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Plumbstring
10-06-16, 10:29 PM
So I just recently got my florida king yesterday and wanted to know what morph it may be? Thanks!

Albert Clark
10-07-16, 01:34 AM
Hi, the picture is really not that clear but looking at the patterning and coloration I would venture to say Eastern chain kingsnake. Is that a brownish color or black? If it's black I will go with Eastern chain. If it's brown then the animal may be a chocolate kingsnake. Just my opinion.

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 01:46 AM
I'll try to post some more photos soon from what the guy I bought it from told me he said it was a Florida king he got from a reptile expo sex Unknown

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 03:40 AM
Here we go with the photos of ole cranky at 3am. Sorry if not clear taken from my phone

Minkness
10-07-16, 06:23 AM
Maybe a brooks cross?

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 08:57 AM
Perhaps I am not to familiar with these lil guys but I love it anyways I just wanted to know if anyone else here might know more about these lil guys

Minkness
10-07-16, 09:02 AM
Good luck! I adore my little brooks! Brooks and florida kings are EXTREMELY close both in habitat and personality. Some say they are the same snake but that one is a morph of the other lol.

Yours may be a cross, or may just be a hypo Florida =)

Either way, congrats and good luck!

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 09:14 AM
Thanks yeah I have no name for her. maybe you guys can give me some help? And I'm only guessing with sex he tail seems thin and tapers. I don't know how to probe and I don't do popping and no local herp vets near me. I transplanted from Los Angeles to utah. This is one of those times I miss LA for a local herp vet.

chairman
10-07-16, 10:44 AM
I'd lean towards a cross as well. Eastern and California kings are the best match for pattern, Florida or Brooks for color.

You can usually sex a kingsnake by counting the number of scales between the vent and the tip of the tail. Males have counts over 140. Females under 130. For wiggly snakes, wait until you have a shed skin to look at.

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 11:18 AM
Is that count of scales only for adults? Because this Lil guy or girl is young

Andy_G
10-07-16, 11:20 AM
Looks like a nice brooksi integrade to me. Not a eastern. :)

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 11:39 AM
Tryed looking up brooksi integrade couldn't find anything. Do you have any photos?

Minkness
10-07-16, 12:30 PM
Brooksi integrade could be a brooks king naturally crossed with any other 'local' king types. That means there won't be any particular photo of a specific kind of integrade.

Andy_G
10-07-16, 12:38 PM
Yuppers. I'd guess a true florida kingsnake crossed with a "brooksi" which is the integrade of a florida x eastern. Should've been more specific. Oops. :)

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 02:30 PM
It's ok im enjoying this learning tons here thanks all guys for all the info keep it coming

chairman
10-07-16, 06:12 PM
Is that count of scales only for adults? Because this Lil guy or girl is young

The scale count is for any age snake. Counting the scales on a shed skin might be your best bet.

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 08:45 PM
Great to know! Now I just gotta fatten her up and wait for the blue and then a nice shed

Albert Clark
10-07-16, 09:12 PM
Yeah, it definitely looks like a Florida king. Lampropeltis g. floridana. The lighting is much better to appreciate the pattern and coloration.

Plumbstring
10-07-16, 09:28 PM
Thank you she is a character this one. Open up the top and she has a high prey drive she just watches you.