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garterguy
05-12-03, 08:08 PM
im going to a lake tomorrow ot go look for leopard frogs,garter snakes,and Massuanga snakes. i hope to catch two of each and release them on my farm. i have built a pond out here for em and everything.hope everything goes as planned!

Gregg M
05-12-03, 08:45 PM
It is not a good idea to relocate snakes........ They usually wind up dieing....... If you find them take pics and leave them where you found them.......

Vanan
05-12-03, 11:10 PM
Heed Gregg's advice. Relocation doesn't always work, even when done by biologists sometimes. Try to setup a good herp envrionment, and the herps will come by themselves.

Beejay
05-13-03, 02:07 AM
I'm not sure what to think of your post. It sounds like there should be something drawn to a pond on a farm...no need to go collecting "Massuanga" snakes and the likes...but good luck finding two of each anyhow :D

Imagine how rewarding it will feel to find you've helped create an environment that attracts snakes and frogs....and then compare that feeling to the knowledge that you've just marked a few pairs of beautiful animals for death by relocating them to an unfamiliar location.

Wait until July, and then tell us how many naturally occuring frogs you've found in your pond! Trust me on that! lol

But good luck field herping anyhow! Bring a camera, not a pillowcase!

Bj

garterguy
05-13-03, 07:29 PM
hehe i wasnt planning on releasing them directly into the wild i was going to keep two of each and see if i can breed them...if nothing happens in a few weeks i will release them back to their homes

dm101081
05-14-03, 05:48 AM
What kind of breeding results were you planning on seeing in a few weeks???

Dozer
05-14-03, 12:40 PM
Eggs of course ;)

V.hb
05-14-03, 04:12 PM
you couldnt WC collect two animals from the wild and breed them in 2 weeks thats rediculous and irresonsible!!

Dozer
05-14-03, 06:53 PM
I'd like to add that i'm being a smart punk :P

JD@reptiles
05-14-03, 07:42 PM
LoL... Sorry garter guy.. but i haven't heard anything that stupid ever.

garterguy
05-14-03, 07:49 PM
who said a few weeks means 2 weeks?

JD@reptiles
05-14-03, 07:53 PM
and what are massuanga snakes?

Lisa
05-14-03, 07:57 PM
I think he means massassauga rattlers. I could be mistaken though.

JD@reptiles
05-14-03, 07:59 PM
Garter guy. have you ever kept hots before? or do you have a hook?

KrokadilyanGuy3
05-14-03, 08:02 PM
.. For the record Massasaugas are endangered animals; Meaning no collecting unless you hold a PSP or some other sort of permitation allowing endangered animals to be collected. Good luck at getting them too, I hear they are hard to obtain. As for relocating animals of any sort. I'm sure you'd need permits, especially if the are endangered animals and are hazardous to humans or other creatures. There's a reason why they aren't in that particular area. Leave it at that. By the way, you'd need permits to do anything with Massasaugas.
Xan

JD@reptiles
05-14-03, 08:07 PM
That was well said KrokadilyanGuy3. I forgot about that little detail.

Jordan

garterguy
05-14-03, 08:31 PM
I AM NOT RELOCATING ANY SNAKES I AM JUST STUDYING THEM

KrokadilyanGuy3
05-14-03, 09:31 PM
i hope to catch two of each and release them on my farm. i have built a pond out here for em and everything.hope everything goes as planned!

I AM NOT RELOCATING ANY SNAKES I AM JUST STUDYING THEM



..Sounds like you are to me. Catching will involve permits for massasaugas. I recomend not getting caught with them buggers
without proper varifications..
.. Thanks Jordan, was actuallywaiting to see if anyone picked upon it before I posted.
Xain

JD@reptiles
05-15-03, 07:53 AM
Have you ever kept hots before GarterGuy? Do you have a hook?