Missing Colubrid Section?

[Scubadiver59]

Why isn't there a Bullsnake (Pituophis catenifer sayi) section under the Colubrids?? Hmmm....?

I'm looking at another snake to add to my collection, a Bull Snake, it's about a year old, and I'm getting it, a 40gal Zilla terrarium, lights, and cage furniture for a c-note...not a bad deal. Waiting for seller to respond to see if we do the transfer this weekend.

I'd like to see a Bullsnake section...I mean, we have a Corn and King section, and just because there are probably more collectors of those than Bulls, doesn't mean the Bulls should be left out in the cold! I demand equality!!! :rolleyes:

[Aaron_S]

Well you bring up a good point. However, our colubrid section isn't overly popular so we'll have to wait and see. At any rate we need to update the corn snake scientific name if it continues with it's own sub-forum!

[Scubadiver59]

Aaron...in a way I was being facetious, but looking through some of the other reptile sections there aren't that many posts in some of the them, so I have to wonder why those were created. It's not like any moderators would have a huge workload monitoring any posts, etc. in a new Bull section, but I'm just looking out for the other Bull owners. :)

True, I don't know the work involved in adding another section...maybe just clicking a few buttons in a GUI and adding a title and description for the new section, I'm not sure, but....mmmm, please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOJ-nUtA1yw

But hey, if you can create one for the Bull owners, fantastic? If not, I might kindly remind you from time to time, or when I next add a Taiwanese Beauty Snake (Orthriophis taeniurus) to my collection and ask why there's no section for Rat Snake owners! :rolleyes:

Well you bring up a good point. However, our colubrid section isn't overly popular so we'll have to wait and see. At any rate we need to update the corn snake scientific name if it continues with it's own sub-forum!

[jjhill001]

I think just posting in the generic colubrid section is the best way to have questions answered at a decent rate. Kind of useless to separate them when the care is all so similar.

[Scubadiver59]

Sure, then let's lump all the boa's, python's, etc. into just general sections...kind of useless to separate them when the care is all so similar.

I think just posting in the generic colubrid section is the best way to have questions answered at a decent rate. Kind of useless to separate them when the care is all so similar.

[TRD]

I never look at the subforums and just click on "Unread Posts"... then you just see everything which has been posted new, regardless of which forum it is on. Much easier then going through all the separate subforums.

[Scubadiver59]

Sure, once you get caught up when one first joins...but who wants to go back through the "general" sections, and read through every post, when one could concentrate on the individual snake one has a question on, or just to look at photos, etc.

And yes, I know "search" exists, but it doesn't always filter correctly through the mountain of posts like it should.

I never look at the subforums and just click on "Unread Posts"... then you just see everything which has been posted new, regardless of which forum it is on. Much easier then going through all the separate subforums.

[akane]

Well I don't know about "bull snake" specifically seeing as they are a subspecies of the gopher snake anyway but an overall pituophis section is a little more justifiable. I'm adding a pair of norhern pines and another bull or 2 to my current 2 this fall. I might be at my limit for larger snakes then but pituophis lineaticollis has caught my eye if I ever did have space.

[Tsubaki]

I never look at the subforums and just click on "Unread Posts"... then you just see everything which has been posted new, regardless of which forum it is on. Much easier then going through all the separate subforums.


I do the same, when I just joined I think I spend weeks just reading everything I could find :D I still get a tiny bit sad when i see "No unread posts available" I think the subforums are useful for the people who follow them specifically, no matter if they're quieter than others.

[EL Ziggy]

I have to concur. A Pituophis section would be nice. :)

[Aaron_S]

Aaron...in a way I was being facetious, but looking through some of the other reptile sections there aren't that many posts in some of the them, so I have to wonder why those were created. It's not like any moderators would have a huge workload monitoring any posts, etc. in a new Bull section, but I'm just looking out for the other Bull owners. :)

True, I don't know the work involved in adding another section...maybe just clicking a few buttons in a GUI and adding a title and description for the new section, I'm not sure, but....mmmm, please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOJ-nUtA1yw

But hey, if you can create one for the Bull owners, fantastic? If not, I might kindly remind you from time to time, or when I next add a Taiwanese Beauty Snake (Orthriophis taeniurus) to my collection and ask why there's no section for Rat Snake owners! :rolleyes:

Most of the forums were here before the resurrection of the website about 10 years ago. I just think there hasn't been much need of a reconfigure of it. Maybe it's time to discuss it.

Sure, then let's lump all the boa's, python's, etc. into just general sections...kind of useless to separate them when the care is all so similar.

Original reason the separation was done was because so many pics and questions where species specific in a general section. It cluttered up finding information for the lesser kept species.

[Scubadiver59]

Most of the forums were here before the resurrection of the website about 10 years ago. I just think there hasn't been much need of a reconfigure of it. Maybe it's time to discuss it.

Original reason the separation was done was because so many pics and questions where species specific in a general section. It cluttered up finding information for the lesser kept species.

I'm typing this on my iPhone so excuse the lack of including other quotes from other forum posters! :)

Including the "gophers" would be nice as another poster, Akane, posted previously.

The sarcastic "general thread" for all snakes was in response to jjhill001's posting to the same...I'm surprised you didn't catch that, Aaron!!

[akane]

Yeah, I mostly hit the unread post button but with limited species knowledge I sometimes have to double check where I ended up to be careful what I say or at least how I say it. My hardy, humidity and temp range tolerant North American natives are not the same in many cases and I only have the sumatran as an exception, which is far from the most sensitive thing physically. More temperamental about being in his ideal comfort level than usually much of a physical health risk as mostly confirmed by a recent thread in the blood python specific group.

[jjhill001]

Sure, then let's lump all the boa's, python's, etc. into just general sections...kind of useless to separate them when the care is all so similar.

When you get down to brass tacks is there that much of a difference in care between a boa constrictor and a ball python outside of the size of the enclosure and food?

I just meant that more people peruse the general colubrid section and because it doesn't have the crazy popularity that some of the individual python/boa species it's a little unnecessary given that 95% of the questions are about NA colubrids.

[dannybgoode]

When you get down to brass tacks is there that much of a difference in care between a boa constrictor and a ball python outside of the size of the enclosure and food?

So all the key elements of care then ;).

Personally I like the sub sections - even the quiet ones - as there's valuable information in there when researching a species of interest and I wouldn't want to go trawling through a load of posts unrelated to the animal in question.

One thing I think that makes a forum different to a facebook group for example is that it is more curated and is an excellent archive of information and this would be lost to an extent if we starting lumping a whole load of stuff together.

[akane]

There are distinct differences in most species well beyond feed and water it. We joke on the blood python group about not trying to explain the species. Just accept they are different lol My sstp frustrates me and makes me shake my head when he chooses some weird option for comfort or decides some detail of how he needs specially fed for this month. Why he stayed in the cool areas over winter while it was cold and now hasn't left the warm side when it's getting a bit too hot in here some days I don't know. Ask Eoghan but all I got today was a strike at my arm for seeing if he was ready to eat a live mouse and it accidentally falling on him. Ha, I knew he would get pissy about me trying to recapture the mouse so I had a strip of slate held in the hand with the tongs which he failed to get around. I was talking to someone today about how they took a bullsnake simply because everyone else was too scared of it's bluffing strikes and how amusing it becomes when you realize just how serious or not they are. Completely contrary to the python I can dump a bullsnake most anywhere and in a few days they are unconcerned about their environment where I've been working on getting that python to settle in around people and dogs since Jan with amazing progress in that he actually crosses the bin now instead of being a statue that eats when live food runs by him enough. The bulls face a threat and play rattlesnake until they determine it's not actually going to do anything and then like the corn snake are everywhere. The pickiness, stress level, etc... of each snake species and therefore things like why they aren't eating is not the same. Even the more similar ones have some details.

[Scubadiver59]

So all the key elements of care then ;).

Personally I like the sub sections - even the quiet ones - as there's valuable information in there when researching a species of interest and I wouldn't want to go trawling through a load of posts unrelated to the animal in question.

One thing I think that makes a forum different to a facebook group for example is that it is more curated and is an excellent archive of information and this would be lost to an extent if we starting lumping a whole load of stuff together.

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[Magdalen]

I'm going to be facetious too. I want a House Snake sub-forum!!!! I'd be the only one in there haha.

I'm kidding btw.