IJCP Cons

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Hey all. What are the cons of keeping IJCPs? Whats their disposition like? Lap snakes? Crazy snakes? Thanks all! Lol Zoe im waitin for you to jump on this thread :).

[snakelover111]

ill leave this to zoe shes an expert on ijs

[Zoe]

Hm... well, I guess they poop. That's the only con I can think of... OH! You need to feed them! lol

They have pretty good disposition. All my adults are very tame and have never struck or bitten (except at food, or once my hand which unfortunately smelled like a mouse), and I rarely handle mine. My littlest female is a little on the wiry side, but when I handle her more often she chills. My male is just a doll... I take him out and he just wraps around my neck for a few hours
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/135ij0301.jpg.

While they aren't as tame as a burm or a boa, they are far from crazy. They just tend to be more active. My big female will get impatient with me if I have her out for a long time, and will warm me with little loud-breaths.

Even my babies are tame. They are a little zippy, and slither around my hands, but never try to "run" away or bite me. I was struck at once by one of the babies when attempting to untanbgle him from some heat-pad wires. However, even then it was a warning snap, and he could have hit me but didn't.

So, their tempermants are better than that of any JCP i've ever met, but coastals do tend to be calmer. But they come with a bigger size.

Also, IJs make great display snakes! Mine are always out and about, and rarely hide.

Zoe

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Lol yeah she is...

[Zoe]

Here's another pic. http://www.indiepool.com/privateftp/archermultimedia/zoestevens/images/me/me11.jpg.

I took that on the first day I got her when I got home with her. Totally cool and calm. They are really "I'm in charge, so follow my rules and you're safe" snakes, as opposed to my boas which are more like "what? you want me to over there? fine, okay".

I love em :] (obviously)

And thanks for calling me an expert! Though I don't really consider myself one, I am honoured that you do :)

[vanderkm]

One con is their stubborn fixation on mice as prey. Unless they are started on rats very early they can be very hard to convert to anything other than mice. Though some lines are moderate in size, some are quite large and our adult female is over 6 feet and will not accept anything other than mice, so makes for extended feedings.

That is the only negative i can think of about them - they are moderately priced, great size, not too heavy bodied, wonderful color and patterns and becoming more popular, as they deserve to be.

mary v.

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Ah score! Music to my ears Zoe and vanderkm! lol. Wel that does it. My mind has been made up and cage building is already underway! I should have it finished by the end of the week with interior. Thanks a lot for the info Zoe! I appreciate it bunches. :)

[Zoe]

Yeah, the mouse thing is VERY true. They are supposedly easy to convert. It's BS, if you ask me.
Which is why I'm starting my babies on rat pinks! :D

No problem! You will be so very happy with your purchase!!

Zoe

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Heh I hope so! Thanks again for all the help and feedback I have already received! :)

[reverendsterlin]

lil' ones always blood my arms from bites, but the juv and up seem to handle real well if they are worked

[JIMI]

JCP's are still harder to get on rats than IJ's I think. so that'd be a pro!

I say there are no cons. unless you want a bigger snake, cuz IJ's arent big.

[JKUROSKI]

I think neither is any harder to get on anything....it all depends on the individual animal. Why do we need to label something as the 'most' tame, or the 'pickiest eater'. All of our sample sizes are too small to state this as fact....

They all kick *** and that's a fact! cheers.

[JIMI]

Of those who own both IJ's and JCP's.. they will tell you that thier JCP's tamed down quickest, and are less likely to be skittish or startled when holding them. To my knowledge you've never kept an IJ.

[JKUROSKI]

Originally posted by JIMI
Of those who own both IJ's and JCP's.. they will tell you that thier JCP's tamed down quickest, and are less likely to be skittish or startled when holding them. To my knowledge you've never kept an IJ.

Was this for me?

I currently own an adult female and have owned three other Irians in the past. I would say that they have been more aggressive in my experiance than any jungle or coastal I have owned. I have worked with 2.4.7 coastals, 2.4 jungles, and 1.3 Irians.

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Originally posted by JIMI
To my knowledge you've never kept an IJ. Correct. This will be my first. The only snakes ive owned so far have been two female Ball Pythons. Anyway guys..look! - http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15769 ...Booya! :D Thanks for looking.

[AnthonyC]

Originally posted by JIMI
Of those who own both IJ's and JCP's.. they will tell you that thier JCP's tamed down quickest, and are less likely to be skittish or startled when holding them. To my knowledge you've never kept an IJ.

Actually, my experience has been the exact opposite.

As far as babies go, I've had 6 IJs, 6 Coastals, and three Jungle Carpets.

One of the Jungles was (by far) the nastiest of the bunch...and according to a friend of mine who has her now (2 years later), she still has not calmed down at all.

All 6 of the Irian Jaya babies have been really mellow. In fact, the only baby IJ that ever bit me was my dog tame female. She nailed me one time. It was the day I bought her and it happened at the reptile show, right in front of the breeder's table.

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Sweet! My cage will be done in two hours. I cannot WAIT. ALl this feedback is just wonderful. Thaks you sSnakeSs.com! But, Again, Its 4x2x3..Thats alright for an IJ correct? Thanks!

[Dom]

wowser.. lol lost of debates...

I have kept/keep 2 IJ's.. 3 jungles .. 4 coastals (+20 babies now) ..

Workeds with a few carpets and Ij's.. and heres what i think..

Ij's do tend to be a bit nippy but tame down easilly .. Coastals . are vvery mellow and tend to be very "tame" by nature.. Jungles.. hmm either very agressive or tame.. IN my experience..

But i do agree that it really depends on the animals..

Although I love coastals for their size and Jngles for their colors.. Ij's did not really do it for me.. My next if ever money is available will be brendelli's.

[Zoe]

Well, I know that all my IJs are tame, including the babies, and I've never met an aggressive one. The worst is my younger female who threatens me sometimes by moving her head really fast and touching my hand with her nose. Scared me at first, but I know she's just a big bluffer.

I have met several aggressive JCPs, who will hiss at anything that moves by their cage and bite without hesitation.

Coastals I believe are the tamest. They are tame by nature (maybe they know they are bigger?), and pretty much everyone agrees with that.

Dom - Are you refering to Bredlis? I've never heard of brendellis and my search yielded no results.

Zoe

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

woah, bredlli's are or used to besold at: www.a1pythons.com ....sweeeeeeeeeeet snakes! They had a special on them once on Kller Instinct with Rob Bredl. The snake is named after his father.

[Dom]

sorry Zoe.. Yes I am refering to Bredlli's.. long day...

[Zoe]

Okay, was just curious to know if there was a new carpet SSP I hadn't hear of.

Madhatter- Yeah, they are amazing snakes! While I'm not really a fan of their colours, I still think they are beautiful.

Zoe

[AnthonyC]

In all honesty, I think it all really depends on the snake. These two are a perfect example of the variety you get from the same clutch.


This female Tiger Coastal is a demon...
http://reptiles.drivennewmedia.com/Carpets/SS_CCPs/ss_carpet_female_1202.JPG


This is her brother, who has never even thought about striking at me.
http://reptiles.drivennewmedia.com/Carpets/SS_CCPs/SS_CCP_male_060103_white.jpg

[Colonel SB]

Zoe you have a nice IJC.