Difference between a performer and an artist.

[trailblazer295]

Sad and funny

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[Minkness]

Who are they?

[Humble308]

Haha, isn't he supposed to be headed yalls way Trail?

[trailblazer295]

Who are they?

Guy on the right is Gord Downie lead singer of The Tragically Hip. He is diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. They just did a sold out Canada tour this past summer after they announced it. He toured with his doctor.

[dannybgoode]

And who is the guy on the left...

[trailblazer295]

Haha, isn't he supposed to be headed yalls way Trail?

Not anymore, all canceled. Last show he was an hour and a half late, did 2 songs, went on a political rant of who he would have voted for had be been bothered to vote and left.

[trailblazer295]

And who is the guy on the left...

I envy you not knowing. Can't escape that idiot over here.

[MartinD]

..........He toured with his doctor.

Dr Who....?

[Andy_G]

Left- Kanye West
Right - Gord Downie

Kanye West is a pouty attention seeking narcissist who was recently hospitalized because of "temporary psychosis due to dehydration and exhaustion"...so basically he had to cancel his tour because he needed a nap and a bottle and he had a tantrum on stage. He's known for knocking boots with Kim Kardashian and having a baby with her, being very outspoken and arrogant, and also for interrupting other performers while accepting awards or during performances. He used to be viewed asd very talented, humble and level headed but once his mother died about 7 or 8 years ago...maybe more...he completely changed.

Gord Downie is the singer in a band called The Tragically Hip, and is a Canadian icon who was recently diagnosed with terminal brain cancer and they just finished a country wide tour of which Gords oncologist toured with them to observe him for the duration of the tour and give him the medical treatment he required while touring. The guy can't even remember his kids names at this point but he was able to muster up enough strength and courage to do what he loves and put on many shows for our country with the aide of teleprompters so he can remember the words to his own songs. For the finale of the tour, the CBC (our national broadcasting company) actually postponed olympic coverage in order to nationally air their last concert without any ads. He will actually be putting on a few solo shows in the next upcoming months even though he is knocking on death's door. If you've never heard of the Tragically Hip, definitely give a few songs a listen on youtube...I recommend "Courage", the same song that the nursing/care/medical staff at the hospital which he was being treated at before the tour sang to him.

Now you might understand the meme. :)

[trailblazer295]

^^^^^ this

[Albert Clark]

Left- Kanye West
Right - Gord Downie

Kanye West is a pouty attention seeking narcissist who was recently hospitalized because of "temporary psychosis due to dehydration and exhaustion"...so basically he had to cancel his tour because he needed a nap and a bottle and he had a tantrum on stage. He's known for knocking boots with Kim Kardashian and having a baby with her, being very outspoken and arrogant, and also for interrupting other performers while accepting awards or during performances. He used to be viewed asd very talented, humble and level headed but once his mother died about 7 or 8 years ago...maybe more...he completely changed.

Gord Downie is the singer in a band called The Tragically Hip, and is a Canadian icon who was recently diagnosed with terminal brain cancer and they just finished a country wide tour of which Gords oncologist toured with them to observe him for the duration of the tour and give him the medical treatment he required while touring. The guy can't even remember his kids names at this point but he was able to muster up enough strength and courage to do what he loves and put on many shows for our country with the aide of teleprompters so he can remember the words to his own songs. For the finale of the tour, the CBC (our national broadcasting company) actually postponed olympic coverage in order to nationally air their last concert without any ads. He will actually be putting on a few solo shows in the next upcoming months even though he is knocking on death's door. If you've never heard of the Tragically Hip, definitely give a few songs a listen on youtube...I recommend "Courage", the same song that the nursing/care/medical staff at the hospital which he was being treated at before the tour sang to him.

Now you might understand the meme. :) Wow! Before you continue to spew out your personal rhetoric about Mr. Kanye West you should know that he is a well respected American rapper , songwriter, record producer. He also is a fashion designer and entrepreneur. And his wife is Kim Kardashian and they are legally married. He may be suffering from P.T.S.D.
It's (P.T.S.D.) very prevalent among entertainers and military and para military personell.

[dannybgoode]

Wow! Before you continue to spew out your personal rhetoric about Mr. Kanye West you should know that he is a well respected American rapper , songwriter, record producer. He also is a fashion designer and entrepreneur. And his wife is Kim Kardashian and they are legally married. He may be suffering from P.T.S.D.
It's (P.T.S.D.) very prevalent among entertainers and military and para military personell.

I agree - from what I've heard KW may be suffering from genuine and significant mental health issues. As someone who has suffered from severe depression and as someone who has recently lost someone to cancer I find neither a laughing matter.

Note I am not offended in any way at all (I am almost impossible to offend!) but by the same token I think too many people underestimate how debilitating mental health issues are whilst having the utmost empathy for those suffering from physical health problems.

I make this comment more to stimulate a discussion on the matter than anything else BTW

EDIT - personally I cannot stand KW or his missus but if his mental health issues are as reported then he has my sympathy

[Albert Clark]

Understandable views... We all have our opinions and they can't all be 100% on point. Kanye West is a grammy award winning artist (21) is known as the most grammy awarded artist of all time. He has sold more than 32 million albums worldwide and 100 million digital downloads. He really needs our support.

[Andy_G]

Wow! Before you continue to spew out your personal rhetoric about Mr. Kanye West you should know that he is a well respected...

"Respected" is a very strong word in this case, but thanks for the tip...i'll be much more careful in relaying my "rhetoric" in the joke forum.

[Minkness]

Eh, I don't think milliares 'need' our support. Mental health or not, he's proven to be just as much an a** as he is tallented. Having tallent and having respect are two very different things. KW aad Kim K are more the butt of jokes, hype, gossip, and other such things....for a reason. Same happened to Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan. Both are very tallented but had some pretty low times in their lives.

So yeah... Ritch and Highly Awarded doesn't really equal respect.

Not trying to bash anyone, but this is my take on this.

[MartinD]

I agree - from what I've heard KW may be suffering from genuine and significant mental health issues. As someone who has suffered from severe depression and as someone who has recently lost someone to cancer I find neither a laughing matter.

Note I am not offended in any way at all (I am almost impossible to offend!) but by the same token I think too many people underestimate how debilitating mental health issues are whilst having the utmost empathy for those suffering from physical health problems.

I make this comment more to stimulate a discussion on the matter than anything else BTW

EDIT - personally I cannot stand KW or his missus but if his mental health issues are as reported then he has my sympathy

I understand the mental health issues as I was a qualified psychiatric nurse, I also lost my wife to kidney cancer in November 2015 and I also have physical problems as I suffer from Lumbar and Cervical Spondylosis and I agree with Danny on all 3 of his points.

[Albert Clark]

We're all entitled to our own opinion and feelings. The denigrations and profanity is language that is unnecessary and counterproductive. There is a way to "bash" someone or something without being demeaning and or hitting below the belt. Rich or not Kanye West is still a human being with a heart and dignity and who is a parent, a husband, a brother, and a cousin to someone.

[Minkness]

I can understand your views on that, however he clearly didn't and still doesn't when he constantly steals attention, puts others down, shows no support for anyone but his own, and completely disrespects soooooo many others on such a massive scale. Mental health or not, that is NOT respectable on any level.

[Andy_G]

...joke forum...aaand i'm with mink.

[Albert Clark]

I can understand your views on that, however he clearly didn't and still doesn't when he constantly steals attention, puts others down, shows no support for anyone but his own, and completely disrespects soooooo many others on such a massive scale. Mental health or not, that is NOT respectable on any level. And that's merely your opinion...

...joke forum...aaand i'm with mink.. And that's fine... I stand my own ground without any validation.

[EL Ziggy]

I haven't really felt K-West since his 2nd album. He is a talented artist but I don't care much for his music these days or his personality. His wife is gorgeous but not very talented IMO. Can't knock their hustle though. They've both been VERY successful.

[Humble308]

Very well said Z and about where I stand on it. Sadly I think we're seeing that across the board. I can hardly stomach the stuff I hear on the radio any more.

The lady and I got out to Red Rocks a few months ago to see Dylan and man what an experience. I'll die if I can go back and see John Prine! Pity I have to retreat to the 60s and 70s for good tunes.

[MartinD]

Very well said Z and about where I stand on it. Sadly I think we're seeing that across the board. I can hardly stomach the stuff I hear on the radio any more.

The lady and I got out to Red Rocks a few months ago to see Dylan and man what an experience. I'll die if I can go back and see John Prine! Pity I have to retreat to the 60s and 70s for good tunes.

50's, 60's and 70's best music EVER...imo and one of my favourite films is American Graffiti. I found the documentary called 'The Day The Music Died' on YouTube a while ago, which tells of the tragic loss of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J P Richardson aka The Big Bopper, really worth watching.

[Minkness]

Not liking 'todays' music is just the first hint we are getting old lol. I am not too keen on most of te newer music or artists but still love my 80's, 90's, and early 00's.

Not quite as dated as some, but I'm feeling it more with each passing year. Just a new generation is coming along is all. =)

[Humble308]

50's, 60's and 70's best music EVER...imo and one of my favourite films is American Graffiti. I found the documentary called 'The Day The Music Died' on YouTube a while ago, which tells of the tragic loss of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J P Richardson aka The Big Bopper, really worth watching.

Absolutely. Theres another on Netflix right now called "The Other One: Strange weird trip of Bob Weir" or something like. Really interesting one if you're into the Grateful Dead

[trailblazer295]

Understandable views... We all have our opinions and they can't all be 100% on point. Kanye West is a grammy award winning artist (21) is known as the most grammy awarded artist of all time. He has sold more than 32 million albums worldwide and 100 million digital downloads. He really needs our support.

I don't consider grammys a measure of how good or bad an artist is. Modern artists have won far more then legends of many years ago. Does that make them better then them no. They sell more albums now but we also have more people and people have more money. Also 32 million worldwide isn't a lot compared to others around now. Eminem has sold 172 million albums worldwide.

[RAD House]

You all are really showing your age. If you are listening to pop music and saying all modern music is crap than you have your head under a rock. Not to mention the current state of pop music is largely due to acts like the Beatles. Through out current musical genres the musicians of today are reaching a level that the "gods of rock and roll" could have only imagined. 50s and 60s popular music was just taking music that had been popular in the black community and making it white washed for the masses. There was some real progression that happened in the 70's, I will give you that but there still was disco. The music of the eighties is in large a joke. Come on now broaden your horizons a bit folks.

[TRD]

Being popular doesn't mean you are a good artist. The same as being sold worldwide doesn't make CocaCola a good beverage.

Grammies are just that. An award, a recognition of your success (mainly in sales and commercially related).

Most of the ground breaking music is produced by people known only to a (in comparison) small crowd. Then picked up by a record label who puts a face on it and commercializes it to make profit.

If you think most of current musicians write their own songs you are grossly mistaken. Everything up to the specific tones and melodies has been experimented with an evaluated to appeal to the majority of the public. Producers can make anyone with some appeal (whether personality or appearance) a music 'star' with that data.

REAL artists in the music industry these days are few and far between and barely able to make a real living out of it.

[RAD House]

Being popular doesn't mean you are a good artist. The same as being sold worldwide doesn't make CocaCola a good beverage.

Grammies are just that. An award, a recognition of your success (mainly in sales and commercially related).

Most of the ground breaking music is produced by people known only to a (in comparison) small crowd. Then picked up by a record label who puts a face on it and commercializes it to make profit.

If you think most of current musicians write their own songs you are grossly mistaken. Everything up to the specific tones and melodies has been experimented with an evaluated to appeal to the majority of the public. Producers can make anyone with some appeal (whether personality or appearance) a music 'star' with that data.

REAL artists in the music industry these days are few and far between and barely able to make a real living out of it.

I whole heartedly disagree that most musicians these days do not write their own music. I agree this is true of the most successful acts, but they are really an anomaly when comparing to all musicians. Heck i think even Taylor Swift writes her own music, not that I think it is good. Being part of the heavy metal scene for two decades, if you were discovered to be playing someone else's music then you would be laughed off stage. Even outside metal there are plenty of worth while artist, they just tend to be less popular and take a bit of work to find.