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Neo
08-10-03, 03:42 PM
about how lazy do leos get. cause my biggest one is 7.5 inches a few months old and eats fine. Recently he's just sitting out newhere. today he's been sitting out on the cool end outside of a hide. I can touch his tail, stroke him, and pick him up w/o him moving most of the time. Is this just laziness or is he sick or something?

peregrinefalcon
08-10-03, 04:07 PM
If he is eating fine, then there is probably nothing wrong. It might be less active because it is on the cooler side, warm=active for leos. Another reason is the tank size, leos are WAY more active and healthy in larger cages, so you may want to up your cage size.
Hope this helps!
Adam

Tim and Julie B
08-10-03, 04:54 PM
As leos mature they do appear to be more lazy. Truth is that at that age they are more comfortable with their surroundings and become used to handling. Basically, your leos know who you are and that you aren't a threat:D That's what makes them such wonderful pets!

Neo
08-10-03, 06:59 PM
thats good to hear

LISA127
08-10-03, 08:18 PM
leo's do get lazy as adults! mine always do. as adults, they barely even work to chase the crickets!

peregrinefalcon
08-10-03, 09:48 PM
I do not agree with you guys saying that leos are more lazy as adults, mine is just as hyper as the day I got her, if not more. She does chase down crickets very quickly and she even wiggles her tail before pouncing just like babies :D I am curious what size tanks you keep yours in, because I think that a leo will be more active and healthy in a larger cage.
Adam

Neo
08-10-03, 09:51 PM
neo stays in a 15 gallon w/ another leo bigger than 6 inches (havent measured her in a while).Plenty of hiding space but they prefer sleeping together neway. the cool end is like 82 (room temp at my house) and the hot end goes to like 88-90. The hides are in the mid so there's pretty big open spaces on the sides

LISA127
08-10-03, 09:53 PM
trust me Adam, it's just your leo. Most leo's, as adults, make a half hearted effort to catch crickets. mine does. every leo i ever had got lazier as an adult. The least lazy of all of them was a female that was always on the smaller side. My bigger females all got lazy. Right now, I have one female in a 20 long by herself.

Mr. Gray
08-10-03, 10:03 PM
lol you have confused me and neo. I am adam, he is jason. :)

Neo
08-10-03, 10:05 PM
theres another adam i think. peregrinefalcon. :P

LISA127
08-10-03, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by peregrinefalcon
I do not agree with you guys saying that leos are more lazy as adults, mine is just as hyper as the day I got her, if not more. She does chase down crickets very quickly and she even wiggles her tail before pouncing just like babies :D I am curious what size tanks you keep yours in, because I think that a leo will be more active and healthy in a larger cage.
Adam



this is the adam i am referring to - sorry!

Neo
08-10-03, 10:16 PM
sry guys, he's 6.5 inches i looked at ruler wrong.. thx adam.. raleigh.

Samba
08-10-03, 11:13 PM
I personally think a vet check is in order... leos should at least react when touched. I would get it checked for parasites and keep the leo warm. May not be anything signifigant, but worth looking into.

LISA127
08-10-03, 11:37 PM
mine do react, Samba. Altho tame, if I touch them on the back and they weren't expecting it, they get startled and move forward at least. so I agree with you. Even tho they are tame, an unexpected or prolonged pet on the back should elicit a response, i think.

Alicewave
08-11-03, 08:13 AM
They DEFINITELY get lasy as they get older regardless of tank size. Seneca lives in an enclosure by himself a bit bigger than a 20 gallon long size and I practically have to feed him right off the tweezers. If an adult Leo spazzes out it's not necessarily enjoying the larger tank size, it could very well mean your Leo is stressed. I had Murtle in a 20 and she ran and hid every time I opened the cage. When I moved her back to a 10 she stopped doing this. She just seems to prefer a smaller tank size.

peregrinefalcon
08-11-03, 11:05 AM
Well, I keep mine in a 5'x2.5' tank. Alicewave, she definetely isn't stressed out and doesn't spazz, she is always walking around the tank looking for extra crickets or just exploring. Whenever I wiggle my fingers by her hide opening she comes out with her big cute eyes looking around. And when I put some crickets in she runs all over the place with her tail wiggling, it is hilarious. I moved her from her 35 gallon tank because she was always trying to climb up the sides and never seemed to be happy. As soon as I moved her in to the 5x2.5 she has been overall healthier, brighter, and seems happier. I don't know what she would do if she was kept in a 10 gallon tank or a shoe box.
Adam (yes thats my name lol!)

Alicewave
08-11-03, 12:49 PM
Ok I was just checking because Murtle seemed more active in the 20 but she ended up not eating. That's when I realized she was stressed and moving her down to the 10 she returned to normal. I guess it depends on the gecko. 10 is plenty of room for 1 adult though.

peregrinefalcon
08-11-03, 01:24 PM
Yea, I guess it does depend on the gecko. I think people should at least let their leo live in a larger tank for awhile, just to see if they like it more then a small one. Afterall, we all want our leos to be as happy as possible, right? :D And I do think an adult should have at least a 20 gallon tank, but thats just my opinion.
Adam

Neo
08-11-03, 04:21 PM
i up'ed the heat source so it goes bout 5 degrees higher in the hot end. and i gave neo a handling session again. he was way more active and trusting. i held him on my hand at eye level and closed one eye and he did the same. it was great. he changed pooping spots on me again but it'll pass as usual. i thought bout it more and i think the problem might've just been the need to shed.