Green Vine snakes

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Hey all, I have a quick question...In a lot of pics that I have seen, most of the Green Vine snakes dont have the horizontal pupils. I know that Green Vines are known for this characteristic. Anyone know why they lack them sometimes? Hmm...

[Zoe]

I believe it is because they are diurnal, but I could be wrong

Zoe

[Hamster of Borg]

First off, there are several species referred to as the 'green vine snake' so some may be slightly different than others.

Second... their pupil dialates just like any other eye, so sometimes it may not be as readily apparent as other times.

http://www.ravnos.org/photos/venomous/kermit15.jpg

Ham

[Vanan]

Zoe, The horizontal pupil is not necessarily an indication of duirnal vision but rather stereoscopic vision.

Madhatter, I'd have to agree with Ham about the reason why you don't see the horizontal pupil, being the fact that it may be dilated acording to light intensity. Or in that it may not be the right species you're looking at. Go with Latin name's, less confusing. :)

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Thanks Hamster, Is that one yours? It's awesome. Green Vines are my favorte snake! Thanks for the info, heres one of the pics I was refering to.

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Sorry, I had to take the color out because the file wouldn't fit.

[Hamster of Borg]

Oxybelis is the South American genus of vine snake, while they look similar to the Asiatic species, it is only a case of convergent evolution (or s**t happens as I like to call it) they are very different animals.

Yeah, the pic I posted is one of my animals. I love the asian vines, they are incredible animals and so much personality. :)

Ham

[Big Mike]

That's a very cool looking snake you have there...I have not seen many people keeping those. It's nice to see some unusual snakes around here.

[Zoe]

That is one funky looking snake! Weird stuff... but very cool!

[silke]

holy carp Ham !!
that may be the funkiest looking snake i have ever seen...well vanan's furry (algae) water snake is right up there too
i think it's a tie for 1st place

[JD@reptiles]

I have kept 5 of Asian vine snakes. Aheatulla Nasuta and Aheatulla Prasnia. I find that Aheatulla Nasuta are HARD to keep alive and Aheatulla Prasnia MUCH easier. how ever I do have a few tricks up my sleeve to keep Aheatulla Nasuta alive. I also find Aheatulla Nasuta to be MUCH MUCH calmer than Aheatulla Prasnia. their is 7 different sub-species Asian vine snakes. I plan on dedicating my reptile years on trying to breed vine snakes in captivity and find out more about them. All of the Aheatulla snakes and Thelotornis snakes seem to have the best vision of any snake because of the horizontal pupils. But that's one of the big differences between Oxebellous and Aheatulla is the pupils. not to mention the length. an Oxebellous F. (central American green vine snake) can reach up to 8 Friggin feet long. than you have Oxebellous A. (brown vine snake) which is really cool looking and highly aggressive. when you go to clean their cage or run into them in the wild they will open there mouth BIG AND WIDE and I guess they are trying to say that they will bite. and you done want to be bitten by a vine snakes of any sort. I am almost 100% sure that all vine snakes are rear fanged and have a mild neo toxin that hurts ALOT. I personally have never been bitten but I do hear it hurts like hell. anyway back to Asian vine snakes. also with the shape of their nose it works kinda like cross hairs which gives them an accurate strike. Asian vine snakes give live birth having 2-25 neonates. central American are egg lays, laying 3-15 eggs depending on what kind. now I know I am blabbing on but if you want to know more about vine snakes Email me at ontario_herp_15@hotmail.com

I will be surprised if anyone reads this!

Jordan

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Woah thanks for the info! I couldn't find much on the Green Vine snake. The Asians look a lot cooler, the horizontal pupils are just awesome..Are they the only snake with them? Thanks again for the info!

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Woah thanks for the info! I couldn't find much on the Green Vine snake. The Asians look a lot cooler, the horizontal pupils are just awesome..Are they the only snake with them? Thanks again for the info!

[Ritus_Reptile]

JD i read your post! lol. I think its really cool that you know so much about such an uncommon species of snake. Good luck with your research, keep us posted i would really like to know more about them.

[JD@reptiles]

Hello agian.

Asian vine snakes are one of 2 different genusis that have horazontal pupils. The other species of snake that has horozantal pupils are the thelotornis genus which is better known as (Savanah Twig Snakes). i am not sure but i think the twig snake only has 2 sub species. Thelotornis Capensis and Thelotornis Kertlandii. i am just blabbing on agian. so you can just feel free to ask me more questions.

Have a nice day :)
Jordan

[JD@reptiles]

Sorry about the "neo" toxic venom thing. that was a typo. they have a mild neuro toxin venom which causes pain headache and nausea. symptoms can last for 1-3 weeks.

Jordan :)

[ThEmAdHaTtEr]

Damn! So if you get bit by a vine, your gunna have a 2 week headache? And your gunna be nautious too? WOW, thats crazy. Ever been bit?

[JD@reptiles]

Umm the main thing is the pain from the bite. the pain lasts the longest. the other symptoms last about a day to 3 days. and i have never been bitten. amd im glad:D. anyone out there trying to get rid of vine snakes? if so let me know! :D have a great day.

Jordan

[BAZ]

My earliest snake memory is with a green vine snake. I must have been about 9 or 10 and I was in India. A snake charmer came to our street and I sat with him and helped him with his show. I remember him passing me a green vine snake and I remember thinking it was the coolest thing coz I never saw anything like that before.

[JD@reptiles]

Hey Baz

cool pic of you at cat world.