View Full Version : 2 Burms For First Snake!!!
Mike177
06-09-03, 06:16 PM
Hey
I recently came across some one (a freind of a freind to be exact) that had just bought 2 burms for there first snake and to make matters worse he didnt know anything about the general husbandry or how big of an enclorsure they will eventuraly new. if anyone has some pics of adult sized burms or something i can do to try to make him give the burms to me. (so i can find them new homes now wile it is still possable. as you know 18 foot snakes are hard to find homes for!) well anyway any one who has pics or anyone who can give them a GOOD home please post your pics or whatever here or contact me
Thanx 1,000,000
Mike,
Colonel SB
06-09-03, 06:35 PM
When will people lern. Will ya smack your friend upside the head for me. Someoen please post a pic of baby!
ReptiZone
06-09-03, 07:57 PM
well I hope these pics work
ReptiZone
06-09-03, 07:58 PM
and then there is this
Mike177
06-09-03, 09:57 PM
thanx KEEP THEM COMEING he is not my freind he is a freind of a freinds if he was one of my freinds i would smack him upside the head!
RachelS.
06-09-03, 09:58 PM
Mike, I was gonna post something like this, and I'm glad you did! Taylor's an idiot. I talked to him on the phone today and told him I will be taking the female and giving it to the local herp society (he won't get rid of BOTH of them).
I was askng him about general husbandary and how much experiece he has, and how many years he has been keeping snakes. So far he's building some big cage that sounds kinda awkward, I dunno how to explain it, and he has been keeping snakes for 6 months but these are the first snakes he has really ever kept (how did that happen?).
I'm just really pissed at him, and I can't get it into his thick skull that he isn't ready to keep these snakes.
Mike177
06-09-03, 10:10 PM
hey rach,
what will the DFW Herp do? do they have some kind of relocating thing? i bet we could find homes for them ourselfs. we could just give them to a freind or something i kinda wanna do it so i can make shure it get to a good home and from what i heard it needs to be tamed and is still nippy and i can do that too. but it realy dosent matter as long as it gets a good home personaly i think people need to stop breeding burms so much
mike,
Alan311
06-09-03, 11:43 PM
Yes guys Taylor is stupid... he need to learn yea i might be getting a burm soon but i have been researching snakes for 2 years almost and have had them for almost 1 year... and yes i know how big of a cage u need blah blah, but for your first snake THATS INSAINE!!!! or how ever u spell it well i will talk to him and tell him he needs to get ride of one or both because 2 burmese for you first snake thats insaine
remsin76
06-10-03, 12:03 AM
damn that taylor. mike how big is ur burm? i think pictures wont really scare someone. they need to see pics of someone's house with a room devoted to the burm. that'll scare him. tell him how much that thing is gonna cost to feed.
Mike177
06-10-03, 12:07 AM
uhhh well it depends what i feed it and where you get it and whether the snake is male or female
did i also mention the GIANT size of **** burms take???
RachelS.
06-10-03, 01:21 PM
Well, I'm sure Simon might take one and give it to someone he knows. He always gives me all kinds of herps. He probably knows a lot of people. I could ask him if he will take one in and give it to someone that has the experience with large boids.
DFW Herp will take them in and give them to someone who has had previous experience with large snakes, or Bonita will keep them herself if she can't find a home.
Alan: as for researching and keeping snakes, I think you need to have kept snakes at least 6 - 10 years before aquiring a burm. Research has nothing to do with handling and caring for one yourself. You need to at least have held a nice 12 - 15 footer and maybe had a breeder help you out with husbandary info and such. That's pretty much what I did before getting my own.
Snake69
06-10-03, 07:52 PM
Hi to everyone. I am new to this forum, but not new to snakes. I'm 40 years old, and have been raising snakes for over 25 years.
As to having a pet burm, or any snake for that matter there is something you must always keep in mind...no matter how much you read, no matter how much you've been told..a snake is like a child. no two are the same...
They do not all have the same attitude..they do not all follow the same feeding patern etc.
They do have the same basic needs, but ALL SNAKES do have a personality of there own.
So please always make sure that you know without a doubt what you are getting into. Experience is the best teacher.
If everybody looked at a snake as they would a baby the world would be a better place. Would you give up or sell your child just because it's getting too big, or has an attitude!!!
Please think first before getting a large snake, or any snake for that matter. They are one of the most beautifull amazing animals on this planet, and should be treated with respect.
Sorry for ranting, but this is a sore spot with me.....
Snake69
Mike177
06-11-03, 12:28 AM
I realy agree with Snake69 YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE but still none the less you should NEVER start with a Burm. but in no way am i saying dont reaserch. reaserch is key but always reaserch several diffrent authors to get diffrent opinions because you might find one person says one thing wile 10 others might say the exact opposate and it is then up to u to make the right choise
Mike,
Alan311
06-11-03, 12:37 AM
I agree Mike burms first snake way to much to handle EXPECALY 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReptiZone
06-11-03, 11:09 AM
I could see a person that had knowleg on them and said ah i got rid of my colection so I will just get this one animals to see haow big i can get it over the years that is fine even if he reserched it and wanted to take a chalange on I could understand but to take 2 for the life of me I dont know what he was thinking tell hime that will cost him easaly250$ a month in food next year and a vet check up is gona be murder to his wallet.
well all i can say is good luck to the guy I hope he will not be a statistic. And maby he knows all the do's and dont's and we just don't know.
I will not judge him till he shows up here with a verry basic and unconditional husbendery Q?
daver676
06-11-03, 12:51 PM
OMFG, THAT SNAKE IS HUGE!!
Is that the average full grown size for a burm? Or is that one bigger than average?
SCReptiles
06-11-03, 03:05 PM
If your friend is unhappy with his burms, have him get a retic.
SCReptiles
06-11-03, 03:12 PM
This is the largest snake in captivity. 26 feet long, 430 pounds.
Alan311
06-11-03, 06:11 PM
good news guys my friend (the on that bought the 2 burms) is think about giving or selling them and getting something else...i just hope that he doesnt keep them cause the last thing i want is for them to grow big and him not have enough room.
Scales Zoo
06-11-03, 07:27 PM
Rachel S.
I don't agree that you need to keep snakes for 6 - 10 years before getting a burm.
I do think you should be 18 (just for legal and liability reasons) before you own any large snake or potentially dangerous reptile (large monitor, venomous snake, crocodillian.
I am not questioning your ability to look after a burm - I don't want you to misunderstand my post .
How old were you when you started keeping snakes?
Ryan
Mike177
06-11-03, 10:57 PM
i also agree 6-10 years is alot some people keep like just a ball python for years and years and dont bother to learn anything new it depends on what you accomplish and how fast you do it
but i also disagree that you should be 18. yes it is a good idea and yes the mojority of people under 18 might not take as good of care of them it is unfair to rule out EVERYONE under 18. i am 14 and take good care of my burm and i would sooner spend all my money on her then me. and infact i just did building her a big old cage but remember age shoulnt be a facter it is what you learn and how you apply it!
Scales Zoo
06-12-03, 08:15 AM
In my opinion, when parents are willing to accept the liability of the children keeping giant snakes, fine. 18 is when age means legally responsibe for ones self. Hell, I know some 40 year olds who should not have burms, or corn snakes for that matter. Age is not relevant when experience is what counts, but we will not hire anyone under 16, and they would be working a full year before being given any authority to handle the giants, and would do so under supervision for another full year to determine their ability to deal with them safely. Maybe it is because we have some big ones who are not nice and do not appreciate human company, that I feel the way I do. Working with a single pet burm is one thing, maintaining a collection of 100+ snakes, lizards and crocodilians is quite another, they are not all pets.
Just my 2 cents
Sheila
RachelS.
06-12-03, 01:10 PM
Sheila,
I am just stating that in those years you should have kept more than just ball pythons and should at least be on the intermediate level getting ready for keeping something more difficult that you would really enjoy taking care of.
I, too, like Mike, am 14 and have a 7 foot burm of my own. I have been keeping snakes for almost 5 years (a little more than 4) and started actually keeping reptiles when I was 5 years old.
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