Post your Pastel pic,s :)

[honduranfreekk]

This is the little male Pastel I picked up from Markus.I just love this little guy and he is growing fast :)http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/954fuzzy_pic_but_look_s_good-med.jpg

[honduranfreekk]

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/954kels_snakes_061-med.jpg

[honduranfreekk]

The pic,s turned out veryy dark I really have 2 get a good cam he just look,s brown andin person is sooooo much brighter???http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/954pastel_male_he_is_getting_big_lol-med.jpg

[Solid Snake]

how do i tell from a pastel and a normal?

[mykee]

Solid, a pastel is exactly what it says it is, it has more pastelly yellows and oranges than a normal ball. it also usually has a good deal of blushing also. Another way to tell a pastel is the head , it has a purple-ish tint to it, and the eyes are silvery. Look in my gallery to see a beautiful example of a pastel jungle.

[mykee]

My two pastels, pic was taken a few months ago. http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1004pastels2-med.jpg

[mykee]

Here is the male alone, in shed, he is approx. 700g now. http://ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1004pastelboy-med.jpg


And the female, lounging, she is over 1300g now.http://ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1004pastelinalounging-med.jpg

[Ron]

Here is my pair:

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/568pastels.jpg

Ron

[Clownfishie]

Damn -- I LOVE pastels :D Keep those pics coming!!

[TheRedDragon]

Wow, you guys have some real screamers there! I love the pastels. :)

[honduranfreekk]

Verryyyy nice Ron and Mykee they look great. Mykee what cam do you use???? The one I took the pic,s of is not much good it makes him look brown and not yellow and will not show what he really look,s like butt your pic,s look great.

[lilyskip]

i love em, Ron!

[striko_69]

Hey guys, anyone know what morph of royal python is on the cover of the ball python manual??? it doesnt say, and i love that one!!!!

anyone?

[Invictus]

I honestly can't believe the price on pastels. I dunno... it seems to me to be a LOT of money to be paying just for a python that's a little brighter than its cousins. Now Piebald.. THAT is a morph worth paying for.

[honduranfreekk]

You are right in a way Invictus but they are much brighter than a normall and the true gole for most is the Super Pastel now that is Bright ;)

[mykee]

Honduran; thanks for the compliments, I think that Graziani's Line iis, by far, the most spectacular line of pastels out there. The cam I use is a Canon PowerShot A40. It was taken under natural light, on my Dining Room table. Striko, the morph on the cover of "The Ball Python Manual" looks like a pastel of some sort, not sure though..

[NiagaraReptiles]

Originally posted by Invictus
I honestly can't believe the price on pastels. I dunno... it seems to me to be a LOT of money to be paying just for a python that's a little brighter than its cousins. Now Piebald.. THAT is a morph worth paying for.


You managed to answer your own doubt within your post ;)

It's the combination of Pastels with other known genetic mutations in which the Pastel can/will only make them better. Being an incomplete dominant morph (not sure if it was the first proven incomplete dominant morph?) surely helps keep the price tag higher as it can produce the trait visibly in the first generation, unlike most of the other commonly known morphs that follow simple recessive inheritance......

The future of ball pythons is going to be crazy ;) Check out <a href="http://www.newenglandreptile.com/">NERD's website</a> for some examples.

All of this in mind, the value of Pastels started out just as high as the rest, but has come down and will continue to come down a lot faster than say Albinos or Pieds :)

[Ron]

honduranfreekk,

Thanks, I've always liked Pastels.

Invictus,

Piebalds are great but I don't have a spare 10K to get one. I bought my pair of Pastels mostly for the purpose of producing a Super Pastel.

mykee,

I agree that the Graziani line of Pastels are the best "normal" Pastels but I think NERD's Lemon Pastels are far superior.

[mykee]

Ron, I also think that they are beautiful, but way out of my league. I feel that they are in a different class than the Ruppels, Bells, Grazainis, Gniadowski, NERD. But for the pastels that most people can afford without a 2nd mortgage, a Graziani is the way to go. I'm terrible biased however, since I have 2.2 of Graz's.

[Ron]

mykee,

Lemon Pastels aren't completely out of reach, when you produce a Super from your 2.2 you can sell it and buy a top quality pair of Lemons.

I too believe that the Graziani line is the best despite the fact I have a pair of NERD Pastels. I intend to buy a pair of Graziani Pastels and keep the 2 lines seperate.

[Jeff_Favelle]

I'm not sure what line is best. Check out Corey's posts of the NERD line he hatched this year and they are right up there. All the lines are spectacular. In the future, because all the "lines" are compatible (unlike ghosts and axanthics) there will just be "Pastels". No line-stuff. But they will be graded, for sure. Much like Jungle Carpets are now. But the line stuff will disappear as they are all the same genetics.

Graziani "line" from MJ:

http://members.shaw.ca/gallerya/pastel1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallerya/pastel%20016.jpg

[mykee]

Jeff; gorgeous, I agree with you regarding all the inter-breeding of the pastels that one day, they'll all be the same. But not mine. Also, Corey's snake is beautiful, but I've seen a few pics of NERD's pastels as adults, and they are, quite honestly, less than impressive. I'm stickin' to my Graziani's (both from Greg and Mark) and will not 'weaken' my bloodline with a different colour variation. I also want pastels that still look like pastels once they hit 1500g's.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Yeah, there are some Pastels that look normal-ish as adults. For sure. But if you want the cleanest Pastels, you're going to have to breed Super males to the best-looking female normals. Regardless of the line(s) you have That's the way to do it. Its going to be fun to try though eh??

[Corey Woods]

Jeff,

Hopefully I'll be able to do that this year.

Corey

[Jeff_Favelle]

Its the way to go man. Its going to be more and more fun every year to work with Supers and multiple-genetic animals as each clutch will have more morphs and we can see faster results! The Supers are just the tip of the iceberg eh??

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

EVERYONE:

Damn gorgeous Ball Python Pastels there all.

1 day I shall have some I think, hmmmm.

Cya...

Tony

[Invictus]

Tell ya what. Produce a BP that feeds as readily on prekilled prey as a corn snake. I'll pay $1500 for that!! :D

[Ron]

If you own a BP you have to accept the fact they are going to go off feed once in a while. I have a few that have never refused even when I offered food every 2 days. I also have a few that go off feed for 4 months at a time and they always snap back without losing much weight.

[Jeff_Favelle]

I LOVE that they go off of food. Less $$ for me. I have literally hundreds of snakes right now. I wish they would ALL go off food.

[Clownfishie]

LOL -- that's only true when you actually give up on trying to feed them though Jeff ;) I'd much rather be spending my money on food that my snake actually EATS, than food that I defrost only to have them refuse it and I have to throw the stupid thing out (as my BP forced me to do yet again last night... grrrr... lol ) ;)

[Jeff_Favelle]

That's the joy of having sooo many snakes (plus the monitors) Jen. There's ALWAYS another snake waiting to eat, so NOTHING gets wasted.

[NiagaraReptiles]

So, if I'm hearing you correctly Jeff............your solution is to get more snakes.

hmmm, your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Heh heh...I think we all subscribe to the same newsletter man, ha ha ----- insanity?

[HetForHuman]

Originally posted by Invictus
Tell ya what. Produce a BP that feeds as readily on prekilled prey as a corn snake. I'll pay $1500 for that!! :D

ok ill sell you my male for 1500.
hasnt refused a meal in the 1 year ive had him.

[honduranfreekk]

Insanity is a great thing tho Jeff hahahaha ;)