happy new brb owner

[rustie]

just got back from the rep show in orlando with 2 baby brb's. im loving them. havent been bitten by them yet (got nailed by a red tail at the show, a 4+ footer). these are really nice looking snakes, ive been lookin pics and cant wait for them to get some size.

anyone know if they could live together? they are m and f.

any advice for a new boa owner? ive had corns for 2 years, but i dont know much about brb's. im lookin up info tonight.

thanks all.

[BoidKeeper]

Here is a link to a great BRB page, Brazilian Rainboa Boas (http://www.corallus.com/cenchria/index.html)

As for housing them together, in my opinion, which I'm basing on things I've read and things that I know large breeders do, I feel that snakes should never be housed together. Here are some points that I keep in mind and reasons why I do not house snakes together.
1. The presence of another animal in their space represents competition, competition leads to stress.
2. Stress leads to loss of appetite and or disease.
3. If one sick gets sick they can both get sick.
4. How do you know who is defecating and who is not?
5. Snakes are not social animals so although captivity its self is not natural forcing two animals to live together is even more unnatural.
Cheers,
Trevor

[Jezabel]

Congrat on your new snake!

As for housing them together? I would not.

Read what I just wrote on this other treads: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16561

[Linds]

Congrats on the new additions! When do we get to see pics of the little guys? ;) As for housing, Trevor covered a lot of the main cocnerns associated with housing them together. I agree that seperate housing is the way to go, except during breeding.

[rustie]

hey thanks alot guys.

so housing... no screen covered tank :(

ive been reading that a plastic shoebox will do. but my shoes come in cardboard boxes. what kind of shoes come in plastic boxes? ok all kidding aside. how does it work? is it a rubbermaid box with a few holes, a heat source, and a few hide boxes. and how do you keep it humid?

u guys rock
thanks

[SerpentLust]

Congrats!!! BRB's are my absolute favourites!

[Linds]

For neonate BRB's, all you need is a plastic shoebox with some holes drilled for ventilation, a few inches of damp sphganum moss or carefresh, and a large water dish... and of course a controlled UTH/heat mat covering 1/3-1/4 of the bottom. They will burrow in the substrate, so you eliminate the need for hides.

[rustie]

is sphganum moss the same as sphganum PEET moss? cause it looks alot like dirt. not mossy like spanish moss.

oh and 75 degrees is good for neonates right?
i heard they like it cooler than other boids.

[Jeff_Favelle]

75F cool end, 82-86F warm end.

[Linds]

NO sphagnum moss isn't the same as sphagnum peat moss. I use sphagnum peat for my frog, but I wouldn be iffy about using it for a snake, as it is finely milled hence can get under their scales or impacted in their gums and whatnot. I was referring to sphagnum moss in its whole, untampered plant form. You could also keep them on wet newspaper, they will go between the layers and hide there (make sure they can indeed get between layers).

[rustie]

they just shed!!!!! wow, i bought them at their dullest... wasnt expecting this. crisp black, and irredescence... i did make a good decision. :D
btw the peat is gone, very humid, nice heat gradient, and they're doing GREAT!!!
feed them before their first shed, apparently no problems.
well i should be posting pics soon (the pics are hours before the shed :( no irredescence sorry) cant wait to post em.

later guys

[krrc]

I want to see! good luck with them.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

RUSTIE:

Congrats, and good luck with them post some pics if you can.

I would not put them together in same cage until there ready to breed. Much safer that way trust me and other hear saying so.

Cya