How big do burms they get?

[DrunkShadow]

How big (weigh/length) do burm. python get? What the avarage size of one? I have a ball python but like the burmese python.

[Zoe]

they get 20ft+ and 300lbs+.
NOT a snake you want to get unless you have years of experience and are prepared for a potentially huge snake that will need his own bedroom and bathtub.

Stick with smaller stuff for now :)

Zoe

[NewLineReptile]

Zoe is right there they get to be monsters...lol
i have a few burm's and my oldest one is 2 1/2 years old at 14ft here are some pick's on what you would be in for

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/1639cbj.jpg
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/16393_burms_1.jpg

here are there size's and age to give you a idea

Normal 14ft 2 1/2 yrs
Green 10ft + 1 1/2 yrs
Albino 8ft 13 mounths give or take

[BoidKeeper]

Those are great burms! It's obviouse your feeding them the way they should be fed, good for you. I once saw a burm that was 4yrs old and smaller then a BCI. Keep em cold and keep em hungry, the cry of the neglectful burm keeper.
Great snakes congrats!
Trevor

[LadyHawke]

Those snakes look even better in person!! i saw them a little while ago...they are simply beautiful......i still want ur albino..lol

[DrunkShadow]

Wow, burms are killers. i didnt know they get that big. Wow im surprised. they are beautiful, and i love them a lot, but im not experiencd in snakes so ill wait a while. Any other kind of suggestion for a new snake? I have a ball, but want to get another snake. Are boa's good or do they bite. any help?

[Zoe]

Boas are great! Some species stay as small as 2ft, others 4-5, and others 10ft. They are usually quite tame (short of ETBs and ATBs).
You could also look into carpet pythons.

Zoe

[LadyHawke]

i have two 8 foot boas, they are great, when they go on parties i get about 8 kids to hold it while they get their pics done, and the snakes don't mind as long as your gentle with them! i wouldn't reccommend doing something that would make them wanna bite you!!

[Zoe]

Yep... that's the first thing I tell kids who hold my snakes is to act like a tree.

Zoe

[DrunkShadow]

How big do boa's get (length/weight) ? Are they as tame as ball pythons? How much are they usually ?

[NewLineReptile]

Thank's Ladyhawke and every one else for the nice word's :)

Well there are many snake's you could get that would be good for you but as you said you are not experienced with snake's so what i would do is find a type of snake that you would like and get all the info you can on the snake and see if you could provied what it would take to own and care for that type of snake

good luck
Brandon

[Conas]

wow 10 feet at 18 months old? got one that's about 3 months now and he's about 3 feet or so (not mesaured, just using naked eye). I knew they grew first their first year but i didn't know i was about to have a 10 ft beast runnin ammock :)

[Zoe]

It depends on the species.

There are Kenyan Sand and Rosie Boas which get 2ft (apprx... don't know the exactly number)
There are Hog Island Boas that get 4-5 ft
And there are BCIs and BCCs (Colombian Red-Tailed Boas and Guyana/Suranime Red-Tailed Boas) that get 7-11 ft. Not sure on weight though.

They are usually very tame. My girl is the sweetest thing I've ever come across! Hog Islands have a rep for being a little moody, but not big deal.

They go for 120-200$, average. Some are more expensive, like Hoggs.

Zoe

[McCarthy Boas]

Hi DrunkShadow,

Here are some pictures of some very Big Burms.
This one is 14' long and 190 lbs. I am 6' 2" and 260 lbs.
<img src="http://www.mccarthyboas.com/Rons14Burm03.JPG">

This is Baby she is over 420 lbs.
<img src="http://www.mccarthyboas.com/louisbaby.jpg">

This one is a Rock Python.
<img src="http://www.mccarthyboas.com/afrrock1.jpg">


Here is a link for some more Big Burms.
http://www.mccarthyboas.com/BigSnake2.html

Take care,
Tom

[NewLineReptile]

Hi Tom do you have any pic's of a Blonde Burm you could put up
they are awesome

Brandon

[McCarthy Boas]

Hi Brandon,

Here are some pics of the Blonde Burm.
These pictures belong to Bob Clark.
<img src="http://www.mccarthyboas.com/anewburm2.jpg">
<img src="http://www.mccarthyboas.com/BlondeBurmese.jpg">

Take care,
Tom

[NewLineReptile]

WOW AWESOME!! thank's for putting up those pic's Tom

Brandon

[LadyHawke]

so much for the albino...i want one those blonde ones now!! that was the most beautiful snake i've ever seen!!

[Tim_Cranwill]

I never thought I'd have any desire to own a "giant" snake. That has all changed since I've been treated to so many pics of all of the beautiful burms, retics, scrubs and etc that you guys keep. However, I am very glad that I made a trip over to Vern Ruml's house recently and saw first hand how unbelievably BIG these snakes get! I have decided to hold off for the next few years at least. If you've never seen a full grown "giant" in person, you shouldn't be allowed to buy one... but they are very gorgeous... :)

Amazing blonde, by the way!!! :D

[Serpent-King]

OMG! Don't listen to them. If you go anywhere looking for help with a burm they'll load you with that BS. Oh they get 25 feet and a gillion pounds. Let me break it down with some facts. Average size for a male burm is 13 feet. Females 15. Only on exception do they become huge beasts like that. It's really rare. And they usually don't weigh more then 150. Like you see that Bob Clark burm? Obese as hell. Saying burms are 20ft 300 pounds is like saying that all ball pythons are 6+ feet. We all know that is really really really rare and only on occasion will it occur. Same deal with these burms. They're members of this elite burm club. They load up newbies with that BS so they'll not even consider getting on. They're a bit fed up with them in the rescues so they take is as their personal mission to discourage everyone from getting a burm. They don't want anyone to get into burms, and if you do they will look down upon you and give you hell. They also love to give out lectures if anyone has a question. Then after fooling the person not to get the burm they reccomend smaller boas and pythons. You'll see more of it everywhere. Dont listen to this 20+ foot, 300 pound bull. It's rare and most likely won't happen.

[Tim_Cranwill]

Even a 150lb 15' burm is quite a bit to handle. I don't understand why you are so bitter about it anyway. If a person is asking how big a snake gets, they probably haven't researched the snake very well and should not be buying one until they have. There isn't much need for more 15' unwanted burms in the world who will likely end up at some experienced keeper's house in 2 years because someone neglected to learn the size capabilities these snakes possess... and they DO get to the sizes mentioned above even if it is in "rare" cases.

That is not to say that anyone who asks questions is just another annoying newbie who will ultimately end up giving their burm away, but we all know it happens...

[BoidKeeper]

Hey seeing is believing. What if a newbie does get a burm and gets a freak huge one? These people are just stating that the species has the potential to get that big, that's all. Regardless a lot of people are of the opinion that any heavy bodied snake over 10-12 feet should be considered as a two-person snake. It was a 12 burm that killed a 12 yr old in Colorado a few years back, not a 20 footer.
Trevor

[ReptiZone]

I would not look down on a person that buy's a burm I personaly love the giant snakes and no one tells me I cant have them.

It is realy a thing of do you like them that much because if you do you will get one and care for it the best way you know how to.

And that is the raw truth so you keep looking for the right snake and if it hapens to be a big one let me know and any one that gives you positeve feed back and I am sure we can help you tie the loose ends up where you may be a bit shady

[Zoe]

Snake_King and chondro python: you're encouraging a 16 year old with very little experience who has done no research to get a potentially huge snake. Even if only gets to be 15 feet, does that make it a perfectly handleable easy to house snake? Heck no. It's still going to need a huge enclosure, huge meals, a bathtub (and lets not forget huge craps). This is not the kind of project a RESPONABLE 15 year old will undertake. He's made the right choice in realizing it's too big to deal with, because who knows where his life will lead him in a couple years. Who knows if he has the money to pay for a huge, locking cage and the potential problems that can arise. Who knows if his parents are okay with the idea of a 15 foot snake living in their spare bedroom.

Giants are great to keep, but ONLY if you're settled down, living financially comfortably, has a wife/roomate who is aware of the this snake's potential size, and don't plan on having small kids in the near future (or if you are, you need a serious locking system). And not to mention have plenty of experience, have done plenty of research, know someone willing to help you handle a snake this size, and have seen first hand the size of these snakes.

Not something to be taken lightly.

Zoe

[BurmBaroness]

Here's a response for ya................I do rescues, and so do alot of my friends up and down the east coast. There are A LOT of burms in rescue. Reason? "I didn't know it would get that big!" So the snake is either given to a rescue, or turned loose. Or worse kept, only to be starved and neglected, until it dies or ends up in rescue with a serious RI. HOWEVER...............I am not totally against people owning burms. I have one that I got in as a rescue and kept for my own, and I love her more than any snake I have ever owned. Just speaking fro myself and my friends across the east coast who do rescues, the key is education. pet stores only want the $$, don't care about the animal. I know peopke who have bought burms that were never informed of the size, feeding and husbandry requirements, expense of PROPER feeding, etc. THAT is what we are so against, Serpent-King. Not people who truly love these wonderful giants and take great care of them. BTW, most burms, who are PROPERLY fed, get bigger than 13 ft for males and 15 ft for females, and I don't mean weight-wise. I do agree that alot of burms are overweight, that is due to powerfeeding, or a need by the owner to have a "huge" beast. However, alot of them are simply just BIG. SO I applaud anyone who takes the time to do their research, and ask for advice. We do not try to be negative, only informative. These beautiful animals have to ultimately pay the price for people who buy them with no idea what they are getting into. My burm is now big enough that I cannot handle her alone, fortunately I have help. That is something that must be taken into consideration when you buy a burm. Also, I don't recommend burms as "first" snakes, nor as a good snake for a teenager, because there are alot of changes in a teenagers life. That said, I DO know teenagers who are RESPONSIBLE burm keepers, so please teenagers, don't take offense. Burms are a lot of work and responsibility. the ones who do rescue just want people to make informed, responsible decisions about a snake that takes a huge commitment.

[Invictus]

I think he should stick with getting a male boa constrictor. They are more modestly sized (7-8 ft average) and sweet as candy more often than not. Hell, I think everyone should have a boa of some kind. Call me biased, but I adore my BCC, and I'm looking forward to getting many more.

[creander]

Visit this website if you want to see real big burms.

http://www.pythonmolurus.com

[matrix1829]

a female gets much bigger than a male. an average male between 14 to 17 feet and weigh 130-140 lbs. an average female is 16 to 20 feet and weigh 160-200 lbs. but like in everything ther are those freaks of mature and the people who over feed the burms and boost them.

[DrunkShadow]

Yup you guys are telling me lots of info. :( And "no" I wont get a burmeses python no more. I guess i will have to stay with my ball python which people are telling me is sick. It pooped green dump. I started a thread saying if the green stuff was ****, and later people were telling me it somekin of infection in the insides. Now i dont know what to do, but just stress out, and see what happends next. After all this is fixed, then i guess ill be planing to get another snake. Preferably a Boa.
Thanks

[matrix1829]

by the way mcarthy boas that is one amazing specimen!!!!!!!!

[Zoe]

DrunkShadow - bring those feces to a vet to be examined, he does sound sick. He also looked somewhat thin from the picture I saw... internal parasites??

Zoe

[DrunkShadow]

I dont know, is ther anything i could buy like something that he eats to make those interrnal parasites go away? How much will it cost to take it to the vet?

[Blueeheeler]

Cost is not an issue here. Your snake is ill and it is your responsibility to take care of it no matter what the vet bills will be. If you can't afford the snake that you have. PLEASE do not get another one. Please take your snake to the vet ASAP. Fecals are important. Internal Parasites Kill!!! Blueeheeler/Jamie

[SCReptiles]

At one time the average size of a burm may have been 16 to 20 feet. But absolutely not any more. The captive breeding and line breeding for color morphs has lessoned the size. Only the exceptions will grow past 16’ these days. I have a male that I have had since 1991 and he is 14’. No breeders out there are breeding for size, none are putting the biggest male back to the biggest female, they are putting the brightest with the brightest and in fact prefer them to be smaller. If you buy a true collected import, you have a chance at a huge snake, but not from CB stock. Not any more. Someone asked what this kid would do if he got one of the exceptions. Hey, there is a market for 20’ snakes. If you have a true 20 footer, you will have no trouble at all selling it for a nice sum. The problem is the 10 to 16 footers. You can’t give those away in this day and age. I encourage anyone to get a burm if they want one. It’s a very rewarding experience. You need to make sure you have a long term place to house him. I am telling you, once he is 12 feet, you will not find a place to rent. And also you need to be sure you can afford him. If you do not have the resources to take that ball to a vet, you probably can’t afford the upkeep of a burm.

[JeffT]

yeah, take it to the vet first. If you care about this snake you would have him checked on. By purchasing an animal it is YOUR responisbility to look after and take care of him. His life is in your hands now, if you were buying this snake for the right reasons, you would help him now.

[DrunkShadow]

Yup that right, im goin to take him anytime soon. Yo ScReptiles you are quite a reptile collector. Thats great and keep it up. If i ever get to like them more and when im older and have a house, ill to have lots of cool reptile. Well Thanks. Take care

[DrunkShadow]

Well Anyways today a while ago i found some normal poop. This one was poop, it even smelled like it. Well it was brown, somewhat like black. Before i said that i found some green stuff in the tank. i thought it was poop. I now think it wasnt poop (now that i saw this poop), and the one before had some white stuff on it. Todays really look like poop and even smells like it. Well what could have the green stuff been, i dont think it was poop. Ive just had my snake for 2 weeks so didnt know what it was. So now i think Roco dosent have parasites after all , because the poop looked normal.

Well Anyways i fed it just 5 minutes ago and it ate good for the 3rd time feeding it. It ate a mice about the size of its width. Well Laterz

[Zoe]

You should still get a fecal done, it might have parasites even though it has had one healthy poop.

[Bryce Masuk]

What chuck Said is very true many males end up beeing 10-11 feet To be honest Why would you buy a big snake if you can get one just like it thats smaller just like dwarf retics they are way more in demand then regular retics and the price is higher because of it meaning more of a return from breeding If you really need a burm I would look at granite males some are only 8 ft long and a 8 foot snake is MUCH smaller then a 12 footer when its in your hands

[DrunkShadow]

What chuck Said is very true many males end up beeing 10-11 feet To be honest Why would you buy a big snake if you can get one just like it thats smaller just like dwarf retics they are way more in demand then regular retics and the price is higher because of it meaning more of a return from breeding If you really need a burm I would look at granite males some are only 8 ft long and a 8 foot snake is MUCH smaller then a 12 footer when its in your hands

Are you taking about boa's? Well where can u get dwarfs? They cost more huh? Grantie males? Cool Alright laterz

[Bryce Masuk]

I was saying you can get dwarf retics and super dwarf even and a granite burm is basicly a dwarf burm except the pattern is a granite pattern also

[Blueeheeler]

I think you should stick to research for now. You have been jumping here and there with anytype of snake. Maybe you should take the time and learn about the snake that you have. BP are sometimes difficult to take care of - they stop eating for long periods of time. They won't eat if temps are not high enough to digest their food. Along with other little things that I have noticed. I have one BP and I'll tell you she's not as easy to care for as my boas or culbrids. If I were to get anymore snakes I would probably stay away from pythons all together. Most get too big others are tempermental. This is my opinion and just to let you all know I have not done much research on pythons in general. I have done reseach for my BP though. ?'s are good and the only dumb ? is the one that is not asked. Keep herping and take care of the snake that you do have.

? # 1 White stuff with tinges of green are Urates. Urine in solid form expelled with liquid. This is how snakes pee. Brown to black stool is normal poop. It is often quite smelly and can be down right foul depending on the type of prey. This does not mean that your snake does not have internal parasites. It is still possible for you snake to have them. Take your snake to the vet before it is too late. Just my opinion. Jamie/Blueeheeler
If I am wrong on any of this please correct me. I am not an expert.

[Bryce Masuk]

Most parasites are Unseeable with the naked eye but in many imported snakes you can actually see big worms in there feces but that usually happens AFTER you use meds because the worms no longer can hold on. But some parasites are actually fungi like ring worm and I dont think you can see anything when they are killed off

[T.O-SK8TER]

Green in the snakes defecation is normal for captive snakes. The water from our taps has Chlorophyll in it and that is the green colour in the defecation. A well hydrated snake will have this colour visible in its #2
Don t worry about it, if this were parasites you would see blood in the defecation.

[DrunkShadow]

Yo Thanks T.O. Skater. Im still learning

[creander]

Go to a vet, I think are not willing to go to a vet.she or he has parasites.It will die a painfull death if are not going to a vet.Let is
now what the vet told you.