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EL Ziggy
10-26-16, 10:27 AM
To error is human right? I must have pushed the envelope a little too far this time. Last night I offered my 450g Bredli a 57g small rat. He had been eating 35-45g rat weaners prior to that. The rat didn't really look too big compared to the girth of the snake but I guess it must have been too much for him to handle because he got it 3/4 of the way down before spitting it back out. My question is should I treat this as a regurge and not feed him for 2-3 weeks or should I consider it a one off and resume his normal feeding schedule in 7-10 days? I'll definitely be feeding him a smaller meal. Lesson learned. :(
Aaron_S
10-26-16, 10:48 AM
To error is human right? I must have pushed the envelope a little too far this time. Last night I offered my 450g Bredli a 57g small rat. He had been eating 35-45g rat weaners prior to that. The rat didn't really look too big compared to the girth of the snake but I guess it must have been too much for him to handle because he got it 3/4 of the way down before spitting it back out. My question is should I treat this as a regurge and not feed him for 2-3 weeks or should I consider it a one off and resume his normal feeding schedule in 7-10 days? I'll definitely be feeding him a smaller meal. Lesson learned. :(
It's a one-off don't worry about it. The snake figured it was too big of a meal and spit it back out. You could feed the snake within a day or two.
Albert Clark
10-26-16, 11:08 AM
EL, both vomiting and regurgitation occur after the prey has been already consumed. If he "spit it out" prior to completely devouring it then that is what it is. Spit out. Vomiting usually occurs shortly ( minutes to hours) after consuming something. Regurgitation, by definition, is the expelling of something eaten days later that is partially digested.
EL Ziggy
10-26-16, 11:23 AM
Copy that gents. Thanks for the clarification. He definitely spit it out and hadn't completely swallowed the prey item. I'll try him again in a week.
dave himself
10-26-16, 11:49 AM
Just to add to this if you didn't make mistakes you wouldn't be human Ziggy mate we all do ;)
Zig...sent you PM...just making sure you got it.
Aaron_S
10-26-16, 01:15 PM
Just to add to this if you didn't make mistakes you wouldn't be human Ziggy mate we all do ;)
Unless you're me :rolleyes:
EL Ziggy
10-26-16, 01:36 PM
@ MDT- My apologies brother. I thought I had replied to you days ago. I just did.
dave himself
10-26-16, 01:39 PM
Unless you're me :rolleyes:
Forgive Aaron I'd forgotten about you mate :D
Minkness
10-26-16, 01:39 PM
Unless you're me :rolleyes:
Right, because you are an alien who makes mostakes. ;)
dannybgoode
10-26-16, 02:37 PM
Are bredli more sensitive to prey size than other Morelia? My IJ will happily take a rat 25-30% of body weight?
Just curious as that doesn't seem a big meal. I guess a snake knows what it's comfortable with though.
Aaron_S
10-26-16, 02:38 PM
Forgive Aaron I'd forgotten about you mate :D
No problem! You're forgiven my good man!
I legit just ordered a coffee mug that says "World's Greatest Everything" on it.
dannybgoode
10-26-16, 02:39 PM
No problem! You're forgiven my good man!
I legit just ordered a coffee mug that says "World's Greatest Everything" on it.
You need to adopt one of my favourite sayings-'correct me of I'm wrong but I don't think I am...'
Aaron_S
10-26-16, 02:40 PM
Are bredli more sensitive to prey size than other Morelia? My IJ will happily take a rat 25-30% of body weight?
Just curious as that doesn't seem a big meal. I guess a snake knows what it's comfortable with though.
I would think it's a snake specific sensitivity. I believe most snakes would take larger prey size like you mention but this snake in particular doesn't feel comfortable with it.
Also possible that while the snake was getting it down it felt vulnerable for whatever reason, or spooked by a person nearby and decided to give up to avoid a "predator".
dannybgoode
10-26-16, 02:43 PM
I would think it's a snake specific sensitivity. I believe most snakes would take larger prey size like you mention but this snake in particular doesn't feel comfortable with it.
Also possible that while the snake was getting it down it felt vulnerable for whatever reason, or spooked by a person nearby and decided to give up to avoid a "predator".
Thanks Aaron-that makes sense and highlights the importance of knowing your individual animals.
EL Ziggy
10-26-16, 02:51 PM
@ Danny- My jungles and coastal will eat larger prey items with no issues. My Bredli seems to be growing at a slower clip than the other carpets and apparently prefers smaller meals for now. I'm inclined to agree with Aaron that it's just this specific critter. I did shine a light on him when I went to check and see if he had finished his meal but it looked like he was still working on it. When I came back a few minutes later he had spit it out. Maybe I did spook him a little.
Aaron_S
10-26-16, 03:01 PM
You need to adopt one of my favourite sayings-'correct me of I'm wrong but I don't think I am...'
Well done sir! My assumption is you don't dare use that with the wife do you?!
dannybgoode
10-26-16, 03:10 PM
Thanks El Z. Yep, I guess that's why averages etc should be used with caution when dealing with reptiles. 90% may behave by the book but then the other 10% like to challenge you. My IJ is all carpet in meal sizes though!
@Aaron-I'm a brave man and push my luck when it comes to the wife! Another one for your repertoire-you're not half as clever as you think I am...
You need to adopt one of my favourite sayings-'correct me of I'm wrong but I don't think I am...'
Or as I've said, once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
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