Not COOL!

[Jo060]

Hey, can anyone tell me please how to kill a living rat 4 my BP? I tried the "Pencil Trick" on a Pinkey and that wasn't cool AT ALL!!! Its tail ripped off and broke its front legs!:eek:
Thanks!

[Pixie]

I put mine in a miniature sized pillow case and give them a good whack on the toilet bowl.

Cervical dislocation was also a disaster for me when I tried...

Pixie

[Snip3r]

Thump them REALLY hard in the head...from behind...it'll stun or kill the mouse...its what I always do

[Big Mike]

Just put it in a bag or sack...and whack the bag against a hard surface.

[Kyle Walkinshaw]

Grab the mouse or rat by the tail and whack its neck on the edge of a hard surface. Instant kill. When Ive got lots of mice to kill, it's simple and painless to just whip them at the concrete floor in my reptile room. Seems kinda cruel but theres no suffering, another Instant kill.

[snakehunter]

i use hemostats to choke them, and crush their spines! it sounds cruel and probobly is , but i would kill a hundred mice for my little girl!
-Jacob

[burmer]

I use the pillow case too, it works great.

[Wraith]

I use two methods. If you are just doing one at a time Kyle is right.... nothing like a good whack. Quick and painless. But if you have a lot to do nothing beats the dry ice method.

[sapphire_moon]

Why not try F/T????

[krrc]

if it's a small one, well even an adult mouse you can just flick it real hard in the head that will do the trick. rats take the pillowcase method

[Pia]

What's dry ice and how do you use it to kill rodents?

[Solid Snake]

Originally posted by snakehunter
i use hemostats to choke them, and crush their spines! it sounds cruel and probobly is , but i would kill a hundred mice for my little girl!
-Jacob

hearing that makes me really angry and makes me sick.i dont like seeing anything suffer, i just put it in a bag and whack it really hard. why go through so much just to kill a rodent for your snakes?

I personally will never enjoy killing these little guys. when i purchase them and look them in the eyes sometimes makes me wanna cry. But i gotta do it... and quickly.

[sapphire_moon]

No one answered me......why not f/t??? Does your snake refuse f/t??? And I TOTALLY agree Solid Snake.......I never feed live unless FORCED to. as in a non feeding snake..

[Solid Snake]

saphire... some Bp's like it fresh...

[lilyskip]

Pia--dry ice is a special kind of ice that sublimates...that means that it doesn't melt, it goes directly from a solid chunk to evaporating into a vapor.

It releases CO2 gas, which can be used to kill rodents by suffocation. Within about 30 seconds, they go unconscious. It is a quick and painless death. To do this, you put the rodents and the dry ice in an airtight container, and wait.

[SD-SNAKE]

Why not try F/T???? because I breed my own rats. I would have to kill them to freeze them, plus I think my roomate would not like frozen rats in with the ice cream and tator tots lol. All I do is grap them by the tail and strike them on a hard corner aiming about neck area. take care Nick

[mango]

I don't kill our rodents and hopefully won't have to anymore since she took a f/t mouse wednesday but my fiance thumps them. We haven't started on rats yet but I imagine we will use the bag or pillowcase method. I keep one alive but when we get live mice sometimes we just put them in the freezer in a baggie and they are dead soon after and that we don't have to see them.

[Jo060]

Yeah, I do the freezer method to the pinkies. But I kinda feel bad for older ones because the freezer freezes their blood and crystalizes (sp) it! :(

[raebug2000]

unfortunately ( or fortunately depending on who u are) we are all into exotics..... and whether we like it or not they require special needs. some of us have adapted those special requirements to our needs/tastes. however, to each his own, there isnt a wrong or right about it.
some of us feed live ( like myself, strictly supervised of course so no one but the prey gets hurt) some do FT some do FK.
however, i myself KNOW and understand that pythons ARE predators, just like house cats. They maybe be our babies or friends but they still have the instinct to hunt and devour. It's their nature. Its what they were made to do!

This came in to distinct clarity when the mouse I HAD in my kitchen met my ball python on the kitchen counter. ( i had put him there for a moments to soak and so on....the curious mickey soon had his curiosity satisfied and thus Osiris ( my big boy! ) made himself a better mouse trap than i have ever spent money on. :bugged:

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

JOE060:

Sorry but I only feed frozen thawed so not much help here.

You can ask the mouse or rat to simple play dead while the snake take a shot at it........lol

Sorry.

Cya...

Tony

[Jo060]

Hey Tony, I never thought of that :) I'll try it... lol

raebug2000: Thank you and I might add that was very well written :) Thats pretty cool about him catching that mouse.
Joe

[Solid Snake]

Originally posted by mango
I keep one alive but when we get live mice sometimes we just put them in the freezer in a baggie and they are dead soon after and that we don't have to see them.

it takes mice 12 hours to die in a freezer and rats 24 hours... Its a slow and painfull death.:grumps:

[Linds]

Originally posted by Jo060
Yeah, I do the freezer method to the pinkies. But I kinda feel bad for older ones because the freezer freezes their blood and crystalizes (sp) it! :(

:eek: Ouch... its a long, painful death for any rodent, no matter if its a day old pink or a full grown rat. For mice, pinky rats and small fuzzies I use a ziploc bag and wack them, for anything larger I use a pillowcase. Can't use cervical dislocation on pinkies as you've discovered.

[reptilesalonica]

I made up a jar with 2 holes upon the lid. From these 2 holes comes out 2 hoses. One hose goes to the bottle with CO2 and one hose goes to a bucket with water.
I put the rodents in the jar, i secure the lid and i open the CO2 bottle. CO2 flows into the jar without any risk of explosion because the extra CO2 goes to the backet with water and NOT outside to the room.
I have a photo but it's home, now i'm at work. I can post it later.
~Greg~

[MouseKilla]

Must agree about the freezing thing, that is the slowest way, though I don't know how painful (who knows, right?) The other danger is that the bigger guys, particularily rats, may tear their way out of the freezer bag if they aren't fully and totally dead. I've seen a rat I thought I had killed stand up and walk around in a cage several minutes later, you don't want that happening in your freezer especially if it also contains your food. I don't waste my time killing pinkies myself, they are no threat to any snake and they break apart so easily and make a big mess for such a little thing. Older rats need to be killed before you do anything with them, in my experience. I find swinging them by the tail hard to be accurate with and the bag or pillow case is sort of clumsy so instead I hold it by the tail and crack it on the back of the head, right at the base of the spine preferrably. I use a piece of 1x2 that's maybe a foot long or so. Be as accurate as you can be while using a good hard swing and follow through, hesitation will only prolong the agony for you and the prey. If you do it right it will kick a few times then stop moving. I've found that this may not mean it's dead but if your snake takes it soon after the prey will be incapacitated for long enough. If you miss hit however it can make a real mess so I recommend going outside or in the basement or hold it over a box, and don't wear white.

[MouseKilla]

hahaha that thing sounds like a bloody rat bong to me! I wish I could see the picture but this archaic Mac I'm using won't allow it for whatever reason so I only have an imagined visual. Reminds me of being a teenager. My friend once built such a smoking device out of an aquarium with the fish still swimming around inside. I'm sure it was tasty, I wasn't gonna go near it myself. If you build one of those rat jars I would strongly suggest you don't inhale.

[reptilesalonica]

Mousekilla, after all those posts for killing, killing and twiching and wachking...you must have the MouseKill Master Degree...:D
As for the Jar works fine for me.
Probably your friend was not so handy man ;)
~Greg~

[MouseKilla]

Well I can get the job done with my very unsophisticated piece of wood to the head method though I prefer to feed live when I think it is safe to do so. As for my friend in high school, he was very handy indeed but his goal was to kill his own brain cells, not animals. I think the fish lived as I recall. Maybe the same thing would work for rats, who knows? Get them really high and they'd be too lazy to defend themselves. I could try to track my friend down and have him modify your design so that you can replace CO2 with some stinky Canadian green stuff.

[KingFfaj]

i feel sorry for the fish, i made my friend drink some bong water for a spliff once, he was sick quite badly.
Also there is really only two ways you should be killing rodents, CD (the best) then a whack two the head, unless you can make that device then dry ice is not practicle for most of us, and the bag method is not very accurate, and you cant tell where the rodent is hits the floor.

[LurkerAccount]

Originally posted by mango
I keep one alive but when we get live mice sometimes we just put them in the freezer in a baggie and they are dead soon after and that we don't have to see them.

So what your saying is that you don't care how much they suffer as long as you don't have to see it, thats pretty sick, if your too lazy to kill them humanely, you could at least drown them....

Must agree about the freezing thing, that is the slowest way, though I don't know how painful (who knows, right?)

Rodents are mammals and feel pain to the same extent we do, if you don't think its painfull, go inside your deep freeze and tell us how long you can spend in there before comeing out.

[daver676]

No doubt. Freezing an animal to death, no matter how small, is just lazy, inhumane, and cowardly. Take some responsibility and do the job right. Jeeez!

:medangry:

Dave

[Lisa]

Originally posted by KingFfaj
i feel sorry for the fish, i made my friend drink some bong water for a spliff once, he was sick quite badly.
Also there is really only two ways you should be killing rodents, CD (the best) then a whack two the head, unless you can make that device then dry ice is not practicle for most of us, and the bag method is not very accurate, and you cant tell where the rodent is hits the floor.


I find dry ice quite easy, both to obtain and use. to obtain it, just look in your yellow pages, lots of places sell it. to use it, take a bucket with a lid, fill with rats. put dry ice into a delicup filled with warm water, cover delicup with a lid that has holes in it put delicup into the the bucket and cover with the lid. wait 15 minutes, put rats in baggies and freeze.

No blood, no guts, no sore arm.

Here's a pic of my set up. Does it get any simpler?

[mark129er]

Adding warm/hot water to the dry ice speeds up the sublimation process considerably. Not very much water is needed, just enough to moisten the ice.

[MouseKilla]

Or just buy one of my whacking sticks. Made of light weight, space age polymers and dishwasher safe. Only nine-nina-five. Sorry no COD's. Send cheque or money order to: Rat-Splat c/o Northern Reflections 1800 Skagway Avenue, Missisagua ON. Or call 1-800-DEADRAT

[daver676]

Mousekilla,

Do I get a warranty with that? lol

Dave

[tai_pan1]

I've found that the quickest and easiest way is for me to just bite their heads off. The rodent dies quickly and I get a little snack! Why should my snakes have all the fun! LOL!
JK folks. No nasty PM's please.

Mike

[MouseKilla]

Daver,

It's a life-time warranty! Labratory wear tested for over 1,000,000 whacks. There is also an attractive wooden model which is my signature series.

[MouseKilla]

Oh yeah, I say save the dry ice for a heavy metal concert. Rock on!

[Jo060]

lol