Question on price

[ANIMAL5051]

i have just moved to florida from ohio. i went to the pet store that my mom always shops at and the had a baby gtp and she/he was priced at $449.99 to me that seem kinda low they said the have had it for awhile but most of the gtp i looked at are $800 to $1200. i was wonder if i should question getting it because of the low price or am i wrong and is that a normal price.

thanks jim

[Clownfishie]

No, that's not a normal price. I wouldn't buy from a petstore unless it's a store that you trust not to sell wc/imports... it's just not worth it. The animal might be cheaper, but by the time you pay for the vet bills to get it into the same healthy condition as a CBB animal, it's usually more expensive -- nevermind the stress and heartache that you'll have gone through.

Bottom line -- save your pennies and get a baby from a reputable breeder :) As long as you don't want a high end morph baby, you should be able to find them for $600-1000...

[ANIMAL5051]

that is what i thought but im researching the gtp before i buy one i dont want to rush into to just buying the the first one i find. i thought that might be cheap but they said the had it for awhile so i thought they my have drop price but i think i will wait and look and research some more not ready just yet for a gtp but i do want one they are so nice looking
thanks for the responce jim

[Clownfishie]

NP ;) Just for future reference, it's GTP, not GTB :) They're Green Tree Pythons, not Green Tree Boas. There are Emerald Tree Boas (ETBs) which are very similar looking, and tend to be a litlte bit cheaper...

[ANIMAL5051]

that was my mistake i did mean (gtp) i fix my posts

[Christine]

I would not buy a GTP that cost as little as $500. Chances are it's a really poor quality animal, probably WC or farmed. By paying going rate for a normal from a breeder ($850 for a hatchling, I think) you can be much more sure that you are getting a quality CBB animal.

[reverendsterlin]

I'm of two minds here, is it eating f/t mice? parasite treatment is easy and cheap, but getting WC on mice is a real pain. If it looks good AND eats f/t mice np, for that price I'd get it and a fecal and save $200-500. If I ever thought I could get a WC mandarin to eat I'd spend the $50 for one or two, but since I doubt I could I'll keep drooling over the CBB ones that are $400. BTW even if they say it eats, I would still want to see that for myself. There are many healthy LTC's out there. Remember that the GTP Damon Salecies got from VPI was a WC import and produced the world's first known albino GTPs.

[Julian Garcia]

Rever, I can point you to a few friends of mine who have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on W/C GTP's. I would not suggest anyone new to consider aquiring a W/C Chondro, as once these guys start to go down hill it is very difficult to turn them around. If you are looking for a nice "Starter" chondro. Robert Hill has a nice pair of Aru type chondros that he is letting go for 500 each or 800 for the pair. I would also look to contact John Mack (reptiles by mack) as he also has a few clutches he popped out from an OS pair for 5-800 dollars.

I don't think its a matter of saving money, as 1. supporting passionate breeders. Remember the quality, beauty, and follow up to your CBB animal are going to be outstanding when compared to a W/C animal. Most CBB chondro pythons come with data cards, liniage charts as well as a life time of FREE advice from your breeder. 2. There is no need for supporting WC animals as you are supporting people who view these animals as a dollar figure and once the item is in your hands the deal is done. They could really care less about how you chondro does after the sale.

Chondros are not for everyone, but by no meens are they difficult to keep. But i encourage anyone who is looking for a first, second, or third chondro to ONLY consider a CBB animal directly from the breeder.

This is true that Damon did recieve his Albino pair from VPI as a WC animal, this was also a long time ago. There is an abundance of color morphs and phases to choose from. There is no need to support Money hungry breeders and brokers.

[reverendsterlin]

first Damon got the parents and hatched the albinos, bob and tracy would never have sold them if they had them, second many if not most large breeders have numerous WC and continually get more. Second I didn't recomend he get a wc, just suggested that they are not 'always' bad. Third we don't know that this animal is a wc. Make your suggestions on the forums just as I do, but if you address me personally do not talk down to me, after 35 years in the hobby I do know a few things.

[Julian Garcia]

Rever, my appoliges if that came out as "talking down to you" as it was not meant to be in the least bit. I am very familar with Damons animals, I must have just typed that down wrong.

I feel that people are very quick to attack people personaly on many forums. So in turn alot of people have there guard up. This is the main reason I do not like posting on other forums besides Chondroweb.

You do make a good point however that large breeders do have some wild caught animals in their collection. My advice was not directed at you but more of a general statement to "newbies" trying to find "cheep" or "bargin" animals. I do however know some well known people who have spent thousands of dollars on a W/C chondro and have it die a year or 2 down the road. So with that said, my advice to anyone looking for a first chondro. Is to stay far far away from w/c and or farmed animals.

I replyed to you personaly because you were the last person to post, and the last persons post that I read. My post was meant to address the body of this thread and not you personaly. I am not aware of who you are or your years of experience, so in no way would I want to start things off on a bad note.

With that said, this will be my second and last post on ssnakess.

Play nicely people!

Julian Garcia

[Linds]

Julian,
I read your post the way it was intended. WC GTP should only be left to the most experienced GTP keepers and breeders, as they can be quite the challenge. They should especially be avoided if you wish to cut the costs, as you will end up sepdning more on vet bills, etc. and many do not make it :( Sorry to hear this is your last post... sSnakeSs is generally a closely-knit community, very personal unlike most other forums, and attitude is minimal to none in most cases. This is why we are ranked number one... we work hard to keep it that way. Again, sorry you had such a short stay :confused:

[reverendsterlin]

Julian and I have contacted each other and hopefully solved this little misunderstanding. I have pleaded with him to stay and share his knowledge, hopefully he will (I just emailed him a bit ago so no response yet). He is right about both attacks and guards in many forums and I assured him that is not the case here on ssnakess and I hope our little mistake puts he an I into the start of a friendship (yes I do know there are better ways to make friends lol) because he seems to be a stand up guy. I do really hope he will continue to stay and post.
Rev

[Julian Garcia]

Thanks Rev and Linds,

Rev, I did not get your email. But that you for the post. It was a missunderstanding and im glad we can all be friends now. I think i'll explore this forum a bit more. Hopefuly everyone will be as nice as the 2 of you have been.

Thanks again for the kind words. I look forward to sharing photos, ideas and advice with you both!

Regards,
Julian Garcia

[reverendsterlin]

lol, I emailed it through the email button on your profile Julian I have no idea where that sends to.