Fresh Road Kill

[asphyxia]

I know its ok for humans to eat fresh road kill like moose and deer, but what are your thoughts on feeding racoon, rabbit, squril and chipmunk, to the herps.

Of course all the pavement would be picked out and cleaned off.

B

[marisa]

I can't say this is right or wrong but this guy on Bob Clarks forum once posted (he is a frequent poster there) that he lives in the country. His retic had just gotten done eating a coyote leg that he hunted (on his property) and he claims that he often feeds fresh road kill, freshly killed animals from traps, etc. He said so far the biggest thing it can take is one leg at a time but he is looking forward to feeding it full coyotes since they run all over his property. He feed thawed though. Anything he feds the snake has been in a deep freeze I believe.....

Marisa

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

...roadkill for food? Woah now what? Ive never heard of this before but is it a joke? I would imagine it would be safe though...Wierd, Ive never thought of such a thing. I look forward to seeing more replies on this post...

[Zoe]

I don't know, I wouldn't feed road kill myself. Who knows what its eaten? What worms or parasites or diseases it has? If it's eaten some poison or something with pesticides on it? I wouldn't risk it, I'd rather just pay for the food item and get it safely.

[yankeefoxtrot]

I think that i would prolly be a little to worried about that like zoe said, it might have worms are other harmfull things that might hurt your snake.....Not safe if you ask me


Lucas out

[Emily-Fisher]

I myself wouldn't do it because there's a very <i> very</i> big chance that the animal has parasites. Now you wouldn't want to go feeding your snake a parasite-infested squirrel...would you? Just my opinion...

[asphyxia]

Good Point Zoe, who knows if maggots worms and internal parasites are safe for reptials? It would be best i I ran over the animal myself i suppose, rather than finding a 4 or more day older one.

I think some monitors can eat rotten food?

I think we should leave the dead birds behind due to west nile virus, unless we actuall see a cat kill it.

Emily: I do not think parasites would be on somthing that was fresh and you scoped it up right away.


Brian

[Lisa]

I wouldn't bother with feeding any wild game to a pet. wild game tends to have parisites live or dead.

[asphyxia]

Lisa: I have eatin lots of things I have found on the side of the road and I'm still kicking, but then again some of the things i've cooked.

[Zoe]

Just because you can do something without dying, doesn't mean you should. I could ingest small amounts of bleach, doesn't mean I'm going to, or will feed it to my snakes.

[Lisa]

Yes, but you haven't eaten them whole, stomach parisites and all.

Maybe if you gutted them it would be a different issue.


Food bill getting you down? www.petsorfood.com

[asphyxia]

Been there done that...yummy, you gotta try the Afghan Hound

And Lisa, yes your stomach acid kills most if not all of the parasites

[Zoe]

What exactly are you planning to feed roadkill to?

[asphyxia]

Squirrel Road Kill Brunswick Stew

Okay, you've got quick reflexes and have just hit a squirrel.Take that sucker and skin it, cut the head off and remove the internal organs. Cut squirrel into pieces and add to chopped pork of equal amounts and saute it slowly until light brown in 1/4 cup shortening. Then remove from the pan. Use the squirrel and pork fat to brown 1/2 cup of chopped onions. Put the squirrel, pork and onions in a stewing pot and add 2 cups of quarte
red tomatoes. 2 cups of lima beans. 1 cup of hot water. Cayenne to taste.
Simmer till squirrel and pork is just about tender and add 3 cups of corn. 2 spoons of Worcestershire sauce and a cup of toasted bread crumbs.
Simmer for until completely tender..then there you are!!!

[asphyxia]

Zoe, My family the dog and the herps...why do you want to come over for a BBQ?, if so your more than welcome.

[BoidKeeper]

What if the animal had ingested(sp) poison just prior to being hit?
Trevor

[CyberGhost]

I personaly like the dodo bird, I highly recomend it!!!

[Zoe]

Sure, I'll bring the compost salad! lol

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

I agree with boid, you dont know wat diseases and where that animal has been. I wouldnt recomend feeding roadkill....blah gross.

[stretch]

If you were going to feed roadkill freeze then thaw it out. That should kill all internal parasites and other nasty things like that.

[JKS]

Anyone consuming any kind of roadkill needs to get their head checked. If you live in Ottawa maybe the Royal Ottawa has a padded room available. I'm a meat cutter at a grocery store I could recommend if you'd like a nice fresh cut of meat though. (Sorry we don't sell squirrel or groundhog.)

Why would anyone risk the possible consequences? Do you not value your pets lives, or your own?

[Solid Snake]

asphyxia you're sick... eating Squirrels... are u low on budget? when your friends come over, do u ask them, "aye i got Squirrel stew, want some?"

even people on jack *** tried to eat road kill (cooked) they barfed up like crazy. LOL those people who cooked it for the jack *** crew were red necks. you arent one of those are you?

[unknownclown]

haha oh lord! Well I guess if ya froze it first it would kill the parasites... But what if the animals had some disease like rabies or something else like parvo passed on by animals? Would that also be killed due to the freeze?Or what if they sat there dead alongside the road durring the rain and soaked up some oil left behind by the cars passing by? Personally I wouldnt do it just because I have enough feeders here and well.. Im just not that broke to have to look at road kill that way or maybe its because none of my animals are large enough. Heck I dont know it just sounds too risky and I love my babies too much to risk them.

[asphyxia]

To yoeun905
If your in a rush...

Ingredients
1 medium(3-5 lb) piece of road kill
1 quart of swish or cheap port/sherry
1 packet of Taco Bell taco sauce
1 pack of junior mints

Directions
Choose a roadkill that's fresh to medium fresh and mostly intact. (Unidentifiable fur & pulp tends to be more risky but again so is blowfish sushi)

Wrap carcass in tinfoil and douse with swish. Sprinkle on taco sauce and close foil wrapping. Set on engine block and drive for 200-300 km at a 1200 rpm minimum. When the aroma begins to waft through the vehicle's ventilation, the meal is ready. Serve immediately with junior mint garnish.

Remember dogs eat their own vomit so don't hesitate to dine on this fare a second time if necessary.

Bon Appetite

Brian
Chef Royale

P.S. When I was a kid, I ate squirrel. It was like chewing leather. Remember, the little squirrel sees the car coming and he gets all pumped up. All that adrenaline makes for tough meat."

[asphyxia]

nevermind the Mad Cows

Summer’s Nearly Here! Toss Some Roadkill on the Grill!
PETA is urging die-hard meat lovers to help save animals by scouring the streets and turning vehicular victims into vittles. If you’re wondering why the world’s largest animal rights organization would encourage consumption of roadkill kebabs, read on!

Factory Farming—It’s Wheely Awful!
Millions of animals are killed on highways every year, and if just left there to rot, these carcasses go to waste. At PETA, we realize that squirrels are squished by Subarus and ’possums get plowed over by Pathfinders. We don’t like it, but it happens. At least, with these animals, there’s a good chance that Thumper was scampering about, happy and free, until that final moment when the Rabbit came around the corner. Odds are, he never knew what hit him.

Such is not the case for all the cows, pigs, chickens, fish, and other commonly farmed animals who are unlucky enough to be born wearing the label “USDA meat.” They have personalities and are quite capable of forming communities and relationships if given the chance. Instead, factory farms deny animals everything that is natural or enjoyable to them, condemning them to frustrating lives in filthy, cramped cages, stalls, and sheds, where only a steady diet of pharmaceuticals keeps them alive through the miserable and unnatural conditions. These animals, whose capacity for pain and suffering is similar to our own, undergo excruciating debeaking, tail-docking, and castration—all without painkillers. They never feel a ray of sunshine on their backs or breathe fresh air—until their hellish, harrowing ride to the slaughterhouse where, if they’re lucky, slaughterhouse workers stun them before hoisting them upside-down and slitting their throats.
“Tired” of Vegetarians’ Driving You Nuts With Guilt Trips About Factory Farming? Then, Drive by and Dig in!
Make no mistake—PETA has and will always urge people to kick their unhealthy meat addictions. Medical experts agree—it’s better for human health not to consume artery-clogging animal flesh. Still, the fact remains that many meat addicts cling to their chicken wings as tightly as 2-year-olds cling to their “blankies.” But rather than condemn billions of thinking, feeling animals to factory-farm miseries, die-hard meat-eaters can help clear their consciences—and the streets—by eating roadkill. Remember, no pesticides, no growth stimulants or hormones, and no antibiotics went into their food. Roadkill is natural, organic, and pesticide-free!

It looks just like Hamburger!

[TardGirl]

Hey is that petsorfood thing for real? If it is then that is just sick!

[beth wallbank]

oh my god, i'm gonna go and puke now........argh......Brian...are you being serious? I sure hope not. When I was a kid in Ontario, my brothers and I were walking the highway and came across a racoon road kill victim. My brother thought it would be cool to give it a kick to football it into the forest, and when he did that his foot went straight through the carcass and his show was covered in maggots.......I will NEVER forget that day.....ewww.
But I do know for fact, that people that breed cig cats, wolves, exotics for movies and films, do have contracts through road crews that care for the highways and pick up fresh killed. They get all the animals that have been hit, deer, elk, moose, bear, etc,. donated to their businesses to feed the animals. BLAHH

[Linds]

asphyxia,
Many parasites infestations begin with animals ingesting the larva or oocysts... they don't all necessarily make it all the way to the stomach. They can go into the soft tissues in the mouth, etc., or go into the lungs where they may remain or be coughed up to travel to their destination. This is very different from people eating roadkill, the food is cooked to kill the parasites, etc, as well as we don't eat the outside of the animal, which could contain various toxic or otherwise undesirable substances. Zoe brings up great points such as poisoning as well. And what about bacterial infections as well? You enver know what those animals carry... wild animals are always very dirty. As for your question about snakes and parasites... though many parasites are host specific, not all are, and your snake could develop and infection due to one or more of these parasites being ingested and NO parasites are healthy or safe for a captive snake to have. And people can get parasites from -ingesting- meat that is improperly cooked... eating raw or undercooked beef can result in infections such as tapeworm. I wouldn't be so certain in saying that because you are eating it and your stomach is full of acid that you are safe against these things. In short, I would strongly discourage anyone from feeding any wild prey to their animals.

[asphyxia]

Do you think a tapeworm could help me loose some weight?
I am trying to get my boyish figure back now the speedo months are upon us.

Brian

[BoidKeeper]

Brian in a speedo:medpuke:
Stop eating roadkill and glue!
Trevor

[unknownclown]

haha dude you are gone!

[asphyxia]

What do you mean? unknown

[unknownclown]

haha I mean your crazy ;)

[asphyxia]

ahhh, well I can't argue with that, however,
I am the normal in the family

I would like to eat...meat ...meet you soon
Brian

[reverendsterlin]

hey I will feed fresh frozen roadkill, BUT I have a freezer that is at -2F and leave them in that for 2 weeks to kill parasites

[Andy_G]

I think it's a very bad idea to feed roadkill. I would think it's worse then going out and catching rats, mice, rabbits, etc. and feeding them to the herps. As you know, most of us frown upon that idea.


Originally posted by stretch
If you were going to feed roadkill freeze then thaw it out. That should kill all internal parasites and other nasty things like that.

Unfortunately Stretch, most conventional freezers are simply not cold enough to kill every parasite in the body, that's why a lot of people get their snakes treated for internal parasites once a year, because not all parasites die. If captive bred rodents can even contain some internal parasites, imagine what one caught in the wild could have!

[Samba]

MKay, I might have gotten to this thread a little late, and I only skimmed over the posts but here is what I have to say: Roadkill isn't safe in my opinon, simply because you don't know where the animal has been, or what it has. Yes, freezing kills most parasites, but there are some extreme creatures on this planet, and you don't know if the eggs have been killed.

I realized, reading through this, that there is at least one pro advocate, so I will include this: Maggots only eat dead animals/tissue (never live tissue), so ingesting them (theoretically) shouldn't hurt. Some poisons can stay in animals' systems for years (in fact, some have now grown 'immune' to some chemicals due to contant low exposure). Not good if your snake or monitor hasn't been exposed.

Last point: (And I apologize because this is messy and not very well-written): If you think Roadkill is an alternative to feeding the traditional live rats and bunnies, give your animals a home where they won't have to eat half-decomposed carcases. When I want to give my Burm something different/special I go to the grocery store and pick up a bird or two, thaw it, and offer it the same way I would a rat. 'Nuff said. =D

[Mason]

Um, i wouldn't feed anything wild to my snake. Mites are what I would be concerned about. Lice, bug eggs mashed in the fur. Think about where these animals hang out before they meet your car. Think about the filthy water, and garbage they eat prolly close to every day.
Yuk,
humans eating a dear or a moose is different cause we take it appart and cook it .

[drewlowe]

LOL this thread is so freaking hillarious. LMAO.

Ok yeah i agree feeding road kill to a herp i think... yeah bad idea. i wouldn't do it. but whatever

Eating it yourself... nah not my thing i wouldn't do that either.

But and god i cant belive i'm saying this but my grandpa and great uncle LOVE absolutly LOVE road kill. I see nothing wrong with eating it. Heck what do you think people ate before we went all 20th centry. We hunted our food. ok so hes not hunting it some vehicle is doing it for him but comeon people lay off him about eating roadkill there are still lots of people out there who still do it. And just because you may cringe (like me) at the fact that he's eating it dosen't mean he's sick, gross, or wierd.

At least it saves people like us looking at that poor bunny or squirel (or whatever it might be)on the side of the road and saying poor little guy got hit by a car for no reason. At least now it has a purpose and didn't dye for no reason.
My .02 cents.