View Full Version : About 100 dead pythons discovered in Florida home
Macropodus
03-31-17, 03:58 AM
About 100 dead pythons discovered in Florida home | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/31/about-100-dead-pythons-discovered-in-florida-home.html)
Scubadiver59
03-31-17, 05:41 AM
I'm sorry, but my compassion just died too...throw that woman in jail!!
:mad: Ridiculous, what is wrong with some people. I want the absolute best for each of my pets.
jay's reptiles
03-31-17, 07:10 AM
This women needs to pay more than a 5,000 dollar fine. Needs to pay about 50,000 to about 150,000!!! This is ridiculous, poor babies. All they wanted was a good home and life :(
That's pretty sad... I am always shock and discussed on how low man can go...:sorry:
Jim Smith
03-31-17, 08:06 AM
It sounds like an ignorant person trying to "get rich" breeding and selling Ball Pythons. It's a bit like the puppy mills that do much the same thing with dogs. That said, I agree that the prescribed punishment is not harsh enough.
afsgr88
03-31-17, 08:10 AM
The comments on the article are just ridiculous... "It should be absolutely illegal to own pythons", bla bla bla -.-'
Poor babies :(
SnoopySnake
03-31-17, 08:10 AM
This is awful.....but I find it rather frustrating that the charges would be much worse if these were dogs or cats :(
GyGbeetle
03-31-17, 08:11 AM
OMG!!!!! The justice does not fit the crime. She should have mandatory jail time, and a much higher bail. What is wrong with people?????
Magdalen
03-31-17, 10:41 AM
The comments on the article are just ridiculous... "It should be absolutely illegal to own pythons", bla bla bla -.-'
Poor babies :(
Well, considering it's a Fox News site I'm not surprised there are ridiculous comments.
But yeah those poor snakes :\
GyGbeetle
03-31-17, 12:03 PM
This is awful.....but I find it rather frustrating that the charges would be much worse if these were dogs or cats :(
Fines for animal neglect aren't much different for dogs and cats. Something that myself and others in the rescue industry are trying to fight. It just became a felony to fight a dog, just over a year ago, and local law enforcement has not been quick to adopt this law, as most get away with merely a slap on the wrist.
The issue lies with evidence in prosecuting. More often than not, neglect and abuse is only defined during necropsy. so what happens when you seize an animal that has been grossly malnourished, and a rescue organization steps up to adopt the animal? Do you keep it in quarantine pending further investigation and evidence? No. You allow the rescue organization to take in the suffering animal and put it on a path to mend the animal, eradicating your evidence in the process.
It's a double edged sword.
Macropodus
03-31-17, 12:29 PM
... shock and discussed on how low man can go...
You mean "shocked" , and "disgusted" , and "woman".
... considering it's a Fox News site I'm not surprised there are ridiculous comments....
yeah almost as bad as CNN... almost.
Magdalen
03-31-17, 01:02 PM
Hmmm I didn't know CNN was bad too. People man.
Stick the woman in a plastic tub and let her be for 10 months or so.
BP's don't starve that easily..
Tsubaki
04-03-17, 06:06 AM
You mean "shocked" , and "disgusted" , and "woman".
yeah almost as bad as CNN... almost.
Man as in Mankind is how I read it, makes sense. Anyway.. This is absolutely horrible :(
With abandonment mentioned I wonder if they were even living with anyone or left in a house to easily be forgotten when care became too difficult or annoying for what they thought they'd get out of having them. You can abandon something in another part of your house but it's not usually stated that way instead of just left as neglect. I'm not sure what you call inadequate exercise of a snake. I wouldn't think official size requirements were that hard to meet so someone had to really not care about the snakes to cram them in there like that.
These events should not happen and it's sad but unfortunately I see the other side due to paranoid neighbors or a single pet buyer too often to back most of the reactions suggesting ways to prevent future events when these things make the news. Increasing laws and punishment to make people want to avoid breaking them ends up harming more responsible people than the number of truly bad situations they stop. The real mills often get around it, aren't out much if their animals are all taken because they are usually cheaply acquired stock, possibly mutts that pass as close enough, with health issues anyway, or can afford the fees and find a way to open elsewhere under another name. This is in the news because how often do 100 pythons get found dead from neglect? The number of what amount to illegal seizures is far higher. Go look at the comments again. Back laws to restrict things and those people will run with them. Many of us raising small "livestock" for meat or those raising for snake food have to be paranoid because of the pet laws out there for mammals already. Far more often to the point it doesn't even make the news anymore unless it's extra special rabbit breeders, including national champions, have had their stock taken, improperly cared for by idiot "rescuers" who were only familiar with pets so that some died rapidly, and sterilized for a waste of lots of money and the ruining of a valuable breeding line or entire rare breed to then take up pet homes or spend their life in a shelter. Usually because of a few stupid things that were more personal issues with some people such as dead animals in the freezer that were all purposely put down and destined to be food or fully legal keeping of them on wire floors with no sign of foot damage. People have been fined $100,000s on their little well cared for operation they mostly run for themselves for selling over the $500 you are allowed to make in animal sales yearly without USDA inspection. How fast do how any people go over that without knowing it exists? At least 5 well known cases in rabbits made that major oops and got it on the record books. Some of these people were selling rabbits for $20 when some sell show rabbits or new imported guinea pig breeds for $100+ each. Rat breeders have had their entire stock seized too without any real cause except vague interpretation of some law that probably wasn't written with that purpose. I just saw one posted to a group recently. A lot of people can't even say why it happened until months later when someone figures out something they can actually write down as breaking a law. Once you get started law enforcement often then forgets actual laws exist altogether or to at least verify the existence/meaning of them. If the local groups speak loudly enough suddenly USDA requirements and legal processes go out the window to be replaced by requirements made up by pet owners and animal rights activists who walk off with the animals right then and there. Many can't even get a lawyer fast enough to counter any of the results of the seizures that have happened.
TheVoid
06-06-17, 12:32 PM
Poor babies. This makes my heart break.
toddnbecka
06-06-17, 11:55 PM
I suspect the woman has some serious mental health or drug addiction issues considering the condition of the house as well as the dead animals.
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