex.

[tHeGiNo]

Matt, that too but there was also one where he was wearing a recent basketball jersy or something in the line of that. If you want to get into a full discussion i can tell you all the reasons why I strongly feel he is alive.

[tHeGiNo]

Ok I am going to tell you why I think he is alive whether you want me to or not, lol. For the record, I am not a big rap enthusiast or a gangster or anything like that, lol. I like his style of rap, and only those similar to his today. By that I mean like 50, Snoop Dog, Enimem, then their whole crew. Thats about the only rap I listen to. Anyhow, to start with, and I am only going to mention this vaguely, information on the shooting was little to none. There were no hospital photos, no nothing to put it frankly. In a lot of songs as well, he mentions wanting to be buried. Then why is it that they say he was cremated? Possibly to hide the fact that there was no shooting causing him death? Oh and directly related, since when is a murder victim creamated the very next day with no autopsy or anything of the like? If that isn't bad enough, press wasn't going to be allowed at the 'funeral', but then the funeral was cancelled. The reason for it being cancelled still hasn't been determined. My last point about the actual shooting itself is the following: a shooting involving Snoop occured really close to the release of his album Doggystyle. After this of course he had that image of being real 'gangsta' and made him appear more 'real.' The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. Interesting don't you think? I mean it's really stupid, this was a big rap idol, yet there was no investigation, no suspects, no nothing. Oh, I know I said that was it as far as the shooting goes, but there was one last point: as you probably know, Tupac always wore his bulletproof vest. Wouldn't it be stupid to not wear one to a huge public event like a Tyson match? Oh and otherthing. The shooters were in a white Caddy. They were black. There is only a small black community on the North side of town. This strip is only about eight blocks long. Vegas is a freakin desert, where could they have gone? Where did they hide? I know I keep saying its the last thing but I keep remembering other things as I go on. Pacs car got hit 12 times. Twelve times yet Suge Knight (the producer of death row records) was not hit once. Oh wait I forgot, he was 'grazed' by a bullet.

Ok now enough about the actual shooting itself. Tupacs soon after released another album which he named Machiavelli. He was an Italian war strategist who fooled his enemys by faking his death. Coincidence? The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply named as "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON? Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it has written: "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. And Matt, with reference to the MJ shoes, your right, however in the same video he is wearing Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death! Ok so I am sure any 2Pac enthusiasts who are taking the time to read all this have seen the music video "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli. The video beings by showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! Then you hear garbled words and then they show Makaveli up posing as Jesus Christ again. That's twice! Once on the album and now in this video. Finally, my last point, there are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up throughout his albums and throughout the facts of his death. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.: "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." Pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album, the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too. The album "R U Still Down?" was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! Honestly, what is with this? Las Vegas is a freakin payoff city. All sorts of people have been known to be on the take. This includes doctors, press, lawyers, witnesses, etc. Oh I forgot, there were no witnesses...

[Solid Snake]

Excellent words gino! i to believe he will come back.

I took this saturday (13th) off just to see what will happen!

Hes coming BAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mykee]

Matt, Tweed is great, the fire hydrants, the Chip Truck across from the Petro Canada, the Live Bait vending machines in the grocery store parking lot. It's a great little............hamlet. I go through, and stop in Tweed every year on the way to our cottage in Pembroke.

[Matt_K]

Awesome Mykee. I have about 10 uncles and Aunts that live out there and a few cousins.. I guess you could say the whole population of Tweed is related to me.. lol..

The Gino: The last i heard, there were Autopsy photos.. Anyway, here's something else for you to play with.. Scarface did a song with Tupac, two months After Tupac died, the video was made, in the video you see Tupac standing over his own grave with his hands on his forehead :) Just some fuel for your theory... Let the man rest in peace is what i say..

[xxbad]

No one would remember his name what you talkin about boy.

Bill oreiley says all rappers go away in 10 years tupac has been rapping for about 10 years. He will last for a lot more time also.
I mean who hasnt heard of tupac i only 5 people out of all the people i know dont know who he is and one of the kids i asked didnt know any celeberties names he didnt know who jim carrey was.

Created for women? Never heard of that buddy. Where does it say that. He directs some his songs directly to men.

Look at this i made this thread yestarday and its huge already sweet

[red bootz]

"How long will they mourn me?"

[xxbad]

The gino im sorry but i have some stuff that can prove you wrong i have seen a hospital photo wait a lil while and ill give you the website the picture might have been removed becuase it was never supposed to leave the place it came from.
And he was shot twice one in the leg one richoched into the his right lung and they removed his right lung and he had a 50/50 chance of living But he could stull be alive but i doubt it man.


RED BOOTZ man you are cool. I love changes i love the quote instead a war on poverty they got a war on drugs so the polic can bother me What he was meaning there the cops were bein stupid like say yopu have a tumor instead of gettin surgery you take an asprin but you probly knew that,

Changes is my favorite song of tupac

EVERYONE A GOOD SITE FOR TUPAC www.hitemup.com

[xxbad]

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/tupac-shakur.jpg

there we go baby shows tupac in the hospital Very sad picture i mean its very sad you once you look at it you see how sad it is.

[HeatherRose]

Dude, that's lame...this is a family site....

Tupac Sucks. *looks around for where the real music ran off to*

:O

[xxbad]

you suck man or some power puff person lol.

Tupac is bigger than anyone you listen to probly everyone else here seems to like him your get out voted if tupac sucked why did he have 8 #1 selling cd's? why was he the biggest rapper ever

What you said was stupid real stupid

[HeatherRose]

:| not really, because I don't listen to rap, 'cause it sucks...

*runs from the rocks being hurled her way*

[T.O-SK8TER]

When I said his music was made for women he explains his theory in an interview, his music was targeted towards women so that the men will listen to it aswell.

[mykee]

Wow, you are so wrong, there are SO many rappers who are "bigger" than 2pac.

[xxbad]

like who nelly isny 50 isnt flavor flav wasnt eminem isnt dmx isnt ice cube isnt who?

[HetForHuman]

Well isnt there a 2pac message board somewhere on the net?
if hes as big and as good as you say he is then there must be.


this message board is about reptiles, not 2pac.

[xxbad]

if you cant tell this is in general disscusion i have posted threads on reptiles

[Bryce Masuk]

Music is all about perspective So Dont knock any of it besides those who are merely Hot chicks who lip sync.

Tupac Is one of the few Rap stars where is music isnt Purely about drugs and Killing people. Alot of it has a message to it mostly to women and about women unlike alot of the other idiots out there Imo.
He wasnt really popular untill after he died And most of the stuff Being put out now is his old stuff that wasnt good enough to be put out back then but whatever. He Did what he did well Music's inspiration comes from whats around you and your life and thast what he did and he did it well

[killaclown]

Tupac was great but there was and will be greater but one thing i didnt like about him. When the west vs east war broke out he dissed anyone that was kickin it or seen tallking to biggie and puff. And when they wanted to settle the beaf they said no and kept on dissin. The man knew he was goin to die just listin to his music but when you lived the life he lived you either ended up in the grave or the cage. And to any of the rap haters ya can stop hatin and start respecting the art of hip hop. Nobody disses rock out of no where like that. If some one made a thread on metallica no one would say i dont like them cuz rock sucks. We all know why people dont like rap and its a really crapy reason not to like a type of music.

MCL Cameron
S.S.S. sorry so sloppy

[HetForHuman]

Originally posted by killaclown
We all know why people dont like rap and its a really crapy reason not to like a type of music.

MCL Cameron
S.S.S. sorry so sloppy

What are you tryin to say man???? I dont hate it for the reason that your thinkin.

i hate it because it all sounds the same to me and it is boring music IMO.

And whatever, ill be the first one to say that Metallica has alot of ***** music as well. pretty much everything after the black album sucked.

So dont try to say you know why we all hate it.

[snakemann87]

Im not big on rap.........Hard Rock, Punk, Hardcore, Viking Metal is my style

[mykee]

Remember, for all those gangsta's that thought they invented rap from the 'hood; rap was started my old white guys with cowboy hats and a mic tellin' everyone to swing their partner round an' round. Think about it. Square dance callers=Original gangsters.


Anyways, everyone can have their own opinion as to what they think is the best 'music' of all time, but why get so worked up about it?

[crucified]

ouch.. everything after the black album sucks? Load and Reload are damn good albums... metallica took a different step which is GOOD cuz we dont need all their albums sounding the same.. everyone sounds different and its GOOD and yes i really like the new album.. at least they didnt end up like slayer... EVER slayer song sounds the same.. every album too... now i guess this is turning into a metallica and not 2pac post.. thread.. haha

[fanmaninacan]

Hey

I love 2 pac, I think his songs r great,

Hes 1 of the few rapperes that put thought in most of his songs,

Its sad he died..I dont think punk Pornstar had any right sayin he sucked "im not a fan of PUNK' But u dun see me telling ppl it sucks.. Thats just wrong, Music is personal choice ..effects the mentality, behaviour, cloths n everythin about us.... SO JUNDGING LIKE THAT IS BEIN ~ALMOST~ rascist

JUST my 2 cents

T.P

[KingFfaj]

ok, this is what happend to Tupac, he faked his own death and moved to a small iland to live with Elvis, Jim Morrison, Kurtd Cobain, Jimmy Hendrix, Freddy Mercury, Biggie, Princess of Wales-Diana, Cid Vicious, Richie Edwards, Janice Joplin, Aerton senea, John Lennon and maybe Buddy Holy, Richie Valins and the big bopper. Its true, i've been there.
Please feel free to add to this list as i'm sure there are more living therethen i have listed (its a big place).
Only two conditions, they have to have been famous and not liked the public eye, and they have to be .. "Dead" wink wink;)
o>

[red bootz]

xxbad,

That quote isn't necesarily aimed at the cops being stupid. Its more of a criticism on society in general.

[Beardonicus]

2pac was and is one of the most influential musicians ever....period. I love rap, hip-hop and rock. He is one of my favorites because of his ability to make diverse music. He wasn't "fake" and alot of his stuff had positive messages in it. You can say you don't like a certain type of music, I understand that, but don't knock what others like.

[tHeGiNo]

The last i heard, there were Autopsy photos.. Anyway, here's something else for you to play with.. Scarface did a song with Tupac, two months After Tupac died, the video was made, in the video you see Tupac standing over his own grave with his hands on his forehead Just some fuel for your theory... Let the man rest in peace is what i say..

Matt, call me stupid but I am not sure exactly what the meaning of that is. As far as that hospital photo, I am sure that is the one that was proved as a fake. Give me a day or two and i'll show you. There were no autopsy photos, none that I've seen nor heard of. I think there are way too many coincidences for it to be a coincidence.

[Siretsap]

I don't like rap, but I still do not judge the person. So if he was good at what he did, then he accomplished what he wanted.

[tHeGiNo]

Oh and punk, this is a reptile site, but last time I checked this is the general forum and last time I checked every post in the general forum is not directly related to reptiles. Also, just because you don't like a certain genre of music, that doesn't mean it sucks nor does it give you permission to say it does. Rather, it does not suit your preferences. No need to be outright and rude like that...

[Tim and Julie B]

Originally posted by OttawaChris
If he wasnt killed nobody would remember his name today.
Sorry absolutely not true. Tupac was one of the most influential artists of our time. He was one of the first rap artists to go multi platnum. He inspired the whole west coast movement. Absolutley 100% people would still remeber his name. If not for the simple reason his family is still releasing his music.

[tHeGiNo]

A couple more things. First off, and what I meant to say, I do not know if you have some kind of super vision that I don't have but to me I can not make out that that is Pac in that picture. That could be any black guy as far as I am concerned. And a few more things to ponder in your head. I urge you to download the song God Bless the Dead, from 2pac of course. His very first words are "rest in peace to my mutha ****** biggie smalls..." Whats with that?

[Dozer]

To say rap sucks isn't really all to nice. Some people live their lives to that genre of music, and just 'cause you dont like it, keep it to your self. We dont want to hear "YOU CANT SPELL CRAP WIHTOUT RAP" or any other things like that. If you dont like it, fine, I'm not here to preach, just dont speak of it, we didn't ask you if you liked it or not, and if you dont have anythin' logical to put down, then dont waste our time.

Just my two cents...

[xxbad]

tupac dedicated a sing to biggie thugz mansion.

Gino what do you have to say about that autopsy picture?

And whoever said tupacs songs were mostly about killin ppl you are so wrong.

and redbootz i know its not all named at the cops but a little of it is and if you didnt know this tupac has a strong dislike for the cops

gino you know why there wasnt a huge investigation on tupac

The cops didnt like him either they just said he was another black male with an opinion. Thats very tragic

[TheRedDragon]

I'm not too big of a fan of his, I like one of his songs. I rarely listen to rap, I'm more of a metal chick. ;)

[tHeGiNo]

I am saying that autopsy picture isnt necessarily TuPac. It doesn't necessarily look like him and could be any black guy with the same body shape. Maybe the cops did hate him, but that does not justify everything else.

[Matt_K]

Gino: IM not saying he's alive or dead one way or the other.. There were 'autopsy' pics floating around, but as you said, they could be fake. As for the scareface video, it was made AFTER Tupac died, yet Tupac is in.. I was stating points for both sides :P

Also, just because you don't like a certain genre of music, that doesn't mean it sucks nor does it give you permission to say it does. So lets not argue over what kind of music is better then which, we'll be here for ever. Every genre of music influences the next..

His very first words are "rest in peace to my mutha ****** biggie smalls..." Whats with that?

Im not sure of your point there, are you saying he killed Biggie??? Its well known that Biggie and Tupac hated one another, there is no arguing that... But if you're saying that cause tupac started his song that way he was someway directly related to the death of biggie, you're wrong. That would just be stupid of him.. Eminem has a song that starts off 'this song is dedicated to the memory of Eric Shrodie'.. Does that mean that if Everlast (Eric Shrodie) turns up dead tomorrow, Em was the one that killed him???

[xxbad]

lets no argue on music we already have that in another forum which is name thos tunes which isnt supposed to be about arguing if you want to argue about rap make a forum yourself about it

[tHeGiNo]

No, my point is that biggie died exactly one year AFTER Tupac ;) Sorry thats why I was confused. It seemed like your point was debating for him being alive still, yet I thought you were saying he was dead, so I confused myself lol.

[xxbad]

he died exactly a year after? very weird

[tHeGiNo]

Wait, I don't know if I meant to say exactly. I don't think it was exactly.

[xxbad]

o ok but he died like in the same week or month

[killaclown]

Originally posted by fanmaninacan
Hey

Thats just wrong, Music is personal choice ..effects the mentality, behaviour, cloths n everythin about us.... SO JUNDGING LIKE THAT IS BEIN ~ALMOST~ rascist

JUST my 2 cents

T.P

Umm... bingo we got a winer

those are good words

[xxbad]

ya that is a winner.

Lets get pack to 2pac anyone have a favorite movie so far i have heard about juice a lot

[xxbad]

also what is your favorite tupac song mine is changes

[xxbad]

if i buy a 2pac album which one do you think i should get?

[xxbad]

!

[HetForHuman]

Go buy all of them and then you can listen to them over and over, and leave us alone.

[xxbad]

man are you stessed or somethin shut up go make your self feel better somewhere else

[David Kwok]

I ain't mad at cha!

[xxbad]

thats an album isnt that a song? I know a lot about tupac but the weird thing is i only know this many cd's all eyez on my makaveli and tupacs greatest hits so i aint mad at cha is an album? cool

[xxbad]

well we had fun seems like this forum is dien down it had a good run most forums dont get this much reply's but if you wanna keep talkin about him i would love it

[Matt_K]

2Pacalypse Now
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.
Thug Life - Volume One
Me Against the World
All Eyez On Me (One,Two)
Makaveli - The Don Killuminati

[xxbad]

those are his best albums im thinkin about makaveli should i get that one?

[xxbad]

CRAP i went to buy a 2pac cd and they are out everywhere i found his better days cd but it was $21 and it was edited i dont like edited.

[xxbad]

i used to think people who thought tupac was still alive were kinda bein stupid but once you read about it he could he could have planned his death MAKAVELI means to fake your death in italian that seams a little weird

[CDN-Cresties]

MAKAVELI means to fake your death in italian

I dont think it does, Makaveli was a philosopher. Anyway dude. lets end this. Tupac is a good rapper, end of story.

-Steve-

[xxbad]

your thinkin of makavelion or someone like that. iknow his name wasnt makaveli somethin similiar to it though