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shaggybill
03-27-03, 12:48 PM
Ok, I have a friend in Oklahoma who is quite familiar with snakes and he says that he has found an EDB in the woods near his house. He swears its an EDB and not a WDB or something else. Do these snakes really live that far west and north? I'm having a hard time believing him...

Ed_r
03-27-03, 12:55 PM
Yes I have heard of a few scattered spots of EDB in Eastern OK, and TX. very few but some.

BWSmith
03-27-03, 02:18 PM
I would be VERY suprised to see documented evidence of admanteus that far west or north. Simply not the right habitat.

Ed_r
03-27-03, 02:22 PM
Cours i havent verified it, just hearsay.

Hamster of Borg
03-27-03, 02:59 PM
According to U of T's species account, EDBs have never been documented in TX.
I don't know about OK, but I highly doubt it.

Ham

KrokadilyanGuy3
03-27-03, 04:57 PM
...I live in Oklahoma and have caught all the native rattlers.
(Prairie Rattlesnake, Timber Rattlesnake, Western Cottonmouth
Western Diamondback Rattlesnake, Western Massasauga Rattlesnake, Western Pygmy Rattlesnake)
I've never heard from any fellow herpers in Ok, who have found any EDBs not to mention they barely come into La. and Ark. as far as I know anyways..
Xain
By the way, Im around Lawton/Ft. sill .. Youre friend anywhere near?

Nightflight99
03-27-03, 05:36 PM
The Eastern Diamondback (Crotalus adamanteus) does not occur in Texas nor Oklahoma. The western limit of their distribution range used to be extreme eastern Louisiana. However, there has not been a confirmed sighting in over a decade in Louisiana, and the species is therefore now believed to be extinct in the state. The western limit is now western Mississippi.

Remember, Crotalus atrox has a lot of morphological variety, which is likely due to the wide distribution range of that species. Some localities can be surprisingly dark in coloration, and may be mistaken for the eastern species by unexperienced naturalists.

Regards,

---Nightflight99