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My carpet always ate small quails. Since they are small I was linking them to each other. 3 weeks ago I linked them in bad way so snake started eating and when first quail was in her mouth second didn't come. So snake had one quail in her mouth and tread linking to another quails. Snake start panic and try to escape. Tread was hindering her to escape. I went to take scissors but she left eaten quail and went to her hide.
It was 3 weeks ago. Yesterday she shed and didn't eat again.
Should I wait another week ?
thanks.
EL Ziggy
05-27-18, 07:18 PM
I'd wait a week or two and try again. Why do you string them together? Can't you just offer the 2nd prey item after she finishes the 1st?
I'd wait a week or two and try again. Why do you string them together? Can't you just offer the 2nd prey item after she finishes the 1st?
I give 6 quails and after first she go to her hide. Plus she is shy eater. Almost never took food from tweezers.
Yesterday after I placed quails in her viv, take from hide and place her on branches. In 5 mins she went down to sniff every quail. After that she back to branches and lowered her head and part of body in strike shape and start starring at quails. That behavior was 3 times(weeks) already. Usually she starts eating quails after 2-3 rounds of sniffing all quails. She almost never strikes quails, it's looks like she takes quail carefully from a nest and runs away.
There is one thing. Yesterday while she was shedding she yawned at least 4 times. Can it be a bad sign ?
this is how she looks like right now
https://i.imgur.com/HmNefxL.png
https://i.imgur.com/HfEaRxj.png
today I was in a market. Two women was selling live chickens to rise them and getting eggs.
So they give me two died very recently chickens. I used to feed my snake at night only. But today I awake her and give her first chicken ever. She didn't strike. Feed box gave nothing.
I have let her go to her branches and she went from branches to her hide. But I removed her hide and place there a chicken. She was keeping looking her hide but was sniffing a chicken a lot too. Then again was searching her hide and again sniffing. It was a lot times and finally she took a chicken in the middle. It was fail. She tried several times and finally found a head and ate it. :)
https://i.imgur.com/AVM6rBY.png
EL Ziggy
05-30-18, 07:59 AM
I'm glad she ate again for you kazz. Your girl looks pretty healthy though even if she doesn't eat much. You must be a very patient person. I can't imagine regularly feeding a snake more than 2 prey items at a time and then wondering if those will be wasted. If she wants to eat that sporadically you could offer her less food less often and perhaps she'll be more likely to eat whenever food is presented. You might try scaling her back to every 3-4 weeks and see if she improves. That's the schedule my albino carpet was on when she was younger and rarely eating. She's gotten more consistent and now she eats about every 2 weeks.
Thanks.
If she wants to eat that sporadically you could offer her less food less often and perhaps she'll be more likely to eat whenever food is presented.
No. She was regular eater until last time I was describing at a topic. Though she strike twice for whole time. She was eating 30% of her weight food long time also. So size is not a problem.
I scale her and she is 500g+ and she is less 1 year.
Still refuses quails =/
It means snakes have a good memory. At least carpet pythons.
I am really confused. My snake had treatment so I had to put into her mouth a tube giving her a drug. It was 4 days ago. If it's really stressed her she should stay in her hide box but instead of this she is trying get out from her viv every night and refuse her food.
EL Ziggy
06-13-18, 11:42 AM
What kind of treatment was she on jazz? She just ate 2 weeks ago so that's no problem.
What kind of treatment was she on jazz?
It was a treatment of coccidiosis: Trafigal 90mg/kg - 1st day + 5 days 45mg/kg.
She just ate 2 weeks ago so that's no problem.
She ate 2 times for more than a month and now refuses food. Usually she ate every 5-7 days. And it seems to me I can see her spine.
https://i.imgur.com/iKzNk5b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fxniTl8.jpg
It was a treatment of coccidiosis: Trafigal 90mg/kg - 1st day + 5 days 45mg/kg.
She ate 2 times for more than a month and now refuses food. Usually she ate every 5-7 days. And it seems to me I can see her spine.
https://i.imgur.com/iKzNk5b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fxniTl8.jpg
Did your snake get diagnosed with having coccidia? Your snake looks fine. You probably aren't used to seeing it without food in it's body. Nothing sounds or looks abnormal .Every 5 days ay that size and age is too frequent to feed as well in my opinion.
Did your snake get diagnosed with having coccidia?
During treatment she defecated twice. First time excrement was a bit watery at the end of it. Second time excrement was full solid. As it was in the middle of treatment and it was solid there's no reason to test it.
Your snake looks fine. You probably aren't used to seeing it without food in it's body. Nothing sounds or looks abnormal .Every 5 days ay that size and age is too frequent to feed as well in my opinion.
She is almost 1 year. And last 2 month she ate every 7 days. Don't carpets grow until 4 years and should be feed every 5-7 days?
During treatment she defecated twice. First time excrement was a bit watery at the end of it. Second time excrement was full solid. As it was in the middle of treatment and it was solid there's no reason to test it.
She is almost 1 year. And last 2 month she ate every 7 days. Don't carpets grow until 4 years and should be feed every 5-7 days?
So you treated her "just in case" then?
I wouldn't be feeding a carpet of any age any more often than once a week.
So you treated her "just in case" then?
I treated her bc death of coccidiosis among chicks is 90% and she ate a chicken with coccidia. I didn't want waiting until coccidia flood a snake and all her viv.
I wouldn't be feeding a carpet of any age any more often than once a week.
Thanks. I am going feed her once a week until she is 4 years.
I treated her bc death of coccidiosis among chicks is 90% and she ate a chicken with coccidia. I didn't want waiting until coccidia flood a snake and all her viv.
Thanks. I am going feed her once a week until she is 4 years.
I see. Well, it's certainly normal for a snake to fast, especially after treatment. I'm sure she is fine, Kazz.
Andy_G, thanks. So when she'll become hunger she start eating ? And How long should I wait until force-feeding ?
EL Ziggy
06-14-18, 10:09 AM
Why are you considering force feeding if she ate a few weeks ago? Just give her 2 weeks and try her again. There's really no need to feed your carpet every 5-7 days after their first year. They don't need nearly that much food. I feed my carpets every 5-7 days the first year, every 10-14 days the second year, and every 2-3 weeks after that.
Andy_G, thanks. So when she'll become hunger she start eating ? And How long should I wait until force-feeding ?
It's hard to know when she will begin eating again. Continue to offer once a week and don't consider force feeding or assist feeding until significant body weight is lost - I would assume at least 6 months of not eating, but probably longer than that. Try to be patient.
Edit : It may be a good idea to offer every 2 weeks instead of weekly as El Ziggy mentioned. Less food wasted if it doesn't eat.
They don't need nearly that much food. I feed my carpets every 5-7 days the first year, every 10-14 days the second year, and every 2-3 weeks after that.
Oh I didn't know that after 1 year once in 10-14 days is ok. Thanks. There is no such information in care sheets of carpet pythons.
It's hard to know when she will begin eating again. Continue to offer once a week and don't consider force feeding or assist feeding until significant body weight is lost - I would assume at least 6 months of not eating, but probably longer than that. Try to be patient.
Edit : It may be a good idea to offer every 2 weeks instead of weekly as El Ziggy mentioned. Less food wasted if it doesn't eat.
Thanks a lot:yes:.
This is how she refuses her food.
https://youtu.be/dWZ1b8gdbm4
Well. I think the reason why my snake refuses her food may be in what Viperkeeper says:
https://youtu.be/uBZsoLs5IDI?t=359
... I mean after her treatment (shoving a tube into her mouth 6 days) she need a time to trust me again.
TeamSlitherin
06-18-18, 06:23 AM
Based on this video, I strongly suggest not removing your snakes hide when you try to feed her. Was she in her hide when you tried to feed her? She just looks like she's nervous and doesn't have anywhere to escape.
Make sure the prey item is very warm (around 38 degrees) and dangle it outside the entrance to her hide if she is in it. And if she doesn't seem interested, just leave it for a bit and she may take it when you are not watching. Some snakes are just very shy feeders. Just continue to offer once every 7-10 days. As long as her husbandry is good, she will eventually eat.
Based on this video, I strongly suggest not removing your snakes hide when you try to feed her.
Was she in her hide when you tried to feed her?
Thanks for reply.
Yes she was. But a lot of ppl feed their snakes at day time? for example these guys
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7eDUKwhU6QW_KXWW_4HOqKp-yEy4unPI
Anyway she refuses her at night too.
Make sure the prey item is very warm (around 38 degrees) and dangle it outside the entrance to her hide if she is in it.
Didn't work.
Some snakes are just very shy feeders. My snake that type of snakes.
Just continue to offer once every 7-10 days. ppl above say after one year 10-14 days period between feeding is correct.
TeamSlitherin
06-18-18, 04:58 PM
Thanks for reply.
Yes she was. But a lot of ppl feed their snakes at day time? for example these guys
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7eDUKwhU6QW_KXWW_4HOqKp-yEy4unPI
Anyway she refuses her at night too.
Didn't work.
My snake that type of snakes.
ppl above say after one year 10-14 days period between feeding is correct.
Oh yes, I’m sorry. The feeding schedule you’ve been advised on is perfect. I meant don’t try to offer too soon if she refuses. Sorry for the confusion :) Feeding during the day is fine, just let her keep her hide. I have a very shy feeder and I realized I was scaring her by removing her hide to feed. When I stopped doing that, she began eating much more consistently. It’s just a security thing. ;)
Her body condition looks good, so don’t be worried if she skips a few meals. They all eat eventually!
When I stopped doing that, she began eating much more consistently. It’s just a security thing.
!
Perhaps your snake's hide has a big entrance and close to floor?
BC if hide has upper entrance it's no real feed a snake don't removing it's hide.
Actually my snake ate yesterday but it was one unhatched quail, but I am glade she started anyway.
So.
She ate almost 5 days ago and didn't appear from her hide.
Today ) looked under her hide and found a white feces (as far as I know it's solid urine ).
Why she stay at her hide ?
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