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reverendsterlin
06-07-03, 12:13 PM
got this lil guy from Blazin last year, a little weak in the feeding response compared to the rest of last years neos but still a respectable 88 gr. (only 50 gr behind his sister)
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/272pict0046-med.jpg
enjoy

gonesnakee
06-07-03, 12:32 PM
Nice Ghost Man. I find that some of my Ghost babies are the hardest to get started eating of the various Corns I produce. It seems that the Snows are the most aggresssive. I have noticed this over the last 3 years. Something to do with genetics or just coincidence? Good Luck with your snakes. Mark I.

snakelover111
06-07-03, 09:22 PM
nice corn man! its a beuty!

marisa
06-07-03, 09:32 PM
What a nice cornsnake!!!! I love when they have a more "pinkish"/light grey tone to them....

Marisa

BoidKeeper
06-08-03, 08:59 AM
Very nice!
gonesnakee your the second person I've heard of refering to certain corn morphs being harder to get feeding then others. I think that is has got to be coincidence. How can receive colour traits affect feeding responce. I just can't see the conection but I know some one who says the same thing about blood reds. I hear people talking about morphs feeding responces like they were talking about a different species altogether. There should not be a link between colour and feeding behaviour but some people sure seem to be running into this problem. Have you heard of any other morph/feeding issues? I know that the best feeder I have is my amel by far, this girl is the best eater I have period.
Food for thought truely.
Trevor

reverendsterlin
06-08-03, 09:51 AM
when it comes to morphs there will be more variation in feeding response within a morph than between morphs(this applies to humans as well lol). The only thing I have noticed is that animals with Miami blood seem a little harder to get started.

Colonel SB
06-08-03, 10:07 AM
You can say that again, Bloods are a pian to get going. That ghost is great lookin, no yellow underthe chin or nothing.

BoidKeeper
06-08-03, 11:19 AM
Miami blood
Yes but that is a local not so much a morph like Okeetees wouldn't you agree? I just don't see how taking an anery and a hypo who are eating well are going to produce offspring that won't eat because of their colour. I think that the feeding problems must be attributed to something other then receive colour genes.
Trevor

reverendsterlin
06-08-03, 01:58 PM
Okeetee's are a local also, originally derived from stock from Jasper County, South Carolina Gun Club property and is recognized by wider than average saddle outline. Miami's have orange/red blotches on a silvery-gray background as typifies most animals from Miami (Dade County), Florida.

BoidKeeper
06-09-03, 04:11 AM
Sorry Rev that should have read: Miamis are a local not a morph just like Okeetees. (of course you know this) Sorry about that it changed the meaning of my post. But anyway my point was that I can understand how locals may be harder to get going as aposed to morphs. Using Boas for example, lets say all columbians are good eaters why would amel or anery or even snow boas suddenly become picky when they are all the same species just a different colour. I'm not saying that some corn morph aren't picky I'm just trying to explore the conection, if any between morph and feeding responce.
Cheers,
Trevor

Blazin
06-09-03, 10:57 PM
Hey thanks for keeping me updated Reverend! Thats a nice looking snake if I do say so myself. Can't wait to see this years clutch's. Let me know what all your producing so maybe I can get somethign else from ya.

Vanan
06-09-03, 11:03 PM
There is some connection with some morphs not doing so well and I think it's due to inbreeding in most cases. This is especially true with blizzard corns. Most are very small babies.

reverendsterlin
06-10-03, 09:40 AM
I'll agree that inbreeding can be one possibility, another is recordkeeping or lack of, I will assume that many 'normals' have come as a result of local breeding, and I'll bet that many of the sub-populations will be semi-specialized feeders depending on prey availability. In an area with abundant lizard or frog populations but limited rodent population, competition dictates that snakes would eat the frogs or lizards as a general rule, over a few generations semi-specialization may occur, over many generations this can lead to evolutionary specialzation. Miami's like Okeetee's are very beautiful normals and have probably been bred into many other lines of normals and morphs to enhance color and pattern so I can see this trait popping up more frequently in some morphs and lines especially where the generations are close to the original introduction.

BoidKeeper
06-10-03, 12:33 PM
Ah yes the all the line breeding may definatly be an attributing factor.
Cheers,
Trevor

serpenteye
06-12-03, 04:50 PM
Ohh wow...thats a really pretty corn.
I really want to get a few this year.

Blazin
06-13-03, 07:34 PM
ghosts? Email me!

Invictus
06-15-03, 10:58 AM
Just a note: In the case of the Miamis, it's not really just a color morph. Miami corns are also known to be smaller than their Okeetee counterparts. This could explain the different behavior.

Blazin
06-16-03, 01:10 AM
Yeah I have a Marathon keys female thats very small yet she is full grown. Hoping on some eggs from her real soon but will see. She could be really healthy or really gravid!