is he sick i need some help

[offspring]

I have a young berded dragan maybe 2 or 3 months old and he only has 3 hands becouse him and another berded dragon got into a fight and he lost a hand so me and me frend (reptilez) saved him and treted him back to health. But today he seemed fine so when i feed him he ate normally after watching him eat i went down stairs an hour later i went back up and he wasnt jumping around like he usally does he was just laying there and he stayed there for hours but dont worry he still alive but he seems sick so i dont no what to do or how to help him. itz weird hes just laying in the corner on the little rock i have but i put him to sleep now so im wondering wuts wrong but what should i do in the morning to help him.
-offspring

[reptilez]

did you say it was at night before you were going to shut the lights off?

If yes, then he/she was probably just getting ready for bed.

[The_Omen]

Yah, sounds like sleepy time..
The rock, is it a hot rock? plug in type heater?

Hot rock bad.

[offspring]

he seems weird still he still not very energetic hes slow and he duzent run after his food
-offspring

[eyespy]

It's hard to say whether it's illness, stress or just laziness. Any sudden behavioral change is suspicious so try to see if anything in the dragon's environment has changed recently that might be causing stress. You might also want to take a fresh fecal sample to your vet to get a parasite check, and recheck your cage temps in case changes in the weather have the temps out of whack.

[Dozer]

Have you fed him anything new? Like chopped in a new veggy or somethin' like that? Maybe a temperautre change... whats his basking spot like?

[reptilez]

Dozer: His basking spot is 105F.

He has a live plant in there though that he seems to be eating, and im not sure if its okay for him.
Dan: ask your mom wht it is(type of plant). and ill come by today to check him out:D
-Reptilez

[offspring]

i dont no what kind of plant it is but i checks at super pet they sed it was fine. and im still feeding him collard greens and small crickets about 6/8 a day
-offspring

[Dozer]

Take the plant out for sure. Sometimes large chain pet store employees dont know as much as they should. Take the plant out because most likely it seems as the plant may have caused some toxicity poison. Take him to the vet.

[Dragon_Slave]

Dozer is right. Just because someone at the pet store said the plant would be ok, doesn't mean it is. I've heard some of the funniest things in my life from a pet store worker. One told me that bearded dragons come from Pakistan and another person told me not to feed live crickets because they jump around in their stomachs and cause tummy aches!!! Hahahahaha... it's hilarious how STUPID some people are.

[raebug2000]

i think the only " safe" plant is a fake one.....

[Dragon_Slave]

Rae... I have aloe vera plants in my beardies cage and they are wonderful... and 100% non-toxic! :D

[eyespy]

Any plant can cause problems because it may have been treated with chemical fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides or weed killers so even if it's a non-toxic plant you have to know where it came from and if chemicals were used. "Organic" is another word for manure-based fertilizers so there's a strong risk of parasites from organic plants.

Dragon Slave, even aloe vera has phytochemicals that can cause problems if eaten in excess, it's a potent laxative because it contains high levels of a purgative called aloesin and moderate levels of several other purgatives as well. Aloe-emodin can cause severe immune system reactions similar to anaphylactic shock and is considered an allergy "enabler". Very few creatures are allergic to the aloe-emodin itself but it stimulates immune system over-response to other proteins. Aloe also contains emodin which can also wreak havoc with the immune system, it's both a stimulant and suppressive. Beta-systosterol can cause sterility and increases the risk of eggbinding in gravid females. Chryosophanic acid is a calcium-antagonist that can contribute to MBD problems.

They have to eat a fairly large quantity in order to get enough of the phytochemicals to cause problems but if you leave a plant in a cage you never know if or when the beardie will decide to tear into it.

I've seen beardies who have eaten a lot of aloe vera die of malabsorption syndrome because of the food passing through too quickly and they basically dehydrate and starve to death.

Here's a website where you can look up the chemical activities of aloe and almost any other plant you can imagine: http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/

[Dragon_Slave]

Eyespy... thanks for the information, I had no idea! O.O
My beardie doesn't eat his plant, which is the only reason I have it in there. He doesn't even touch it, lol. He gets enough greens during the day that he doesn't feel the need to eat anymore.

[meow_mix450]

i dont think its the plant because im sorta in the same problem cause when i woke up this morining i saw my dragon in the corner and he looked weaki came back in an hour so he can warm up but he stayed there i picked him up and look very weak he would usually run around my arm but he just stays on my arm and did nothin:( i went to the vet bu they didnt help me much so all im doin rite now is comforting him and hope hes ok and hes having little seizers...after i came home from the vet so it might not be the plant cause i dont have a plant at all hope it helps