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Mike177
04-06-03, 11:00 PM
would it be ok to house 2 female vaileds in the same cage. i have been told it was but i would like your 2 cents thanx.

.....................................Mike......... ................................

Trace
04-06-03, 11:22 PM
It shouldn't be a problem. The females tend to be mutually tolerant of each other. Obviously keep your eye on them for the first little bit to make sure they are getting along. It may help to provide a couple of different basking areas for the ladies so they both have access to the proper heat/UV requirements.

You posted a pic in the enclosure forum of your new cage. Is that where they are going?

Cheers!

Trace

Mike177
04-07-03, 10:16 AM
Ya that is going to be the one i will keep them in. i would kinda like another Cham but I am running out of room because my burm is getting bigger and i am going to be building his final cage winthin one month to a year. and you know how bur cages are.

Jaylyn
04-07-03, 06:32 PM
Hi Mike!

I checked out the cage you built - awesome job! Nice and big! Chams really do appreciate the extra length. :)

Personally, though, I wouldn't house two adult females in the same cage - especially veileds. I know some people do it - and it seems to work - but does it really? Some very experienced keepers can and do keep multiple chams together succesfully - but these are in greenhouse sized enclosures. You need to be VERY sensitive to signs of stress and I feel to able to do that you need years of experience.

Female veileds tend to have shorter life spans due to reproductive stresses (ie. large clutch sizes). Even if you restrict food intake (religiously) and can delay or at least reduce egg production - the egg-laying process is stressful. I wouldn't want to add an avoidable stress on top of that.

I had kept two Nosey Be panther females together for longer than I should have. I thought I was pretty astute at recognizing signs of stress. They were growing, eating, drinking - seemed just fine. When I did separate them - the difference was amazing! Their appetites took off and their activity levels increased. I will never be so presumptious again. ;)

Color changes and agression are obvious forms of stress - but there's alot more to chams than that.

My 2 cents. :)

Jaylyn

Xetox
04-08-03, 06:20 PM
Well my 2cents......I have a very large cam enclosure and I house 4 females together. These are my breeding females they have been together for 2 years now and see to be happier together than apart. I have tried both!

You just have to watch and see how they reacte to each other. When I seperate mine they seem to get stressed and wont eat, they have bonded and dont want to be apart!

Mike177
04-14-03, 07:19 PM
ya i might just go with safe that sorry and build a new cage later on and house a panther cham