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IHaveADogToo
11-05-18, 11:59 PM
Charles here is a Super Mojave. Just a few days ago I noticed what looked like black specks in this one spot on his back. At first I thought it might be mites, but then I realized I couldn't wipe them off and they didn't come off when I soaked him, either. He just shed yesterday and the black dots are gone, but now they're red dots. When I zoom in with the camera it looks like irritation between the scales and on the tips of the scales. See attached photo.

This is his second shed with me. It was a complete shed, all in one piece, eye caps and all. His first time shedding for me something similar happened. He developed some black dots in one spot by his mouth that, at first, I thought were mites, but they didn't move at all, and they went away when he shed. It didn't turn red like this time. Also, last time, it was another good, complete shed. That was over a month ago, no black dots at all since then, until just a few days ago, before this shed.

I know I keep dismissing mites... but... is it? Like I said, I never see the black dots move. They don't wipe off, or come off when he soaks. But they come off with his shed. I've never dealt with mites before, but from what I've heard that doesn't sound like mites. I'm also hesitant to say it's mites because I have springtails and isopods in the enclosure. I'm no expert but I've been told they eat mite eggs? But I don't know what else this could be. Is this just something weird he does when he sheds? Why do his scales look irritated? Is this maybe scale rot? I recently realized I've been keeping his humidity too high, and I've had him for a few months. Maybe that could be what's happening? His humidity has been closer to 65% and sometimes even 75% pretty much this entire time.

This is my first snake and I'm doing my best, but I clearly have a lot to learn. That is why I'm here for help. I'll correct the humidity issue regardless, now that I realize I've been doing that wrong, but what do you more experienced snake keepers think these spots may be?

To be clear, there are no black spots on him now since this shed, just these red spots.

Aaron_S
11-06-18, 01:40 PM
Doesn't look like mites? What kind of hides and substrate do you use and what is the humidity?

IHaveADogToo
11-06-18, 07:55 PM
The humidity is at 62% at this exact moment. But it WAS higher, between 65% and 75% for a couple of months, until I started to research what this problem might be and realized I've been keeping the humidity too high. I've been letting the humidity drop since then and it's at 62% right now.

The substrate is a mixture of coconut fiber and cypress mulch, several inches deep, with sphagnum moss mixed into the top couple of inches, and some leaf litter on top of that. One hide is cork wood and the other is one of those half log hides they sell at the pet store, with it's back opening buried under the substrate so it's only open on the front. It's an exo terra large low.

Andy_G
11-07-18, 10:18 AM
This could be from a very superficial abrasion but it's hard to know. It looks nothing like mites from the pictures. If your snake is eating and behaving normally, I wouldn't worry too much about this, but keep an eye on it and if things change after next shed for the worse it may be worthwhile consulting a vet.

IHaveADogToo
11-07-18, 11:59 AM
Thank you. Tonight will be feeding night (I'm at work right now) so we'll see. He was already in food mode last night, per usual, and I haven't noticed any out of the ordinary behavioral changes. I will provide updates as the situation develops.

OlWolf
04-26-19, 07:44 AM
Heard those white snakes can stain from the tannins in the bedding. Also, not all BELs are totally pigment-free... some have yellow or peach splotches, depending on the combo to produce it. Light snakes can develop color over time, like a Dalmatian pup - so can be white at hatching, and develop some color specks or splotches with coming sheds as they grow. Some even have a yellow dorsal line.